Derby #199: Cyberpunk
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ramyb


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L3g3ndQ


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not seeing any cyberpunk in this...

Leahbh


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L3g3ndQ wrote:not seeing any cyberpunk in this...


yeah me neither.

wugsby


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dude. I won't say you don't have talent, but I will encourage you to use it. Every week your designs have about as much variation as Scooby Doo episodes have. Nothing against Scooby Doo, of course, I'm just saying it was always a guy in a mask.

sTyLeS


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L3g3ndQ wrote:not seeing any cyberpunk in this...


It may have some cyber...can't quite tell. But there isn't any punk.

mafafu888


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sTyLeS wrote:It may have some cyber...can't quite tell. But there isn't any punk.

Interesting design, but not sure if I see the cyberpunk in it. Nothing hackerish or postmodern about a possibly homicidal bunny.

mymovinman


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Great Job!!! Want it!

crimsonrambler


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Not gonna lie, the bunnies are wicked cute.

I know I haven't been around shirt.woot long, but is it just me that thinks this looks suspiciously like a combination of the typical cute animals of the poster's usual shirts, and some of the other shirts in this derby? (Specifically: How's My Driving, CyBear Punk! and the drink like All in a Day's Work)

Maybe not, I'm just curious.

qwasdfz


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How do you people not see the cyber punk? It's wearing a scouter (or something that looks like), is covered in high tech futuristic weaponry, and is accessing this all through a computer. Not to mention the fact that, by bullying another rabbit, it is behaving like a punk. Gawsh you people are so nitpicky!

bob12345swn


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Woah. This is bloody awesome. +1

domdeluise


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that rabbit is most definitely punk and thems some high tech weapons. just got a strange urge to watch robocop. >.>

miztickow


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I feel like the shirt would have looked better without the tree silhouettes in the background.
Also, the turrets above the bunny are pointing to the side of the other bunny instead of at him.

mymovinman


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I need me a new Ramyb Shirt this week!

kldakey


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Dude, you are my hero! This is awesome. GMV. Sign me up for 2 please

laggyg


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miztickow wrote:I feel like the shirt would have looked better without the tree silhouettes in the background.
Also, the turrets above the bunny are pointing to the side of the other bunny instead of at him.


I'm with ya on the comment about the trees...I feel it could use a more industrial/grungy-looking backdrop for sure.

However, intentional turret aim is intentional. Notice the bulletholes in the ground around the bunny with his hands up and his carrot down? Yeah, hence the aim not riiiiight at him. It's ok, I forgive your inattention to minor detail =P haha

miztickow


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laggyg wrote:I'm with ya on the comment about the trees...I feel it could use a more industrial/grungy-looking backdrop for sure.

However, intentional turret aim is intentional. Notice the bulletholes in the ground around the bunny with his hands up and his carrot down? Yeah, hence the aim not riiiiight at him. It's ok, I forgive your inattention to minor detail =P haha


Well, I see the minigun barrels smoking, so I believe the shots came from them, but you'd think the turrets would be pointed at the bunny for intimidation if they weren't fired.

IgnatiusRiley


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And here I was hoping, for a brief moment, that at least a cyberpunk-themed derby would be cutesy-free.

I hate this shirt on a molecular level.

laggyg


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miztickow wrote:Well, I see the minigun barrels smoking, so I believe the shots came from them, but you'd think the turrets would be pointed at the bunny for intimidation if they weren't fired.


Hrm...I didn't notice the smoke there before. Now I get to feel like an human for my earlier sarcastic comment. Oh, the irony =P lol

So, umm, maybe the bunny has some out-of-camera-shot friends? I dunno...your guess is as good as mine!

megadog


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i cant take my eyes off the right bunny's paw it looks like a face lol

laggyg


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laggyg wrote:Now I get to feel like an human for my earlier sarcastic comment.


So i di ot is a synonym with "human" and gets autocorrected from the 1st word to the second, huh? Interesting to see what you think about your customers woot. =P haha

collinvh


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I know one thing. People love to hate you Ramyb. I always look forward to your designs.

mafafu888


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Why is the straw pointed away from the robo-bunny?

nemesis7


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how come there is a 'smoking' bullet directly behind the poor rabbit on the right? did he hop away from it lol

nemesis7


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on refection the trajectory of all the shots is wrong unless the guns are extremely low powered

distolin


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nemesis7 wrote:on refection the trajectory of all the shots is wrong unless the guns are extremely low powered


great shirt, love it!

killmak


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nemesis7 wrote:on refection the trajectory of all the shots is wrong unless the guns are extremely low powered


Its a ramyb shirt do you really expect it to conform to the laws of physics?

nemesis7


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killmak wrote:Its a ramyb shirt do you really expect it to conform to the laws of physics?


lol i guess not, I have seen more power from a pea shooter lol

SmartBugger


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nemesis7 wrote:lol i guess not, I have seen more power from a pea shooter lol


WANT WANT WANT

Did I mention I want this?

thegambler311


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mafafu888 wrote:Why is the straw pointed away from the robo-bunny?


Because that's the direction it's facing in All In A Day's Work.

thequietfly


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baha. i was expecting something cute ramyb, but am surprised at how funny this one is. i very much approve and want

jmmbell1987


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IgnatiusRiley wrote:And here I was hoping, for a brief moment, that at least a cyberpunk-themed derby would be cutesy-free.

I hate this shirt on a molecular level.


Cutesy isn't the problem here. Theme is. Cyberpunk is such an atmospheric genre, and this design has none of the qualities that make cyberpunk. Mattcom's entry shows that, at the very least, bunny-themed entries can be on theme. If this is cyberpunk, so was "Winning the Race".

jb2colorado


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how does this shirt end up in the fog for a cyber-punk themed contest? Comparing this "art" to some of the others in this particular derby I'm actually a little upset. It's not RamyB's fault, he's doing his thing and that's fine, I dig his style for certain derbies and not for others, he has more talent than I do. I blame the voters. If this shirt gets printed for a cyber-punk contest, remember, you're the ones that did it.

mysticofshadows


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I have to agree with some of the others here; I'm really not seeing the cyberpunk in this at all.

GNitro


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Let's see if woot shows their double standard again when it comes to Ramy. This is obviously not cyberpunk, and more of a futuristic military concept.

They rejected Walmazan's initial sub, now it is time for them to hold the same standard to this design. It is in no way cyberpunk.

mafafu888


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thegambler311 wrote:Because that's the direction it's facing in All In A Day's Work.


Well played.

mangobajito


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Very cool illustration!



Pjakks


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It's a shame people gotta hate every single shirt you make. I usually don't love your designs because I don't care to wear the cartoon/comic style shirts, but I really like this.

Haters gonna hate...

Oxyminoan


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How is this on topic?

Technology and large guns isn't the same thing as Cyberpunk. Can't believe this hasn't been rejected yet.

rowanofrin


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Seeing this design in a cyberpunk derby makes my blood boil. For shame Ramy, for shame.

joemail11


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The problem with the derby theme is it forces a "threshold" of cyberpunk. This design contains a couple elements of cyberpunk, but is lacking in the general atmosphere. For some people, this is enough to keep it on topic. For others, there is not enough and to them merits rejection. It's really up to the rejectionator, so arguing your threshold of cyberpunk really gets us nowhere.

Though it is irritating to see "theme dress-up" on a consistent basis from ramyb. But can you really blame him? A. They sell. B. His other designs are met with as much hate as his fluffy animal ones.

That's all for now. TL;DR: if it's not rejected, it's on theme (for this derby).

SJulian1


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As soon as I saw this design, THIS came to mind:
http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=37662

Honestly, I'm surprised no one has pointed it out so far.

Johndis5


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Throwing a computer and a gun on a white bunny is not cyberpunk.

Overkill indeed.

loveengrey


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You guys are obviously not seeing what Ramy did here. He took the word "cyberpunk", split it into "cyber" and "punk", and based his design off that. Cyber means add a bunch of technology to the rabbit, and Punk means to turn him into a bully. It's either the most literal definition of the word cyberpunk or confusion in its purest form.

juliaL719


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On- or off-topic aside, I don't understand this.

Why is the bunny shooting at the other bunny?

Substitute anything cutesypoo here, and it would make as much/as little sense.

Minus animals and swirly, glowy side-placement things, what's left?

AdderXYU


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SJulian1 wrote:As soon as I saw this design, THIS came to mind:
http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=37662

Honestly, I'm surprised no one has pointed it out so far.


I'm pretty sure people have. I've seen one or two in the comment thread, and outside of that...

This shouldn't exist because it already existed. Adding a rabbit in place of the turtle just makes it make even less sense than the original one did.

YinofYang


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loveengrey wrote:You guys are obviously not seeing what Ramy did here. He took the word "cyberpunk", split it into "cyber" and "punk", and based his design off that. Cyber means add a bunch of technology to the rabbit, and Punk means to turn him into a bully. It's either the most literal definition of the word cyberpunk or confusion in its purest form.


What Cyberpunk is

kender42


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L3g3ndQ wrote:not seeing any cyberpunk in this...


dood! there is a computer screen!

Dexter92283


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IgnatiusRiley wrote:And here I was hoping, for a brief moment, that at least a cyberpunk-themed derby would be cutesy-free.

I hate this shirt on a molecular level.


I totally agree with you.

Nessanagirl


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I was super excited to see some awesome designs, because how can you NOT with a cyberpunk theme? and then I was like "Oh look....Ramyb did a bunny...again." His designs are becoming less creative and more 'which animal should I use this time', and frankly I've become tired of them.

j5


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Since my "math symbol" critiques keep getting deleted, I'll reiterate with words.
I feel this piece is derivative of the artist's prior work and is, at best, tangentially on-topic. dy/dx

move along

MaryESP


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Haven't really been on here for a few months...looks like I didn't miss anything.

Look! Something cute is doing something evil! It's so priceless!

Dear Woot: Priceless won't coax me back. See you.

smklung


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Why do you find any excuse to use a cute woodland animal in something?
Also this design has nothing to do with cyber hacking, please make more topic relevant designs

omninull


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One more gargleblaster, please stop this. This has nothing to do with cyberpunk. Cyberpunk is a world of advanced technology and a breakdown of social standards. It is gritty, raw, often dark, and not at all this.

itsmisty


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Just because this artist's designs have proven to sell should not mean that this design's failure to adhere to being in theme should go without notice and without action.

"Cyberpunk" does not mean to separate the two words 'cyber' and 'punk', albeit as clever as it might be to try and submit it simply is not adhering to this theme. I think the wikipedia link to the meaning of "Cyberpunk" needs reiterating and a serious read-through.

As for the similarities to "Winning The Race"? Could also cause this to fall under 'already been done' or 'too similar to a past winning entry', in mild agreement with that.



moviegeek73


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I am so glad I own most of your shirts!

kschlege


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Other bunny needs to be a zombie.

petitefilou


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Ignoring everything else, I can't believe people are trying to claim that bulling somehow equals punk! C'mon, what kind of logic is that? That's not what punk is!

A tshirt with a big kid hitting a little one wouldn't somehow represent "punk". Therefore neither does this, not even slightly.

I can't be bothered to argue about everything else that is wrong with this being in the fog in a cyberpunk derby.

Xynth


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I have looked at this image a few times, and I still really don't see how it represents the cyberpunk genre. I could go on with my opinions on why I feel that, but there's other people here who have already stated what I feel much better. Lack of atmosphere, being cutesy in a genre based on grunge, and a backdrop that screams, "This is not the Utopian future I wanted!"

I see an issue by taking this as the two words "cyber" and "punk" though. The description of the derby itself implies that they were expecting shirts that are based on the cyberpunk theme over clever wordplay. The bunny on the left does have the idea of cyber down, but I see a distinct lack of punk subculture. If it was punk, then the bunny on the left would be fighting back for it's right for the carrot. On the other hand it could be taken as the left bunny being a very right-wing punk, but I don't think it was Ramy's intention to draw a neo-fascist bunny.

He could redo the shirt, making it more cyberpunk themed. Someone beat him to it though, and also had it submitted before Ramy's even.

noiise


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I love it

mymovinman


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Cyberpunk or not,...I'd wear it!

maverik1390


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SJulian1 wrote:As soon as I saw this design, THIS came to mind:
http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=37662

Honestly, I'm surprised no one has pointed it out so far.


Well the only similarities are the same green shirt color, the same exact bunny, and the same smoking machine gun...

arroth


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i would point out that it is clearly off topic as many people have already, but this being RamyB i very much doubt anything will be done about it. it will end up printing, selling out cause no-one knows what cyberpunk means and life will go on

BrainFreeze


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Ya we all know cute bunnies are cute and sell well but calling this cyberpunk is insulting. It's gone from the point of being kitsch to meme and needs to stop.

ToasterP


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I Don't see the theme in this at all, guess we'll see if it stays around.

I've heard that someone famous said something like: "The wooters get the derby shirts they deserve" but who knows what that means.

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tiar


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ToasterP wrote:I Don't see the theme in this at all, guess we'll see if it stays around.

I agree, this isn't remotely reading as cyberpunk. Sad thing is, a little more effort and it could be. Add some glowy tattoos, a funky colored mohawk and a handful of random piercings and it would be on topic.

BrainFreeze


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tiar wrote:I agree, this isn't remotely reading as cyberpunk. Sad thing is, a little more effort and it could be. Add some glowy tattoos, a funky colored mohawk and a handful of random piercings and it would be on topic.


Honestly that wouldn't even do it. The punk part of cyberpunk has virtual nothing to do with the punk movement of the 80s. Tattoos and mohawks does not a cyberpunk make.

Cyberpunk is about high tech fringe. A kid in his basement can be just as much a cyber punk as some guy with a laptop and a mohawk. Cute bunnies will NEVER be cyberpunk.

ToasterP


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BrainFreeze wrote:Honestly that wouldn't even do it. The punk part of cyberpunk has virtual nothing to do with the punk movement of the 80s. Tattoos and mohawks does not a cyberpunk make.

Cyberpunk is about high tech fringe. A kid in his basement can be just as much a cyber punk as some guy with a laptop and a mohawk. Cute bunnies will NEVER be cyberpunk.


I would concur with this delineation between punk that is cyber and cyberpunk. That being said many representations of cyberpunk have used the themes/motifs of punk culture as a base for character construction(see Ice-T's character J-bone in the movie version of Johhny Mnemonic).

...

On the level of contributive questions: Does anyone else think that the lighter shirt color/ lack of typical dystopian background elements,much like Robert's Sunset(I am not attempting to compare the shirts on any other front than shirt color and backdrop choice) might play a role in why some are not able to see the theme? Because I think if this was on asphalt with a with an implied decayed city skyline there would be more people willing to make the leap with the piece as a whole.
just my 0.02



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BrainFreeze


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J-Bone and Spyder (oddly enough played by Black Flag front man Henry Rollins) are two great examples of cyber punks. They are junkers looking through trash and parts to make tech that they can use. They are taking the left overs of society and living in the shadows. The "punk" parts come from their anarchist views of society and not from how they dress or what they look like.

ToasterP hit it right on when he mentioned dystopian. This shirt is lacking any form of the cyberpunk theme. Hell the bunny has a late from Starbucks. This is more cyberyuppie then cyberpunk.

chennai8


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ToasterP wrote:
I've heard that someone famous said something like: "The wooters get the derby shirts they deserve" but who knows what that means.


I think Woot said it in their own way in the artist bio here,
http://shirt.woot.com/friends.aspx?k=18572

neyfam2000 wrote:Woot!--going from "Deal-a-day" to "Site-a-day"

Nightshooter


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the holes on the ground are from a previous shot, as this is cyber, he is using the computer and it is still a little off. He is programing the guns or calibrating them...

thesaint08d


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I love this as I have everything of Ramy's Ive seen will sooo buy this.
And I will the Last penguin one that was MISTAKENLY not a finalist in the last derby.

I want this shirt

chumpmagic


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I have tried to remain quiet, but I am a bit frustrated and confused. This to me is obvious playing off the word cyberpunk and not the cyberpunk genre itself or the derby description. It is a literal interpretation. When I did literal interpretation of an oddball for the oddball derby I got this: "Rejected because: Good literal translation of the derby title, but not what we're going for - see the derby description." Am I missing something? What is the difference here?


bluetuba


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chumpmagic wrote:I have tried to remain quiet, but I am a bit frustrated and confused. This to me is obvious playing off the word cyberpunk and not the cyberpunk genre itself or the derby description. It is a literal interpretation. When I did literal interpretation of an oddball for the oddball derby I got this: "Rejected because: Good literal translation of the derby title, but not what we're going for - see the derby description." Am I missing something? What is the difference here?


Sadly I think this week is a case of soooo many people being off theme that Woot just would rather let them all slide instead of rejecting half the entries in the derby.

So we'll end up with a "Cyberpunk" derby won by a mecha-bunny, a tree, and a tron shirt.. lol Ramy is rarely on theme anyway, and he isn't usually rejected for it either, so in the end it probably doesn't matter much.

"You can't just dress a Minion like Spock, and add a caption that says "Logical Me". There's a prison for people like that. Below my house."

ramyb


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chumpmagic wrote:I have tried to remain quiet, but I am a bit frustrated and confused. This to me is obvious playing off the word cyberpunk and not the cyberpunk genre itself or the derby description. It is a literal interpretation. When I did literal interpretation of an oddball for the oddball derby I got this: "Rejected because: Good literal translation of the derby title, but not what we're going for - see the derby description." Am I missing something? What is the difference here?


PMed you

cdrewlow


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thesaint08d wrote:I love this as I have everything of Ramy's Ive seen will sooo buy this.
And I will the Last penguin one that was MISTAKENLY not a finalist in the last derby.

I want this shirt


I'm very interested to know why you think this is on theme but walmazan's salsa shirt "has absolutely nothing to do with cyberpunk in any way shape or form."

chumpmagic


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chumpmagic wrote:I have tried to remain quiet, but I am a bit frustrated and confused. This to me is obvious playing off the word cyberpunk and not the cyberpunk genre itself or the derby description. It is a literal interpretation. When I did literal interpretation of an oddball for the oddball derby I got this: "Rejected because: Good literal translation of the derby title, but not what we're going for - see the derby description." Am I missing something? What is the difference here?


Okay. My bad. I guess somewhere in the prethread Tgentry stated it had to be at least 3 characters for the oddball derby. Good to know literal interpretations of the theme are still open. I ruled out since that rejection.


tammer12


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I have to agree on the "no cyberpunk". It's a really cute design and I'd love to see it in another rodeo.

thinkdeep42


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I just noticed the smoking holes to the sides of the "primative" bunny...

HAHAHAHA!

Ah, that cracked me up! Great job! XD Definitely a +1 from me!

"I swallowed a *bug*."

"I am mad, north-northwest. When the wind is southerly, I know a hawk from a handsaw..."

killmak


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It would be nice if Woot came forward and explained how some of these enteries meet the theme. Really what is the point of having a theme if nobody is expected to follow the theme? I would like to know how this and a few other shirts in the derby can be considered cyberpunk. I feel bad for the artists that take the time to think up a design that fits well with the theme only to lose out to designs that are completely off topic.

thegambler311


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maverik1390 wrote:Try again...
http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=52764


I think you missed my joke. The straw's pointing to the right in both designs, regardless of how much sense it makes in Kevlar's versus how little sense it makes here.

KIDA26


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killmak wrote:It would be nice if Woot came forward and explained how some of these enteries meet the theme. Really what is the point of having a theme if nobody is expected to follow the theme? I would like to know how this and a few other shirts in the derby can be considered cyberpunk. I feel bad for the artists that take the time to think up a design that fits well with the theme only to lose out to designs that are completely off topic.


Even some of the good designs (like SUNSET by RGLEE) don't seem to be on topic. It seems like some folks think that "cyber punk" = "robot" or "computer". just cause there is a robot in the design doesn't make it cyber punk.

"Cyberpunk is a postmodern and science fiction genre noted for its focus on "high tech and low life." There is plenty of "cyber" in this derby, but only a few designs seem to add in the "punk" aspect. Rejectionator should be plenty busy yet he remains idle...

killmak


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KIDA26 wrote:Even some of the good designs (like SUNSET by RGLEE) don't seem to be on topic. It seems like some folks think that "cyber punk" = "robot" or "computer". just cause there is a robot in the design doesn't make it cyber punk.

"Cyberpunk is a postmodern and science fiction genre noted for its focus on "high tech and low life." There is plenty of "cyber" in this derby, but only a few designs seem to add in the "punk" aspect. Rejectionator should be plenty busy yet he remains idle...


I completely agree. Ramyb is not the only one guilty of being extremely off topic this week. More people complain about him though as he is almost always off topic.

L3g3ndQ


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why hasn't this or most of the other fogged and not fogged shirts been rejected????

geez woot! your making it seam like the derbies don't really have rules as long as you are a popular designer! get that big red rubber ejector stamp out and use it!!!

AdderXYU


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KIDA26 wrote:Even some of the good designs (like SUNSET by RGLEE) don't seem to be on topic. It seems like some folks think that "cyber punk" = "robot" or "computer". just cause there is a robot in the design doesn't make it cyber punk.

"Cyberpunk is a postmodern and science fiction genre noted for its focus on "high tech and low life." There is plenty of "cyber" in this derby, but only a few designs seem to add in the "punk" aspect. Rejectionator should be plenty busy yet he remains idle...


The difference is that robbie explained quite well how his fits, while this is basically a rehash of another tee ramy's other half created even if it WAS cyberpunk. There are other tees in the fog that don't fit (The gimmicky cybirdpunk evangelist being prime suspect #2), but nothing is more off topic than this one, and nothing is more generic and "similar shirts exist"y in the fog right now than this.

If you have a problem, you rectify the underlying cause. If you have a number of things to take care of, you get to the most important issue first. If you need to vacuum, paint the garage, and do laundry, you do laundry, because you need clothes tomorrow. If your roommate or wife or friends or whatever complain that you're not doing the other things too, they have missed the entire point of priorities and what it means to be important. Ramy's piece doesn't have a shred of similarity to the theme, and is completely a less-conceptual rehash of an earlier piece (one inextricably linked to him, in the same style). Other pieces have a shred of that theme. If woot feels they are off theme, they should axe those pieces too. But Ramy's is undeniable. there is no honorable excuse for keeping it in til the end. It is the least on theme, and the most similar to other designs. Woot may decide to axe a bunch of stuff. That is their choice. This isn't about deciding. It's about what is right. It is the biggest offender on multiple levels, and it shouldn't print.

eastcobbler


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Re: Overkill


Who votes for this stuff?

Johndis5


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eastcobbler wrote:Who votes for this stuff?


The same people that buy buy their graphic Tees at walmart.

DaftMuffin


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Really? This is pretty sad. I'll be seriously disappointed if this prints instead of a worthy shirt.

purplevanilla


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Oh I have to have this! It'll complete my collection of eerily identical 'rabbits killing each other' shirts

AdderXYU


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DaftMuffin wrote:Really? This is pretty sad. I'll be seriously disappointed if this prints instead of a worthy shirt.


Better prepare yourself. If they haven't rejected it yet, it means they either know it won't print and are lazy, or know it will print and want the money more than the integrity.

mafafu888


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AdderXYU wrote:Better prepare yourself. If they haven't rejected it yet, it means they either know it won't print and are lazy, or know it will print and want the money more than the integrity.

Ding ding ding

microwave_safe


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The fiancee and I both own a couple of Ramy's shirts. They were from derby's where cute isn't so bad. But this shirt... makes me want to punch a kitten in rage. It just completely and utterly misses the point of cyberpunk. And just feels like a cheap cop out both artistically and stylistically. By this metric you slap a targeting reticle and a gun on something and bam... cyberpunk. If Bladerunner or Neuromancer was in the same style as this, we wouldn't even be having this derby cause no one would ever have cared except to mock it.

emccall3


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killmak wrote:I completely agree. Ramyb is not the only one guilty of being extremely off topic this week. More people complain about him though as he is almost always off topic.


That seems to be the gist of things around here. You have a derby theme and then Ramyb as a separate entity. He gets special privileges because his shirts make a lot of money for woot; mostly due to his following of brainwashed, cutsey-loving fan-boys who wouldn't know an on-theme shirt if it came up and bit 'em. Though I'm not saying he's the only one off theme, especially this week.

That being said, I actually have a couple Ramyb shirts and I believe that he is a good artist and can do tremendous work. It's just unfortunate that both him and woot feel the need to pacify the sheep to an extent of ruining what could be really good derbies. But hey, money makes the world go 'round, right?

311eons


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I never comment on these things usually, but I couldn't help it this time. The people that claim "I want one!!!" kinda make me sick. Don't you already have 20 more in the closet that look just like this one?? It's just sad, really. There are many more worthy shirts out there that should print. Woot needs to fix their biased rejectionator...

KIDA26


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311eons wrote:I never comment on these things usually, but I couldn't help it this time. The people that claim "I want one!!!" kinda make me sick. Don't you already have 20 more in the closet that look just like this one?? It's just sad, really. There are many more worthy shirts out there that should print. Woot needs to fix their biased rejectionator...


This is why I haven't bought a shirt in quite awhile... and even that shirt was purchased for my wife, not for me.

coyotestorm


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This shirt is why I am leaving Woot. I want ONE derby without cutesey stuff in it, and I thought cyberpunk could be the one. Woot, why wont you do awesome/nerdy shirts anymore? I am tired of the same boring bunnies/penguins. Do SOMETHING creative! There are so many great shirts that get submitted, and shirts like this win out over them without even being on topic.

It was fun while it lasted. I will give it a few months, maybe something will be good at that point.

KIDA26


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coyotestorm wrote:This shirt is why I am leaving Woot. I want ONE derby without cutesey stuff in it, and I thought cyberpunk could be the one. Woot, why wont you do awesome/nerdy shirts anymore? I am tired of the same boring bunnies/penguins. Do SOMETHING creative! There are so many great shirts that get submitted, and shirts like this win out over them without even being on topic.

It was fun while it lasted. I will give it a few months, maybe something will be good at that point.


I 'gave it a few months' 6 months ago... I still check hoping that one day another shirt I want will print. In the meantime I have been buying shirts more often from 'the other' daily shirt sites.

bkearney09


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F-U Ramyb Fanboys/girls! This is the most sloppy, contrived piece of work I have seen from Ramy to date, and yet it still manages to make it into the fog. I don't get it...

Ramyb's design process: cute animal+generic forest backdrop+minimal relation to theme+sloppy illustration=$$$$$$

I really don't get it.

j5


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bkearney09 wrote:
Ramyb's design process: cute animal+generic forest backdrop+minimal relation to theme+sloppy illustration + Rabid Fanbase (tm) =$$$$$$

I really don't get it.


You almost got it, I fixed it for you.

move along

palookaboy


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The shirt's title is ironically appropriate.

It's insulting how not thematic this is in a cyberpunk derby. Slapping heavy machinery on anything does not make it cyberpunk. Would it be clockpunk to have a bunny wearing a watch? Of course not. Yet somehow this shirt persists.

blinddog3d


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Ramyb's design process: cute animal+generic forest backdrop+minimal relation to theme+sloppy illustration + Rabbit Fanbase (tm) =$$$$$$


postid="4485656" user="j5"]You almost got it, I fixed it for you.[/quote]

No, I fixed it for you!

avidan111


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my god people! be quiet already! so what if its not exactly living up to your standards. grow up and get over it. all of you complaining so much about it not being the exact definition of "cyberpunk" is annoying. so what if its a cute design? don't like them? get off the site and stop spamming your rejection. heres an idea. Appreciate it for WHAT IT IS. appreciate the art, the irony. you may feel more happy then criticizing someones hard word. i like the design. while I'm a die hard fan of the cyberpunk genre, i like this design. Don't like it? then be quiet already and be excited for the other two that are going to picked. god.

"Don't believe in the you who believes in me. Don't believe in the me who believes in you. Believe in the you who believes in yourself."

mrwednesday


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avidan111 wrote:my god people! be quiet already! so what if its not exactly living up to your standards. grow up and get over it. all of you complaining so much about it not being the exact definition of "cyberpunk" is annoying. so what if its a cute design? don't like them? get off the site and stop spamming your rejection. heres an idea. Appreciate it for WHAT IT IS. appreciate the art, the irony. you may feel more happy then criticizing someones hard word. i like the design. while I'm a die hard fan of the cyberpunk genre, i like this design. Don't like it? then be quiet already and be excited for the other two that are going to picked. god.


Complaining about complaining is always worse than the original complaints because it's rife with hypocrisy.

lochnessa


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What is this I don't even.

foxbite


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Spider Jerusalem reincarnated as a rabbit?

lochnessa


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avidan111 wrote:my god people! be quiet already! so what if its not exactly living up to your standards. grow up and get over it. all of you complaining so much about it not being the exact definition of "cyberpunk" is annoying. so what if its a cute design? don't like them? get off the site and stop spamming your rejection. heres an idea. Appreciate it for WHAT IT IS. appreciate the art, the irony. you may feel more happy then criticizing someones hard word. i like the design. while I'm a die hard fan of the cyberpunk genre, i like this design. Don't like it? then be quiet already and be excited for the other two that are going to picked. god.


There is nothing about this shirt I appreciate. WHAT IT IS? The art? The irony? No, no, and what?

bptillman


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ramyb wrote:Saved


Please.stop.

The same designs and characters are just getting recycled more and more since you keep submitting more and more

So many other shirts in this derby are so much better, yet because of your name and who you have become on here, yours will probably get the vote

partimejudas


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Johndis5 wrote:The same people that buy buy their graphic Tees at walmart.


No wonder WalMart has one of the strongest market positions in the world.

Now 100% chock full of little wind-up robots!

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