Derby #209: Fairy Tales

Sisters Sacrifice

Needs to be on a shirt template, download from submission page

Rejected because: Needs to be on a shirt template, download from submission page

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jubileejune


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Her hair is outlined by a color similar to the sea foam. I don't know why it didn't show up in the thumbnail. And the image has been smashed quite a bit too. The mermaids are much more lean. :P

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jubileejune wrote:Her hair is outlined by a color similar to the sea foam. I don't know why it didn't show up in the thumbnail. And the image has been smashed quite a bit too. The mermaids are much more lean. :P


If you add your comments on the image page where it says " +add a comment", the rest of us will know to which design you refer.

seedsofsedition


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jubileejune wrote:Her hair is outlined by a color similar to the sea foam. I don't know why it didn't show up in the thumbnail. And the image has been smashed quite a bit too. The mermaids are much more lean. :P


I suggest you take a look at the submission rules. you don't show placement in your comp image nor halftones (can't tell if there are any). take a look at the comp images for the other submissions for ideas on how to do that in a way you like.

I really like your design, I wouldn't want you to get rejected for something so simple.

find me here: cas.lollworks.com

jubileejune


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seedsofsedition wrote:I suggest you take a look at the submission rules. you don't show placement in your comp image nor halftones (can't tell if there are any). take a look at the comp images for the other submissions for ideas on how to do that in a way you like.

I really like your design, I wouldn't want you to get rejected for something so simple.


Yeah, this is my first entry and I was very confused by the rules. I have never done graphics where I needed to do the colors all on separate layers and all that and I never figured out how to do that. Gotta love the tutorials where they show you a blue square and a red triangle and show you how to separate colors when obviously my design is much more complex than that. Oh well. I guess I need to go educate myself further.

seedsofsedition


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jubileejune wrote:Yeah, this is my first entry and I was very confused by the rules. I have never done graphics where I needed to do the colors all on separate layers and all that and I never figured out how to do that. Gotta love the tutorials where they show you a blue square and a red triangle and show you how to separate colors when obviously my design is much more complex than that. Oh well. I guess I need to go educate myself further.


It is always best to separate colors in layers while you are working rather then retroactively doing it. When I'm working I usually have about 30 layers going if not more (all set to transparent base). When you get close to completion you can just merge all the ones that contain the same color. Lemme know if you have some specific questions.

find me here: cas.lollworks.com

jubileejune


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seedsofsedition wrote:It is always best to separate colors in layers while you are working rather then retroactively doing it. When I'm working I usually have about 30 layers going if not more (all set to transparent base). When you get close to completion you can just merge all the ones that contain the same color. Lemme know if you have some specific questions.


Yes, after making my piece I figured that would be best way is to work each color into a separate layer while going along.

I do have specific questions and am really grateful for the help.

I am mostly confused about the spot colors. I understand the concept and reason for spot colors in the printing process but am confused how you set only six spot colors for an entire piece, which is one of the derby rules.

I think for this piece I had something like 25 Pantone colors. Researching online and looking at various tutorials, I could never figure out if each of those Pantone colors represents its own spot color, in which case I would have way too many colors, or if I was to somehow simplify my many Pantone colors into six spot colors (and if that was the case, I never uncovered the process of doing that).

In short, I just don't know how to set spot colors, especially with a piece where you have a lot going on color-wise.

Doing my first piece, I realized I don't know as much as I need to about digital drawing. I spent quite a bit of time looking for a good book on the subject but so far I have only found books on digital painting, and while that can create beautiful results, I cannot imagine the difficulty in setting colors with that many brush strokes!

So, I have both PhotoShop and Illustrator and am just looking for any kind of a guide on getting better at creating a piece for shirt printing. If I can do that with digital painting then I have plenty of books to choose from, but if not, then do you know of any good books on the subject? Will getting the basic PhotoShop and/or Illustrator guide be good enough?

I really appreciate whatever help you can give me and especially your time in just reading my post!

seedsofsedition


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jubileejune wrote:Yes, after making my piece I figured that would be best way is to work each color into a separate layer while going along.

I do have specific questions...


Spot colors:
The way I do this is when I make my halftones I put the sharpness all the way up and the brightness all the way down. What I'm left with when I zoom all the way in is very pixelated circles of black (and this is while working in a greatly oversized canvas).
Then you can either paintbucket fill (which I don't do because it sometimes leaves you with weird black edges) or you can edit:select color:black with a very high threshold; then create a new layer while still selected to the area that is black; then in that new layer use a very large brush with full sharpness (no fuzzy edges) to fill the selected area.

When you minimize your final design you will get blurring due to file compression but that doesn't matter, what matters is that your print ready file contains pure layers.

Setting colors with digital painting:
With digital painting (like in my "The seven ravens" submission this week) I use a very similar technique to the one stated above. Just move the Brightness all the way to black and then halftone and fill.


Digital drawing vs painting:
As far as guides go I'd have no idea. Like most other art forms the best teacher is practice.
Watching some videos or reading some book may be helpful but ultimately you need to just sink some time in and see what feels right for you.

I'd suggest doing some general research on vector based (illustrator) vs pixel based (photoshop) programs so you understand there basic functions and differences.
If you are using a newer version of Illustrator look up the live trace function, this can help you to translate your sketches into vector images more easily.
And of course everyone looks at tutorials for specific techniques but as far as familiarizing yourself with the medium it is really just that... another medium. tackle it like you would watercolors or pen and ink, use it lots.
I know that sucks but you are already off to a good start.

hope that helps, lemme know if I can clarify anything further.

oh and one more thing. If you are a fine artist moving to digital mediums like I am a digitizing tablet can really help you feel comfortable. Take a look at the waccom bamboo series. they are a good mix of quality and affordability.

And if you have a portfolio site I'd love to see it. It might also help me see what your style is and therefore what would help you most.

find me here: cas.lollworks.com

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