Derby #209: Fairy Tales
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Missed Curfew

Missed Curfew
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taternuggets


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6 colors on asphalt.

Thanks to Teripie for the idea this week!


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moosepod


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Hahaha

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vwclogan


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good idea, but not vote worthy, you could of spent more time finishing the lines at least.

travisk02


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+1... GMV


"Expect to get shot down often and hard." -- teh Great TT

taternuggets


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vwclogan wrote:good idea, but not vote worthy, you could of spent more time finishing the lines at least.


Dad? Is that you?


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gement


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It's a fun idea. The way it's executed here (a woman in distress showing only shapely naked legs) hits my exploitation nerves a bit.

taternuggets


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gement wrote:It's a fun idea. The way it's executed here (a woman in distress showing only shapely naked legs) hits my exploitation nerves a bit.


I assure you, that would not be my intention with this. The legs are naked as she is wearing a gown in there and it is bunched up in the pumpkin.

I do thank you for looking though.


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j5


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taternuggets wrote:I assure you, that would not be my intention with this. The legs are naked as she is wearing a gown in there and it is bunched up in the pumpkin.

I do thank you for looking though.


The arm is in an impossible position.

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taternuggets


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j5 wrote:The arm is in an impossible position.


You have no idea how dislocated that shoulder is from the rapid compression of that pumpkin.

sigh....


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Jeus


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j5 wrote:The arm is in an impossible position.


you cant put your hand above your head? Not sure I get your complaint...

Nice job nuggets +1

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j5


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Jeus wrote:you cant put your hand above your head? Not sure I get your complaint...

Nice job nuggets +1


Try to draw a visual line from where her legs are to where her arm comes out at a 90° angle to the pumpkin. Now think where her head would be.

(sorry, the engineer in me is peaking through)

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travisk02


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j5 wrote:Try to draw a visual line from where her legs are to where her arm comes out at a 90° angle to the pumpkin. Now think where her head would be.

(sorry, the engineer in me is peaking through)


I see it as her head is being bent forward and its like she's reaching for the top of the pumpkin which is against the back of her head... nobody ever said being squished in a pumpkin was comfy.

*EDIT: and yes I actually tried it like I was the one that was stuck... got some weird looks from co-workers. :/


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j5


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travisk02 wrote:*EDIT: and yes I actually tried it like I was the one that was stuck... got some weird looks from co-workers. :/

This right here wins it.

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blinddog3d


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Jeus wrote:you cant put your hand above your head? Not sure I get your complaint...

Nice job nuggets +1


Johnny5 just likes to complain, and he's good at it (and usually right). He has a good eye, and I see what he means, the shoulder would be a tad higher, unless pumkin compression has bent her over, and then it's still the wrong angle.
BlindDog3D

taternuggets


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travisk02 wrote:*EDIT: and yes I actually tried it like I was the one that was stuck... got some weird looks from co-workers. :/


Ha! I appreciate your efforts here. hyuk...


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shikausstan


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j5 wrote:The arm is in an impossible position.


After drawing it out I would say it hurts REALLY BAD!



I still love it though!

alexanderjd


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Love the concept, but I've gotta agree, the execution needs a bit of work.

r0ksana


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The mice would have to be super teeny tiny : O

Josephus


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shikausstan wrote:After drawing it out I would say it hurts REALLY BAD!



I still love it though!


I think it's great! As it has a real cartoony style, I don't see the need to PWNY, er, complain that it doesn't look realistic. Most cartoon characters have had at least one and often two fingers on each hand snipped off; none of y'all are bothered by that! I checked*, and not a single complaint about how the chikkins last week had unnaturally long necks and nugget-shaped bodies.

It's a woman crammed inside a giant pumpkin, for pete's sake. She's almost certainly dead, with lungs jammed full of pumpkin seeds, and no oxygen in her blood.



*I didn't really check.

reabraham


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Great shirt!! I am expecting to buy this one!!

j5


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Josephus wrote:As it has a real cartoony style, I don't see the need to PWNY, er, complain that it doesn't look realistic.

The problem is not realism, the problem is that it triggers the "something's not quite right here" notion in the brain, which rejects the image.

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zerobriant


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i find it to be really funny :D

taternuggets


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Josephus wrote:It's a woman crammed inside a giant pumpkin, for pete's sake. She's almost certainly dead, with lungs jammed full of pumpkin seeds, and no oxygen in her blood.


This gave me a pretty good laugh... thanks for your continued support Josephus.


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taternuggets


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j5 wrote:...the problem is that it triggers the "something's not quite right here" notion in the brain....


You gotta just drink your way through that or something...

;)


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illeander


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Wow that is truly unfortunate. Great idea. Its the funniest thing I've seen today.


shirtsarecool


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I would totally wear this.

Lagbert


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I saw the preview pick and started laughing as soon as I read the title! Unfortunately, I think the joke doesn't quite work without the context of the title. Thanks for the laugh GMV

Teripie


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j5 wrote:The problem is not realism, the problem is that it triggers the "something's not quite right here" notion in the brain, which rejects the image.


Well, duh. There's a woman crammed in a pumpkin. Or, at the least, there's a pumpkin with legs and a broken arm.

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paigeg


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At the end of the day, this is one of the funniest concepts subbed. I'll agree the execution could use some work, and I know, being Queen of Messy Lines. Still think it'd get a good chuckle if I wore it...

taternuggets


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paigeg wrote:At the end of the day, this is one of the funniest concepts subbed. I'll agree the execution could use some work, and I know, being Queen of Messy Lines. Still think it'd get a good chuckle if I wore it...


Thanks! Those messy lines will be the death of me... as I will tell myself each week, "make nice lines, all the good artists out there are making nice lines.... how hard could it be... just make them nice and neat.... "

Well, it turns out it's pretty damned hard.

I appreciate all the comments on this one.


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garaux


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I think this design propagates an agenda of violence against pumpkins, mice and fairy tales. GMV.

sanctoclaro


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Good idea, but it just seems very rushed to me. Of course, I guess you have to balance speed with quality - I didn't, which is one reason I won't have a finished design to submit for this derby.

taternuggets


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sanctoclaro wrote:Good idea, but it just seems very rushed to me. Of course, I guess you have to balance speed with quality - I didn't, which is one reason I won't have a finished design to submit for this derby.


You hit the nail on the head. That 24 hour turn around is a killer for new artists. With the importance of submitting on time, often my entries are "Well, this is as good as I can do in the time allowed."

I really need to slow down a little.... but it really sucks to miss out on the Noon Friday Voting Frenzy.


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amreli


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taternuggets wrote:Thanks! Those messy lines will be the death of me... as I will tell myself each week, "make nice lines, all the good artists out there are making nice lines.... how hard could it be... just make them nice and neat.... "

Well, it turns out it's pretty damned hard.

I appreciate all the comments on this one.


I really like the concept, but yeah, execution is killer. The absolutely most useful tutorial I ever found was omnitarian's on inking/linework in Inkscape (free version of Illustrator). The quality of my work changed so much after that, for example compare May the Force Be With You to The Grammarian. Not that I don't still have a long way to improve, but yeah. As for the time constraints, I have plenty of weeks I just can't get anything in (like this week), but partially because I've stopped submitting entries I didn't feel were finished enough. And even my most recent entry (from 2 derbies ago, ugh) was really late which certainly hurt it, it was a Sunday night/Monday morning entry and managed to get to 16th...who knows what would have happened if I could have finished it even Saturday.

Ok, enough of an essay all about amreli's work...my point is, linework in Inkscape! I still do most of my coloring in Photoshop (well, Photoshop Elements, which means sometimes I have to do halftones in GIMP) because it's easier and, I think, comes out better. Also, not sure what equipment you're using, but something like a Bamboo tablet actually makes a big difference, too. Oh, and if you haven't, read through all the links in tgentry's signature.


taternuggets


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amreli wrote:I really like the concept, but yeah, execution is killer. The absolutely most useful tutorial I ever found was omnitarian's on inking/linework in Inkscape (free version of Illustrator). The quality of my work changed so much after that, for example compare May the Force Be With You to The Grammarian. Not that I don't still have a long way to improve, but yeah. As for the time constraints, I have plenty of weeks I just can't get anything in (like this week), but partially because I've stopped submitting entries I didn't feel were finished enough. And even my most recent entry (from 2 derbies ago, ugh) was really late which certainly hurt it, it was a Sunday night/Monday morning entry and managed to get to 16th...who knows what would have happened if I could have finished it even Saturday.

Ok, enough of an essay all about amreli's work...my point is, linework in Inkscape! I still do most of my coloring in Photoshop (well, Photoshop Elements, which means sometimes I have to do halftones in GIMP) because it's easier and, I think, comes out better. Also, not sure what equipment you're using, but something like a Bamboo tablet actually makes a big difference, too. Oh, and if you haven't, read through all the links in tgentry's signature.


Thanks for taking the time to do this. I will definitely be checking out the tutorials you've listed here.

I have an Intuos 4 tablet and use photoshop. When I've tried to use illustrator for linework I've found it rather daunting... especially working with bezier handles and whatnot... strokes and fills and don't even get me started on trying to erase part of a line.... it was horrible. Does inkscape have a similar learning curve?


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amreli


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taternuggets wrote:Thanks for taking the time to do this. I will definitely be checking out the tutorials you've listed here.

I have an Intuos 4 tablet and use photoshop. When I've tried to use illustrator for linework I've found it rather daunting... especially working with bezier handles and whatnot... strokes and fills and don't even get me started on trying to erase part of a line.... it was horrible. Does inkscape have a similar learning curve?


Jealous of your Intuos. I think Illustrator has more options, but I can't afford it which is why I use Inkscape. The learning curve is probably somewhat similar, though maybe easier in Inkscape if there are fewer options? I found it daunting at first as well, but the bezier handles are actually awesome for tweaking lines. You can't erase part of a line like you would in Photoshop (or on paper), but you can move the nodes to shorten, or you can break them apart and/or delete a section between two nodes. One piece of advice that helped was from bassanimation in this thread which is to think of vector work like working with construction paper, instead of like drawing.


taternuggets


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amreli wrote:Jealous of your Intuos. I think Illustrator has more options, but I can't afford it which is why I use Inkscape. The learning curve is probably somewhat similar, though maybe easier in Inkscape if there are fewer options? I found it daunting at first as well, but the bezier handles are actually awesome for tweaking lines. You can't erase part of a line like you would in Photoshop (or on paper), but you can move the nodes to shorten, or you can break them apart and/or delete a section between two nodes. One piece of advice that helped was from bassanimation in this thread which is to think of vector work like working with construction paper, instead of like drawing.


I can only afford Illustrator and Photoshop because work pays for it. I love the Intuos but I'm not very good with it yet.


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jnorah


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taternuggets wrote:Thanks for taking the time to do this. I will definitely be checking out the tutorials you've listed here.

I have an Intuos 4 tablet and use photoshop. When I've tried to use illustrator for linework I've found it rather daunting... especially working with bezier handles and whatnot... strokes and fills and don't even get me started on trying to erase part of a line.... it was horrible. Does inkscape have a similar learning curve?


I actually use Manga Studio EX (pro version) for inking. It allows me to ink in vector or raster and export as a PSD. Another good program is Flash yes Flash the brush tool is excellent for inking and flash allows you to export as a bmp or illustrator file.

I have also used inkscape. It is no less easier or harder to learn than illustrator as they are both Vector drawing Apps and have similar tools.

You could just use Photoshop to do it all, just turn off anti-aliasing and use the pencil tool instead of the brush tool. I generally make a high quality bmp out of my line work with No smoothing or Anti-aliasing and I put it into it's own channel. Makes for easy selecting and always give me a good clean copy to work from no matter how many times I mess up.

Last but not least my all time favorite draw it out ink on tracing paper scan at 600dpi as a b&w bitmap bring into Photoshop or whatever you are using. Yes I still do this. I like it because I still have more control inking by hand.

Here is a list of excellent software and how I use them.

Sketchbook Pro / Quick sketching and Ideas layout design color planning.

Art Rage/ same as Above

Painter/ Same as above + inking and final colors.

Photoshop/ Same as all the above + simple animation.

Manga Studio/ Same as above + vector inking and coloring.

Illustrator/ Vector inking and Coloring usually with scanned or digitally drawn art work.

Flash/ Same as above + simple animation.

I have a tendency to use programs based on my moods. I am weird like that

taternuggets


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jnorah wrote:
Here is a list of excellent software and how I use them.


wow... talk about a learning curve.


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amreli


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taternuggets wrote:I can only afford Illustrator and Photoshop because work pays for it. I love the Intuos but I'm not very good with it yet.


I got Elements with my tablet, but my work definitely doesn't pay for Photoshop or Illustrator.


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