Derby #221: Maps Redux!
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GPS Fail

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ramyb


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Re: GPS Fail


Remember, no matter what, common sense > gps

mrscat206


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ramyb wrote:Remember, no matter what, common sense > gps


In Fort Worth our GPS really did try to steer us off bridges several times. Good thing we mostly keep it on for her rockin' British accent...

polluxoil


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Reminds me of an older derby entry:

http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=44686

It wasn't a finalist and didn't turn into a shirt, so I'm not sure if shirt.woot would rule on it. I really like this design, though. It's not bad, obviously taken the concept and refined it more.

chumpmagic


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polluxoil wrote:

http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=44686


yup... another one to add to the list


Paradox55


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Why is the GPS recalculating if the destination has been reached?

asmadasrabbits


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Paradox55 wrote:Why is the GPS recalculating if the destination has been reached?


precisely what i was going to say.

ChaosDoctor07


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Paradox55 wrote:Why is the GPS recalculating if the destination has been reached?


That...is a very good question.

"Don't believe in the you who believes in me. Don't believe in the me who believes in you. Believe in the you who believes in yourself."

ramyb


quality posts: 20 Private Messages ramyb
Paradox55 wrote:Why is the GPS recalculating if the destination has been reached?


The idea is that the, no matter where you intended to go, you aren't going anywhere now (therefore, this is now your destination). Whether or not it's what you wanted is an entirely different matter.

eatingbrains


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This reminds me of that episode of the Office.

fuzzycorgi


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I can totally see this happening! For whatever reason GPS systems can't manage to navigate anyone to my work address. My GPS thinks we are on the tollroad then wants me to drive thru a solid fence. Another system sends people up the hill away from us to a vacant field. Someone just told me that her GPS sent her down a dead end street. If anyone wants to go North out of the parking lot the GPS sends them South to a gravel quary then has them make a U-Turn. Not only is there an intersection but the street has 3 lanes and 2 turn lanes in each direction.

GPS fail.

clbevilacqua


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chumpmagic wrote:yup... another one to add to the list


Really??? You believe that this artist has nothing better to do than look thru thousands of old designs and rework them?? My daughter is an artist and has, several times, designed something original that looks very like something else already out there and that is without any restrictions on category.....obviously, a good or funny idea is still a good idea, even if something similar has been done before. Hell, even comedians tell jokes about exactly what this entry shows!

Ramyb-I don't always like your entry and when I don't....I don't vote for it (go figure)! But I do, in general, love your style and, in particular, love the attention you give to background detail. Ignore the people who have nothing better to do than gripe at and about you and if you are a better person than I, say a pray for them to enjoy a more positive life. Keep up the great work....and remember that if you were a crappy artist, no one would be complaining about your entries!

Oh, and BTW, this one definitely got my vote!

epicfal


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eatingbrains wrote:This reminds me of that episode of the Office.


Same here. That bit might be my SIL's favorite joke on The Office, so if this prints, I'm all set for a birthday gift this year.

rowanmikaio


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I'm kind of surprised that no one seems to have commented on the art itself. I'm normally pretty forgiving, and I've defended Ramy's decisions a few times in the past, but I have to say that the car looks pretty awkward with the way it's sticking out of the water. I mean, the rear left tire, based on this perspective, hasn't even hit the water yet. That means that over HALF of the car isn't in the water. That wouldn't happen, because the weight of the car would push the back half down until it hit the water.

And since the guy is not only outside of the car, but has managed to get a decent distance away, the car is sinking ridiculously slowly.

Sorry, but I can't vote for this one. Maybe next time, Ramy!

Narfcake


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rowanmikaio wrote:... That means that over HALF of the car isn't in the water. That wouldn't happen, because the weight of the car would push the back half down until it hit the water.


FWD vehicles tend to have about 2/3rds of its weight in the front, so such could be plausible IF it was a shallow lake and the RF corner planted in the bottom of the lake as it landed.

The driver having to swim away, though, does not suggest a shallow lake ... and that does make this less than logical.

Yay that there's a social commentary to be made out of this ... nay that the execution doesn't come off with enough humor for me to consider.

thumperchick


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rowanmikaio wrote: I mean, the rear left tire, based on this perspective, hasn't even hit the water yet. That means that over HALF of the car isn't in the water. That wouldn't happen, because the weight of the car would push the back half down until it hit the water.


Perhaps the car hit a rock or something when it landed and it stuck like that... It's possible.

I find it funnier that the rate the car is sinking is what you find implausible about this shirt, when the premise is that the guy drove into a body of water because of his GPS... Yeah, they direct us in impossible ways sometimes, but you look before turning.

I still think it's funny, I still voted for it.

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Also, I saw a few multiples on the last Derby that had nothing to do with RAMYB, simply people having the same idea. I find it plausible that this is his original thought. I know that there were... issues in the past and that he notoriously reworks his same designs in multiple similar ways, but digging that hard, for a shirt that didn't print anywhere and didn't get close to the fog due to poor artwork is just petty.

holothuria


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thumperchick wrote:
Also, I saw a few multiples on the last Derby that had nothing to do with RAMYB, simply people having the same idea. I find it plausible that this is his original thought.


I'm not a frequent Ramybasher--in fact, I've been known to defend him from time to time--but I think in evidence in this design is his comfort with using the obvious joke. Whether or not something similar has been entered in a shirt.woot derby, this joke is close to a decade old and has been done dozens of times, in print cartoons and on TV shows.

This was stale before it went in the Easy-Bake Oven.

Bad ideas free; brilliant ideas by derangement.

blanked


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rowanmikaio wrote:I'm kind of surprised that no one seems to have commented on the art itself. I'm normally pretty forgiving, and I've defended Ramy's decisions a few times in the past, but I have to say that the car looks pretty awkward with the way it's sticking out of the water. I mean, the rear left tire, based on this perspective, hasn't even hit the water yet. That means that over HALF of the car isn't in the water. That wouldn't happen, because the weight of the car would push the back half down until it hit the water.

And since the guy is not only outside of the car, but has managed to get a decent distance away, the car is sinking ridiculously slowly.

Sorry, but I can't vote for this one. Maybe next time, Ramy!


An oddly shaped and weighted thing full of air will sink unevenly. But it would sink faster than this suggests from how far away the guy is, and there isn't a discernible way he got out of the car - if he had opened the door you would see it at that angle (and the water pooring in would keep it open).

ramyb


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blanked wrote:...there isn't a discernible way he got out of the car - if he had opened the door you would see it at that angle (and the water pooring in would keep it open).


He actually climbed out through the window

crazydoglady


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WOW - I have gotten into the habit of looking for Ramy designs just to read the comments, always interesting ^_^.

Until a few hours ago Ramy had three designs in the fog, all safe and familiar, none of them creative or imaginative. Any one of the three would probably sell (Ramy IS a marketing genius). BUT there are a few really good, creative, original designs bumping up against the fog that aren't going to get in and that's a shame - who knows, maybe one of those would-have-made-it designs could have been the next Nevermore. Those of us who have become addicted to Narfcakes' 6-nights-a-week stats know that top vote-getters aren't always top sellers, and visa versa. In the current reckoning Couldn't Care Less Bear placed second after Ironic Bunny but has sold substantially more shirts (because let's face it, a hung-over, panhandling Care Bear is funny to someone who has never heard the term "hipster" and doesn't understand irony... a sloppy design not really on theme, but marketing genius).

Woot, I have a suggestion, a win-win-win proposition. Any time that Ramy has 3 designes in the fog, create a "Ramy fog" and pull his designs out of the general competition. Then print the top 3 vote getters on Fri through Sun, and print the top Ramy design on Mon (or release in order of actual votes). A win-win-win. The Ramy minions can vote, gush, and buy Ramy. The Ramy bashers can post the usual critiques (which serve to stir up the Ramy minions and hey, there's no such thing as "bad" publicity). Three artist who would not have otherwise fogged will get some exposure and, most likely, one that wouldn't have printed will print, giving those of us who don't buy Ramy on principle the option to buy. AND we will finally be able to let the market decide, once and for all, whether Ramy shirts really do sell better than more creative, artistic, well-executed designs.

C'mon, woot, it'll be fun. If you build it up, spin it right, it should be a money-maker for woot... and some of my favorite up-and-coming artists might finally get a print.

Narfcake


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crazydoglady wrote:...
Woot, I have a suggestion, a win-win-win proposition.


Easier suggestion ... just spin off a ramy.woot.com and be done with it.

Narfcake


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bpr2 wrote:You didn't sell any in the hallowoot derby, so now you NEED to make more then 1 design to cope your "losses"? geeze, show some restraint.


He had three different entries in #220 also.

Multiple entries is nothing new, nor is multiple wins in the same derby. The first time that happened was in derby #11.

icymallard


quality posts: 4 Private Messages icymallard
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This probably seems to coincide with my unfavorable view of RamyB, but I'm quite certain that regardless of artist...

Joke Not Funny Anymore.

type40geekwithsam


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Are you sure its GPS system and not an ATMOS car?
Hehehe...Its not exactly a joke, but new Dr. Who Fans should get what I mean...

ChaosDoctor07


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type40geekwithsam wrote:Are you sure its GPS system and not an ATMOS car?
Hehehe...Its not exactly a joke, but new Dr. Who Fans should get what I mean...


You have reached your...final destination. Dun dun dun.

"Don't believe in the you who believes in me. Don't believe in the me who believes in you. Believe in the you who believes in yourself."

Ishmarie


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I like it, because it's so true.

ps. Love your designs, Ramyb. They never cease to make me laugh or, at the very least, smile.

wubupon


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type40geekwithsam wrote:Are you sure its GPS system and not an ATMOS car?
Hehehe...Its not exactly a joke, but new Dr. Who Fans should get what I mean...


If only there were a like button for your comment sir.

or ma'am

wubupon


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I am going to make an attempt to do some kind of constructive criticism. I am no artist...in fact my motor skills are that of a kindergartener, so I will start off by stating that I could do no better than this. I am speaking merely as a consumer. Pros: Familiar joke, cute gps floating in the water
Cons: Too much blue, Familiar joke, something about the font bothers me (someone else should explain why it's bothering me...I have no clue what exactly it is that bothers me about it.)

In case you didn't notice, I placed familiar joke as both a pro and a con. While using a popular joke does make it more accessible to the public, it causes me to personally feel bored with it. This is just a general statement about all jokes. It's the reason why comedians are scoffed at for doing airplane humor (regardless of how funny the joke is). Coming up with an original, witty, concept is much harder than recycling a reliable one. I would like to see you leave the comedic safe zone you have created for yourself. Other artists have introduced ideas like the Delorian crashing into the Tardis or cookie monster getting wasted from a milk and cookie binge. I find that these original and witty jokes make me literally lol. I do get a chuckle from your humor, but it's not enough to compel me to actually want to vote or buy one.

I am by no means hating on you or your shirts.
I have bought one of your shirts even. Your 8bit coffee one... Not because it was particularly appealing to me personally, but I knew someone who would find it VERY relevant.

jomo062591


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Ramyb,

As a fellow designer I hate seeing people deliberately taking somebody else's ideas to use in their own work. It's especially shameful when people can call you out on it. It seems that any more, if you can think of something, it's been done in some way, to some effect, even if it's to the slightest resemblance possible. It seems almost impossible to create something without somebody else saying, ""Hey look, that's the so-and-so from blah blah blah."

It's a cruel world and some people are always going to be haters. However, that being said, I must say that your work always turns out far better executed. Touche. Keep up the great work, but I would especially like to see future entries from you without glaring comments about how you copied a design that was already submitted to an earlier derby.

Also, I must add, I think this specific t-shirt design would look better without the white text at the bottom, or without the "recalculating.." text. I don't think it needs both. Whenever someone stops where they're at they should either be, "recalculating" or at their destination. I suggest taking off the big white text at the bottom and making the "recalculating..." white so it stands out better. That's my opinion though. I'm sure you tired of hearing people's heated opinions.

Best of luck,
+1 Fan

flamestamp13


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As the "artist" (or as I like to say, the guy who randomly poked at Illustrator until something happened) who did this last time, I have no issue with ramyb doing the same joke. Sure, it's kind of obvious, but that didn't stop me, and I don't consider this one to be "stealing" my joke.

And to the people who say the image doesn't need the text, if it wasn't there, it wouldn't be a map joke, it would be a bad driver joke.

elankat


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fuzzycorgi wrote:I can totally see this happening! For whatever reason GPS systems can't manage to navigate anyone to my work address. My GPS thinks we are on the tollroad then wants me to drive thru a solid fence. Another system sends people up the hill away from us to a vacant field. Someone just told me that her GPS sent her down a dead end street. If anyone wants to go North out of the parking lot the GPS sends them South to a gravel quary then has them make a U-Turn. Not only is there an intersection but the street has 3 lanes and 2 turn lanes in each direction.

GPS fail.


It has happened.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2015325599_slough16m.html

zekecatz


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It looks to me as if the car went into the water from the left. So why is the driver swimming away to the right, to the far shore?

palookaboy


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flamestamp13 wrote:As the "artist" (or as I like to say, the guy who randomly poked at Illustrator until something happened) who did this last time, I have no issue with ramyb doing the same joke. Sure, it's kind of obvious, but that didn't stop me, and I don't consider this one to be "stealing" my joke.

And to the people who say the image doesn't need the text, if it wasn't there, it wouldn't be a map joke, it would be a bad driver joke.


I'll say the same thing I said to DianaSprinkle in the Global Warming thread: very cool that you don't mind a previously used designed being re-used. But, while he did it intentionally or not, the 'similar shirts exist' rule exists for a reason. This seems to be violating that rule.

DianaSprinkle


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palookaboy wrote:I'll say the same thing I said to DianaSprinkle in the Global Warming thread: very cool that you don't mind a previously used designed being re-used. But, while he did it intentionally or not, the 'similar shirts exist' rule exists for a reason. This seems to be violating that rule.


That rule only applies if the first design actually becomes a shirt. The "exists" part of the rule as it were. The first design for this one was never made into a shirt.

Also... woot is very particular about this rule, sometimes they are strict to an extreme and sometimes they let similar shirts pass on by. In last week's Halloween derby, Ramyb's bunny avoided rejection even though a slightly different version of the same idea by him was rejected for "similar shirt's existing" in a previous derby. The rejectionator is fickle.

justplainme


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rowanmikaio wrote:I'm kind of surprised that no one seems to have commented on the art itself. I'm normally pretty forgiving, and I've defended Ramy's decisions a few times in the past, but I have to say that the car looks pretty awkward with the way it's sticking out of the water. I mean, the rear left tire, based on this perspective, hasn't even hit the water yet. That means that over HALF of the car isn't in the water. That wouldn't happen, because the weight of the car would push the back half down until it hit the water.

And since the guy is not only outside of the car, but has managed to get a decent distance away, the car is sinking ridiculously slowly.

Sorry, but I can't vote for this one. Maybe next time, Ramy!


You're definitely overanalyzing this. Nobody is going to sit there staring at the shirt thinking, "Why hasn't the car sunk more?" They'll just see that the GPS led the person astray, laugh, and go on with life. I say thumbs up for the design!

ssjandromeda


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My GPS says I'm in the ocean half the time here in Seattle... I gave up on the thing after about 3 weeks unless I go on road trips, even then it's in case I get hopelessly lost. ^_^;

gideonfrost


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ramyb wrote:He actually climbed out through the window


I love that there is a story to answer that question.

Narfcake


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zekecatz wrote:It looks to me as if the car went into the water from the left. So why is the driver swimming away to the right, to the far shore?


Considering the driver drove into the lake following a GPS instead of common sense, I say that logic was NOT used in their escape path either.

blinddog3d


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What, ...no rabbits or penguins? No foxes or turtles? You might just sway some votes?

...but not mine... too monochromatic I guess, but it's just not calling my name. I do like the concept. I just went on a trip to San Fran and the dam thing just kept saying, "recalculating."

Bets o' luck,
BlindDog3D

AutoTechInSTL


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Earlier this summer my and my G/F were meeting her family down in Gulf Shores, AL to spend a week at a vacation home on the beach with them.

Due to work constraints we couldn't get there until the day after them. On the way there we got a call from her brother to tell us *NOT* to follow the GPS as it takes you to a peninsula and has you take a ferry the rest of the way. Since this takes you two hours out of your way and there was a five hour wait on the ferry it would not be wise to go that route.

I then got to rub it in his face that I was able to read a map and not just blindly follow what my GPS told me. I couldn't stop laughing at him.

The truth is that I didn't even use a GPS. Yes I have it on my phone but didn't have to whip it out once the entire drive!

Steve was DELICIOUS!

smklung


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Nice job ripping this from The Office. I can't say I'm surprised, because it's what I've come to expect from you Ramby

ronzalone


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I'm just a bit confused why the shirt says "You have reached your destination" while the GPS says "Recalculating..."
If the GPS has to recalculate, you're still on your way to your destination, not at it.

Creeper1313


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I didn't know they had GPS back in Ted Kennedy's day...

lucksource


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This one made me chuckle - if only it weren't too late to take out the "Reached your Destination" text. I think this shirt would be perfect with no further explanation than "Recalculating..." (mental image of Mayhem laughing maniacally)

elchangoblanco


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Creeper1313 wrote:I didn't know they had GPS back in Ted Kennedy's day...


AAHHhhhh! That is so funny!

icymallard


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so the guy is dumb enough to drive into a deep body of water because of a GPS, but smart enough to figure out how to get out through the window.

Makes sense.

tgall45


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Congrats on making the contenders ranking again ramyb. We have a number of your shirt designs and I generally like this design. However, it has too much text. Having both "Recalculating" and "You have reached your destination" ruins the design in my opinion. Good luck but I'll pass on this one if it is offered.

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