Derby #182: Fire
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fablefire


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"Foxfire"

Edit: Didn't think I had to explain this because it's very obvious to me, but I'm kind of a lore geek so in case it's not common knowledge...

1) Foxfire (Kitsune-bi) - By rubbing their tails together, a kitsune can make lightning or fire. The kitsune can also, to a small range, breathe out fire. Kitsune can also make small 'fox lanterns', by producing small balls of fire to float around them, and guide their way. This fire can be used as a weapon, or as a toy.

2) Foxfire - the term for the bioluminescence created in the right conditions by a few species of fungi that decay wood.

My thoughts were kitsune playing with foxfire (the burny kind of fire) could be responsible for foxfire (the glowy mushroom kind), and that while they're playing with the burning foxfire they could singe the mushrooms and cause them to glow the way they do. That *is* a fireball coming from the dude on the left. It's just green. :P

For those who missed this in chemistry:

How To Make Green Fire

How to Make Green Fire from Materials Found at Home

bluejester


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fablefire wrote:"Foxfire"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxfire_%28bioluminescence%29


Yeah! A fablefire design! Been wondering where you were at, missed you around these parts. =)

fablefire


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bluejester wrote:Yeah! A fablefire design! Been wondering where you were at, missed you around these parts. =)


Hey, thanks! :D Yeah I just finished college. The last term was bruuuuuuuutal. Big time sucker. Glad to be back. =)

penthus


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This is so so cute! I am a total sucker for foxes. GMV.

bassanimation


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YAAAAAY, Fable is here!! So happy to see you once again. :D This is a super cute entry. I don't know what it is about foxes. Everyone loves them...must be because they're orange :P.

Welcome back, lady!

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TobiasAmaranth


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@Adder - Kitsune-bi, lit. foxfire, is one of the powers of Japanese foxes of myth. Foxfire is also a term FOR the bioluminescence of such fungi, as linked. It's also green. This is a play on words.

In addition, most Inari shrines will have a male and female fox guarding the entrance. So here we have a male and female fox cub playing and exploring their foxfire abilities.

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hashimotoyoshio


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TobiasAmaranth wrote: Kitsune-bi, lit. foxfire, is one of the powers of Japanese foxes of myth. Foxfire is also a term FOR the bioluminescence of such fungi, as linked. It's also green. This is a play on words. Is this somehow too advanced for you? Do you need to go run and cling to your precious marshmallow shirts that have the joke spoonfed to you derby after derby? Jeez.

In addition, most Inari shrines will have a male and female fox guarding the entrance. So here we have a male and female fox cub playing and exploring their foxfire abilities.


You just gave me a great Idea for my D&D game! I've been messing with the hengeyokai from the OA. hmmm.. yessss *strokes beard*

hashimotoyoshio


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hashimotoyoshio wrote:You just gave me a great Idea for my D&D game! I've been messing with the hengeyokai from the OA. hmmm.. yessss *strokes beard*


oh and, nice picture. :P

darel


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Love the lighting!

starlght25


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I was iffy on this shirt until I clicked on the link. GLOWING FUNGUS and FOXES?? sweet. GMV

starlght25


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I just saw your shirt, "revenge" on your site. and thought.."Lol wow.. I've been spending hours on the wii playing the new Zelda and I get the heck away from any chickens in it for this exact reason! I spent too much time getting the crap beat out of me in Ocarina of Time because I accidentally slashed a chicken with my sword." I love your idea!

AdderXYU


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starlght25 wrote:I was iffy on this shirt until I clicked on the link. GLOWING FUNGUS and FOXES?? sweet. GMV


As was noted earlier and then deleted, glowing fungus is not fire. If you think it is, I would love to see you attempt to barbecue.

Given the entirety of this design, there's no reason to believe this is anything but a magical glowing land of foxes. Nothing reads fire.

ThunderThighs


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AdderXYU wrote:As was noted earlier and then deleted, glowing fungus is not fire. If you think it is, I would love to see you attempt to barbecue.

Given the entirety of this design, there's no reason to believe this is anything but a magical glowing land of foxes. Nothing reads fire.

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TobiasAmaranth


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AdderXYU wrote:As was noted earlier and then deleted, glowing fungus is not fire. If you think it is, I would love to see you attempt to barbecue.

Given the entirety of this design, there's no reason to believe this is anything but a magical glowing land of foxes. Nothing reads fire.


TobiasAmaranth wrote:@Adder - Kitsune-bi, lit. foxfire, is one of the powers of Japanese foxes of myth. Foxfire is also a term FOR the bioluminescence of such fungi, as linked. It's also green. This is a play on words.


Is this really so hard to comprehend, Adder? I'll copy it as many times as needed until it somehow clicks. *laughs*

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Spiritgreen


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Wonderful twist on the theme, fablefire. Very original and lovely to look at. ^_^

rivetheart


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i wish there was an "i want 5" vote i could click for this design!! i have so many fox loving friends and i adore them myself! well done gmv!

theinfinityloop


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Attack or no attack, I have to agree that this isn't fire. I think it's fine to stretch the spirit of fire to a certain extent, but this is more about the spirit of kitsune or bioluminescence.


manikx66


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very cute

TobiasAmaranth


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theinfinityloop wrote:Attack or no attack, I have to agree that this isn't fire. I think it's fine to stretch the spirit of fire to a certain extent, but this is more about the spirit of kitsune or bioluminescence.


Not really. (And no, I don't see this as an attack myself.) The derby theme is fire, period. And fire is a concept used in both sides of this design. It is not slap-you-in-the-face-with-a-giant-flame fire, it is a subtle double-reference to a word. They never said 'your shirt must involve a large amount of burning, fire, or a dragon', they said 'the theme is fire', simple as that.

Stretching the theme and using subtleties are not the same thing. I might be quick to jump on that goldfish shirt, but I vaguely recall some mythology or other such history behind goldfish or koi that involves the element of fire, so even though I can't name the reference, I won't question the shirt's relevance. And I don't see why you feel the need to question this one's when it even has fire on it, as much as some of the other shirts on here I've seen. So just sit back, relax, and enjoy the derby. Or use the tattle button and move on.

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AdderXYU


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TobiasAmaranth wrote:Not really. (And no, I don't see this as an attack myself.) The derby theme is fire, period. And fire is a concept used in both sides of this design. It is not slap-you-in-the-face-with-a-giant-flame fire, it is a subtle double-reference to a word. They never said 'your shirt must involve a large amount of burning, fire, or a dragon', they said 'the theme is fire', simple as that.

Stretching the theme and using subtleties are not the same thing. I might be quick to jump on that goldfish shirt, but I vaguely recall some mythology or other such history behind goldfish or koi that involves the element of fire, so even though I can't name the reference, I won't question the shirt's relevance. And I don't see why you feel the need to question this one's when it even has fire on it, as much as some of the other shirts on here I've seen. So just sit back, relax, and enjoy the derby. Or use the tattle button and move on.


There is also mythology linking the salamander to fire. If I just draw a glowing salamander, IT IS NOT ON THEME.

Also, if I show someone caught in crossfire, it's not on theme. Or if I draw a fire truck. Or if I draw someone getting fired. If there is no fire, and there is no fire here, it's not on theme. Fire is not green. Bio-luminescence could be, but fire is not. The foxes don't look like there is fire involved in them. They look like they're playing street fighter, or holding magic orbs. It's a magical element, or a spirit energy element. It is not fire any more than I'm the king of Spain.

TobiasAmaranth


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AdderXYU wrote:There is also mythology linking the salamander to fire. If I just draw a glowing salamander, IT IS NOT ON THEME.

Also, if I show someone caught in crossfire, it's not on theme. Or if I draw a fire truck. Or if I draw someone getting fired. If there is no fire, and there is no fire here, it's not on theme.


Firefly shirt? No fire. 'Fire'fly. Bio-luminescence, fire in the word. Same argument you're bringing up here. Yet no reply by you on that one, weird.
Popcorn shirt? Fire's not important, he's -being- fired.
Match shirt? No fire, makes one think of fire but no fire there.

AdderXYU wrote:Fire is not green. Bio-luminescence could be, but fire is not.
fablefire wrote:For those who missed this in chemistry:

How To Make Green Fire
*Snrk*

AdderXYU wrote:The foxes don't look like there is fire involved in them. They look like they're playing street fighter, or holding magic orbs. It's a magical element, or a spirit energy element. It is not fire any more than I'm the king of Spain.

Pleased to meet you, oh Spanish King. Thankfully I live in the US, and thus am not subjugated to your overzealous and incredibly one-sided rule.

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theinfinityloop


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TobiasAmaranth wrote:Not really. (And no, I don't see this as an attack myself.) The derby theme is fire, period. And fire is a concept used in both sides of this design. It is not slap-you-in-the-face-with-a-giant-flame fire, it is a subtle double-reference to a word. They never said 'your shirt must involve a large amount of burning, fire, or a dragon', they said 'the theme is fire', simple as that.

Stretching the theme and using subtleties are not the same thing. I might be quick to jump on that goldfish shirt, but I vaguely recall some mythology or other such history behind goldfish or koi that involves the element of fire, so even though I can't name the reference, I won't question the shirt's relevance. And I don't see why you feel the need to question this one's when it even has fire on it, as much as some of the other shirts on here I've seen. So just sit back, relax, and enjoy the derby. Or use the tattle button and move on.


Questioning stuff is a good habit to have. I'd like to think these comment threads are for critiquing. Lately they can feel like a means to just kiss up. That makes me enjoy the derbies much less than questioning things.

I hear your arguments and what you're saying about subtlety. I'm just saying in my opinion this is still a stretch.


groverthehyper


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When I first saw the title I thought it was a play on Mozilla Firefox. Now I get it though. plus 1

jxchen


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Tobias is correct in that if this submission is off theme, then so too would be the Firefly submission. It shows no flame and only has the word 'fire' in the title. The entry depicting the lighter and matches bowing also show no fire. This entry at least shows some amount of flame, though it is minimized in comparison to the characters.

If we're going to force artists to think in terms of technicality, perhaps they should create a derby for stereo instructions.

AdderXYU


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jxchen wrote:Tobias is correct in that if this submission is off theme, then so too would be the Firefly submission. It shows no flame and only has the word 'fire' in the title. The entry depicting the lighter and matches bowing also show no fire. This entry at least shows some amount of flame, though it is minimized in comparison to the characters.

If we're going to force artists to think in terms of technicality, perhaps they should create a derby for stereo instructions.


I don't disagree that that should be rejected. This is, again, the FIRE derby. The main difference is that Firefly is a wearable, artistic design. that doesn't make it on theme. As for the lighter/match entries, you could certainly argue they should be rejected too, and if woot did so, there should be no whining. The difference there is that matches and lighters are directly and irrevocably linked to fire. Fireflies are not, and foxes are DEFINITELY NOT. That there is no fire around a match is less of an issue than no fire around a fox. this should be simple logic. But again, woot would be totally in the right to reject those entries, too.

This is a horrible argument. That other work would need to be rejected does not make this design on theme, or make it something that shouldn't be rejected. OBVIOUSLY a derby should reject ALL off theme work. It is simply more important to get rid of that which is off theme and also has no redeeming qualities. This is so much less on topic than the other designs which also would run the risk of rejection, and may indeed deserve to be rejected, that there is no excuse why this piece shouldn't be gone IMMEDIATELY and FIRST. If you're trying to cast a British actor in a film, and there's an Irish guy and an Italian in the wings waiting to audition, neither of them are what you're looking for, but the Italian probably shouldn't have been let in to begin with.

That doesn't limit the designers, either. Fire has lots of applications. You don't see it here because this is woot, but this is a wide-open theme. Artistry could run rampant, were this a site that went for that sort of thing. It is not limiting at all to require real, fiery fire to be present in a fire derby. It's not about forcing people into technicalities. It's about forcing people to follow the rules of the derby, and the theme is the biggest rule of all. If you are the sort of person who sees a theme like this as limiting anyone who stays on theme, you are not cut out for art. Art is about thinking outside the box. Fable has not done so, except insofar as the box said "make a design about fire," and she made a design about glowing.

AdderXYU


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fablefire wrote:

For those who missed this in chemistry:

How To Make Green Fire

How to Make Green Fire from Materials Found at Home


For those who missed this in art:

If it doesn't look like what you say it is, it isn't it to anyone judging it. If you want to make an abstract cubist nonsense painting and call it "mother in the kitchen," fine. If the theme is "kitchens," you can't enter it.

This does not look like fire. It looks like orbs and energy. It looks like one fox about to throw a hadoken, and another with m. bison fists. Besides the incredibly lazy concept (oooooh a kitsune...) it is incredibly lazy representation of fire. Not Everything Bright Is Fire. Fire may be colors other than orangey, but it also must.look.like.fire. This is so blatantly afterthought it's not funny. You wanted to make some glowy kitsune and made any connection to the theme (read: none) the absolute last element.

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AdderXYU wrote:You ever hear of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates? M.orons!


Truly you have a dizzying intellect...



As a side note, Fablefire I'm truly sorry you have to listen this guy the moment you show back up here. I can't speak for everyone, but I am glad to have you back here and say welcome back. And if it helps, just think of Adder as a squat, bald man with lisp who screams "Incontheebable!" at anything he has a problem with.

penthus


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bluejester wrote:Truly you have a dizzying intellect...



As a side note, Fablefire I'm truly sorry you have to listen this guy the moment you show back up here. I can't speak for everyone, but I am glad to have you back here and say welcome back. And if it helps, just think of Adder as a squat, bald man with lisp who screams "Incontheebable!" at anything he has a problem with.


Haaaaa.

I'm fairly new to the community here and I don't usually talk too much, but I have to say that before I ever read any of the comments, I saw the imagery of green fire. I've seen green fire before. Obviously enough people here see the fire in the image and understand the reference that one or two people sitting and complaining loudly shouldn't really matter. If it was really so off topic, the Rejectionator would have gotten it by now.

TobiasAmaranth


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AdderXYU wrote:I don't disagree that that should be rejected. This is, again, the FIRE derby. The main difference is that Firefly is a wearable, artistic design. that doesn't make it on theme.

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This is so much less on topic than the other designs which also would run the risk of rejection, and may indeed deserve to be rejected, that there is no excuse why this piece shouldn't be gone IMMEDIATELY and FIRST.


Adder, dearest... that's called an 'opinion'. We all have them. Just as for me, I find Firefly unwearable while I adore this one.

And saying that this one would have to be rejected first in comparison to all others including Firefly? That's called a 'bias'. There have been more connections to fire stated here than for the other shirt, and this one actually has fire on the design, not just glowies. Yet you say the other shirt has done no wrong, and should not be rejected first under your ever-so-diplomatic Spanish rulership. Instead, the shirt you don't like because it has cute stuff in it must be the one to suffer.

Please, Adder? Stop embarrassing yourself this time around. Learn some consistency, some manners, and maybe a few more words of the English language. I know it's 'close to Spanish', but this isn't Spain, and you need to go work on keeping your people there happy. And hey, at least you get to exploit 'stu.pid American tourists' easily enough. ;)

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LunarKreskents


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Drat, I was going to do this idea but now it's already taken. ;) Looks awesome!

fablefire


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bassanimation wrote:YAAAAAY, Fable is here!! So happy to see you once again. :D This is a super cute entry. I don't know what it is about foxes. Everyone loves them...must be because they're orange :P.

Welcome back, lady!

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Thanks! Nice to be back. Orange is awesome. Other than that I'm not sure what the widespread appeal is. Maybe there's some Jungian connection.

@starlght25 - Thanks! I also fear Hylian chickens. They're mean suckers.

@BlueJester - Yeah it wouldn't be the same though without certain trolls saying things like, "Fire is not green" and whatnot, and then rectifying with "Fire may be colors other than orangey". Would be too easy if all people civilly criticized like theinfinityloop. Even a "your ball of green fire looks like a ball of green sparkly goop to me and you suck at drawing fire" would be short, sweet, and sufficient but that just wouldn't be par for the derby lol... I like your suggestion though. :D

@all other supporters - Thanks much guys. =)

@infinity - Would it have helped if a mushroom was still on fire?

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theinfinityloop wrote:Attack or no attack, I have to agree that this isn't fire. I think it's fine to stretch the spirit of fire to a certain extent, but this is more about the spirit of kitsune or bioluminescence.


Well put, infinity. I second this.

joemail11


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"Give us your best fire depictions, fire aftermath, fire-inspired designs."

This design is clearly fire-inspired, as per the directions. So, while I would prefer your standard don't-play-with-matches sort of fire for this derby, the foxfire is well within the parameters of the theme.

Incedentally, with the number of fox/squee lovers out there, this shirt would sell fairly well if printed.

TobiasAmaranth


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joemail11 wrote:"Give us your best fire depictions, fire aftermath, fire-inspired designs."

This design is clearly fire-inspired, as per the directions. So, while I would prefer your standard don't-play-with-matches sort of fire for this derby, the foxfire is well within the parameters of the theme.

Incedentally, with the number of fox/squee lovers out there, this shirt would sell fairly well if printed.


Ah, a voice of reason from the 'not a fan of this shirt' side. See folks, this is how it's done. I hope you find something in the top three that you enjoy, good sir.

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theinfinityloop wrote:Questioning stuff is a good habit to have. I'd like to think these comment threads are for critiquing. Lately they can feel like a means to just kiss up. That makes me enjoy the derbies much less than questioning things.

I hear your arguments and what you're saying about subtlety. I'm just saying in my opinion this is still a stretch.


Ha, that's funny. I was just recently thinking that comment threads in general were so positive all the time. I'm not a big fan of angry comments, but it seemed like most were critique free.

As for this design, I have no opinion if it is on theme because I think "fire inspired" in the instructions is too problematic.

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AdderXYU wrote: Fire is not green. Bio-luminescence could be, but fire is not.



orly?

Copper oxide begs to differ:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTnVdH7YpVo b


And to keep this on topic - should the foxes not have more than one tail if they are to be the kitsune type?

TobiasAmaranth


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rocketjohn wrote:orly?

Copper oxide begs to differ:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTnVdH7YpVo b


And to keep this on topic - should the foxes not have more than one tail if they are to be the kitsune type?


He already got pwnd over that statement earlier but with boron.

And, kitsune only start with one tail. Foxes or kitsune, these two are young, so I doubt they'd have more than 1 tail in the latter case. :D

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I don't understand why parts of the left fox are green and other parts look like a normal fox. Can someone explain it to me?

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hunterm94 wrote:I don't understand why parts of the left fox are green and other parts look like a normal fox. Can someone explain it to me?


If you read the artist's post you will see the fox are based on a mythical creature that can control fire. So they are pulling the green fire from their fur, concentrating it enough that you can see fire at their paws.

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hunterm94 wrote:I don't understand why parts of the left fox are green and other parts look like a normal fox. Can someone explain it to me?


Yeah, I was wondering about this too... I think that the parts that are "green" are just the "black" fur of the fox and also the shadows. But they just align strangely with the black/green mushrooms in the back. I think the green borders on the foxes are very weird. In all honesty, not only in my eyes this is not really on topic, but also, it doesn't look very good.

~Tico

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tico0001 wrote:Yeah, I was wondering about this too... I think that the parts that are "green" are just the "black" fur of the fox and also the shadows. But they just align strangely with the black/green mushrooms in the back. I think the green borders on the foxes are very weird. In all honesty, not only in my eyes this is not really on topic, but also, it doesn't look very good.

~Tico


Some parts are actually black (paws, ear tips), some parts are a deep shadow (back, parts of the tail), and some parts are just the background. The only 'confusing' part might be the male fox's back where one of the big mushroom's light rays is visible and possibly confusable as the 'green outline' defining his back. But I've seen the drawing with a green outline to that portion and it didn't really look right.

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TobiasAmaranth wrote:Some parts are actually black (paws, ear tips), some parts are a deep shadow (back, parts of the tail), and some parts are just the background. The only 'confusing' part might be the male fox's back where one of the big mushroom's light rays is visible and possibly confusable as the 'green outline' defining his back. But I've seen the drawing with a green outline to that portion and it didn't really look right.


It's light cast from the glowy fire bits that are reflecting off parts of the fur. I actually like that she (Fablefire) paid attention to that sort of detail, since it really adds more light to the light, in that it shines on what is near it.

Since the fire is green, the light it casts is green, not white or red or orange or yellow.

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fablefire wrote:@infinity - Would it have helped if a mushroom was still on fire?


I don't think so. To me, there are three separate things going on instead of it all coming together. There's bioluminescence, foxes, and fire, and theme-wise it's disconnected. I think this is doing well because people like the foxes and people like the green glowy effect--not because it's inspired by fire. Some would say "well, if people like it, what's wrong?" I don't agree with that attitude, but I know I'm in the minority.


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theinfinityloop wrote:Some would say "well, if people like it, what's wrong?" I don't agree with that attitude, but I know I'm in the minority.


Personally, I don't think that's the attitude that people who support the validity of this design to the theme have. I think it's great that people have different opinions, especially when they are respectful about voicing them.

While yes, I admit that I am a sucker for foxes, personally, if I hadn't caught the connection to the theme (I knew about the whole Kitsune/fire mythology thing long before I knew about Woot, and I have personally seen green fire), I wouldn't have voted for it. I don't vote for every fox design just because it has OMGAFOX in it.

I don't speak for everyone. I can only really speak for myself. I vote based on design and if I or my husband would wear it, and I ignore anything that doesn't look on topic. -shrug- Sometimes it's just a matter of opinion. And that's okay. That's why there's the option to vote or not vote.

To me, there is a difference between 'Well if it's liked, it must be alright' and 'Well, it looks on topic to some and off topic to others, but the off topic opinion is in the minority'. My opinion is that if the Rejectionator hasn't bombed it by this point, obviously the people in charge of deciding that agree that it is on topic.

turtlegir1


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This just reminded me of how my 65-year-old mother always says she opened websites on "foxfire"

Gregarich


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Foxfire was the most intelligent and beautiful design in this derby. it would be a crime not to print this shirt.

TobiasAmaranth


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I still want one, heh.

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