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How disgusting! But honey badger don't care.

(Decided to work on this a little longer- it was mentioned that it looked a bit rushed, hopefully I remedied that issue )

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love it!!! I especially like the silhouette of hogwarts in the background! GMV

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^_^ This version does look so much more you!

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What does this have to do with the topic?

mrwednesday wrote:What does this have to do with the topic?

Honey badger doesn't belong at Hogwarts, and shouldn't be eating the other mascots. Honey badger isn't like the other animals. But honey badger don't care!

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That's just silly... I mean in a good way, of course. Some of your designs recently have a different line quality about them, as though they're hand drawn rather than vector-drawn. Have you been doing something different or is it my imagination?

*edit* on second thought, your other designs don't look vector-ish... I dunno but something looks different...

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This is entertaining. But the bird should be an eagle!

unsweetener wrote:This is entertaining. But the bird should be an eagle!

Well, I guess it could be one, actually.

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Too many colors...? It's really hard to tell here which is a color and which is halftones, which also makes me question the fineness of the halftones for display purposes.

TobiasAmaranth wrote:Too many colors...? It's really hard to tell here which is a color and which is halftones, which also makes me question the fineness of the halftones for display purposes.

All the halftones are one standard size (I display it in the detail closeup in the top corner- halftones are used for shading on the badger and scarves, lion's mane, and the snake's body. I have used this technique on many of my designs in the past, the nice thing about it is that it prints in a way that it is almost indistinguishable from simply using extra colors. It works really well because the halftones are of of a consistent size rather than being set up as a gradient, which makes it much cleaner for printing since they don't fade out to an infinitely small size but rather are uniform

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hahaha, I love this.

ramyb wrote:All the halftones are one standard size (I display it in the detail closeup in the top corner- halftones are used for shading on the badger and scarves, lion's mane, and the snake's body. I have used this technique on many of my designs in the past, the nice thing about it is that it prints in a way that it is almost indistinguishable from simply using extra colors. It works really well because the halftones are of of a consistent size rather than being set up as a gradient, which makes it much cleaner for printing since they don't fade out to an infinitely small size but rather are uniform

o... maybe that's why it looks different, or I am crazy. Either way, that sounds like a good way to halftone, I'll have to look up how to do it since I am photoshop newb.

ramyb wrote:All the halftones are one standard size (I display it in the detail closeup in the top corner- halftones are used for shading on the badger and scarves, lion's mane, and the snake's body. I have used this technique on many of my designs in the past, the nice thing about it is that it prints in a way that it is almost indistinguishable from simply using extra colors. It works really well because the halftones are of of a consistent size rather than being set up as a gradient, which makes it much cleaner for printing since they don't fade out to an infinitely small size but rather are uniform

Hmm, interesting sounding. I would be interested in seeing some close-ups of the various multi-colored areas. I've been trying to watch the various ways halftoning has been done around here lately, and this method makes for a strong difference for the shrunken preview image in a way that makes it more impressive than some forms of halftone shrinking.

Do you apply them at any particular or varied angle? And do you use the same angle for different patches of the same color or different angles for different colors, etc? *curious*

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This shirt has no connection to the topic at all. A badger is one of the four mascots of the Hogwarts houses. The fact that it's eating the snake is weird -- it makes no sense at all -- but that doesn't put it on topic.

TobiasAmaranth wrote:Hmm, interesting sounding. I would be interested in seeing some close-ups of the various multi-colored areas. I've been trying to watch the various ways halftoning has been done around here lately, and this method makes for a strong difference for the shrunken preview image in a way that makes it more impressive than some forms of halftone shrinking.

Do you apply them at any particular or varied angle? And do you use the same angle for different patches of the same color or different angles for different colors, etc? *curious*

I always apply them at the same angle (67.5 degrees)- for backgrounds and solid colored areas I use a round halftone, and for shading I use a line halftone. I find that keeping it uniform makes things look a lot cleaner in general.

Here are some closeups so you can see how it works:



The nice thing about it is that, when printed, it doesn't look like dots or lines but sort of "blends" to some degree with the color underneath to create a really convincing shading effect where the halftone is almost imperceptible

(edit)- I went back through the show us your woot thread to see if there were any photos from other times I used this technique. The best example I could find there was from my school design, where I used this to shade all the turtle shells- the colors are a little bright from the flash in this photo, but you can clearly see how the shading comes out really smooth looking, as though another color were used.

Line halftones especially, when properly placed, can really play tricks on your eyes and create great shading effects without getting excessively small.

Thanks for the explanation, super helpful!

ochopika wrote:Thanks for the explanation, super helpful!

NP- when I first started, I had no idea what halftones even were. In one of my earlier designs, I actually drew in diamonds by hand to create a halftone-like effect because I had no idea how people were creating them. One of the artists on the site at the time graciously explained to me how to do it after that point, so I'm glad to be able to help people with it now that I've been doing it for more than 3 years and have a lot more practice

ramyb wrote:I always apply them at the same angle (67.5 degrees)- for backgrounds and solid colored areas I use a round halftone, and for shading I use a line halftone. I find that keeping it uniform makes things look a lot cleaner in general.

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Thank you very much actually for taking the time to type up a reply. I actually notice in the school one you use the varied-size halftoning for the background, which is what I've been used to seeing until recently. That's why I was curious about this particular technique. And yeah, even printed like that, the back-shading for the turtles does look like a completely separate color in that photo. Neat.

kylemittskus wrote:This shirt has no connection to the topic at all. A badger is one of the four mascots of the Hogwarts houses. The fact that it's eating the snake is weird -- it makes no sense at all -- but that doesn't put it on topic.

Sure it does! The badger (hufflepuff) which is usually known for their gentle/good-natured side is killing the snake (slytherin) It also references to Honey badgers which is just awesome!

kylemittskus wrote:This shirt has no connection to the topic at all. A badger is one of the four mascots of the Hogwarts houses. The fact that it's eating the snake is weird -- it makes no sense at all -- but that doesn't put it on topic.

its connection to the theme is the actual animal, the honey badger: an aggressive animal that eats other predators like venomous snakes unlike other animals that just hunt things that don't bite back. i'm assuming the hogwarts theme was just added to give it more entertainment value since both the badger and snake happen to be hogwarts mascots.

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Thank you very much for the information on how you do your halftones. For me, it has been one of the hardest things to learn how to make look good at all. If you don't mind, in this entry what is the LPI on the shading?

Thanks again,

Firefrogh

Mekora wrote:Sure it does! The badger (hufflepuff) which is usually known for their gentle/good-natured side is killing the snake (slytherin) It also references to Honey badgers which is just awesome!

Something that you like doesn't make this on topic. As to your first argument, that's not "Fish Out of Water" or something that doesn't belong. It's something acting outside of its normal. Not the same thing.

And we have no way of knowing that this is the honey badger don't care meme since it's a Harry Potter reference. And let's say that it is that meme; it makes even less sense.

leevijeans wrote:its connection to the theme is the actual animal, the honey badger: an aggressive animal that eats other predators like venomous snakes unlike other animals that just hunt things that don't bite back. i'm assuming the hogwarts theme was just added to give it more entertainment value since both the badger and snake happen to be hogwarts mascots.

The shirt is a Harry Potter shirt, so all four of them belong. Not one of them is the fish out of water. The Harry Potter theme is the shirt, it's not just an added afterthought. I have no idea what the first thing you're trying to say means. The badger is the fish out of water because it eats other animals? Lions don't? Snakes don't? Or the badger eats things that bite back so it's different? What the hell are you talking about?!

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I'm not sure what everyone is complaining about. It makes complete sense. The hufflepuff which is a badger, is eating what most people think would be gross. So yeah, lions eat other animals as well as snakes. Its just unusual and awkward that it is eating another hogwarts crest...which I think is awkward. Your argument of saying this shirt doesn't make sense is not valid.

I think this shirt is clever and I think the artist put a lot of work into it. If you don't like it, then don't vote for it. Don't waste everyone's time by writing a lengthy comment about how this shirt doesn't make sense.

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why so mean to the snake no me gusta

meltedpopsicles wrote:I'm not sure what everyone is complaining about. It makes complete sense. The hufflepuff which is a badger, is eating what most people think would be gross. So yeah, lions eat other animals as well as snakes. Its just unusual and awkward that it is eating another hogwarts crest...which I think is awkward. Your argument of saying this shirt doesn't make sense is not valid.

I think this shirt is clever and I think the artist put a lot of work into it. If you don't like it, then don't vote for it. Don't waste everyone's time by writing a lengthy comment about how this shirt doesn't make sense.

It's really cute, but i wish there's one where Slytherin overpowers the other houses too, just to make it fair.

kylemittskus wrote:The shirt is a Harry Potter shirt, so all four of them belong. Not one of them is the fish out of water. The Harry Potter theme is the shirt, it's not just an added afterthought. I have no idea what the first thing you're trying to say means. The badger is the fish out of water because it eats other animals? Lions don't? Snakes don't? Or the badger eats things that bite back so it's different? What the hell are you talking about?!

Badgers and honey badger are actually different species and look different. They aren't the same animal at all.



The fact that this is a Harry Potter shirt makes it more on topic for me. The honey badge isn't a badger and also isn't acting like all of the other mascots, which seem to be acting like students. It's not the strongest of fish out of water themed shirts but I think it fits.

DianaSprinkle wrote:Badgers and honey badger are actually different species and look different. They aren't the same animal at all.

Correct. But Honey Badger dont give a *beep*! It's gonna be whatever it wants!


Honey Badger makes an awesome appearance in The Gods Must Be Crazy 2, one of my favorite movies of all time. ^_^

ramyb wrote:I always apply them at the same angle (67.5 degrees)- for backgrounds and solid colored areas I use a round halftone, and for shading I use a line halftone. I find that keeping it uniform makes things look a lot cleaner in general.

Here are some closeups so you can see how it works:

*snip*


Line halftones especially, when properly placed, can really play tricks on your eyes and create great shading effects without getting excessively small.

I just also want to say thanks for posting this! I used to work a bit with photoshop a long time ago, but never knew about halftones. You do some really great work, so it's nice to get an idea of how the pros do it!

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this shirt is amazing. will buy. <3

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I love this shirt. I would point out how it's not at all off-topic, but several others have already made enough points. This is the first shirt in a while I've been dying to have. Good luck!

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Well played! Absolutely love the double-joke, of sorts, here. Really enjoying this weeks entries, overall! Best of luck!

DianaSprinkle wrote:Badgers and honey badger are actually different species and look different. They aren't the same animal at all.

Thanks for clarifying that, Diana. The other day when I first saw this, I almost commented that it was not very on topic, because I thought it was a regular badger (which wouldn't be out of place at Hogwarts, duh!). Then I saw ramy's first comment about the honey badger and it all made sense...

Honey badger definitely don't fit in at Hogwarts, but HONEY BADGER DON'T CARE!

ramyb wrote:I always apply them at the same angle (67.5 degrees)- for backgrounds and solid colored areas I use a round halftone, and for shading I use a line halftone. I find that keeping it uniform makes things look a lot cleaner in general.

Here are some closeups so you can see how it works:



The nice thing about it is that, when printed, it doesn't look like dots or lines but sort of "blends" to some degree with the color underneath to create a really convincing shading effect where the halftone is almost imperceptible

(edit)- I went back through the show us your woot thread to see if there were any photos from other times I used this technique. The best example I could find there was from my school design, where I used this to shade all the turtle shells- the colors are a little bright from the flash in this photo, but you can clearly see how the shading comes out really smooth looking, as though another color were used.

Line halftones especially, when properly placed, can really play tricks on your eyes and create great shading effects without getting excessively small.

Dude, thanks for explaining some tone stuff for us. I've found that no matter what I do I can't get my halftones to look nice. :{ This is extremely helpful.

kylemittskus wrote:The shirt is a Harry Potter shirt, so all four of them belong. Not one of them is the fish out of water. The Harry Potter theme is the shirt, it's not just an added afterthought. I have no idea what the first thing you're trying to say means. The badger is the fish out of water because it eats other animals? Lions don't? Snakes don't? Or the badger eats things that bite back so it's different? What the hell are you talking about?!

I'm not even a big Harry Potter fan and I know this isn't a Harry Potter shirt - it's a double-theme shirt with Harry Potter mascots AND Honey Badger (look up the mascots, the Hufflepuff mascot is an English badger with stripes on its face/head, the shirt design is a honey badger). It's a "clever" design as opposed to obvious and cute, I'm sorry you don't get it.

Really like this, its phatasmic, and I'm not even all that into harry potter

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It makes me sad that there are at least seven creative, original ideas on the bottom barrel of this derby, yet the same tired "cute" garbage from ramyb is in the top, just like every time. They really need to instate some kind of "win ____ times in x amount of time and you're not able to re-enter for ____ days" rule.

DianaSprinkle wrote:The fact that this is a Harry Potter shirt makes it more on topic for me. The honey badge isn't a badger and also isn't acting like all of the other mascots, which seem to be acting like students. It's not the strongest of fish out of water themed shirts but I think it fits.

This is the only counterargument to mine that is at all logical. And I retract my off-topic post. If it is indeed identifiable as a honey badger, then it is on topic. Thanks for clarifying the differences. I still think the shirt is BS, but it is on-theme.

kakow wrote:It makes me sad that there are at least seven creative, original ideas on the bottom barrel of this derby, yet the same tired "cute" garbage from ramyb is in the top, just like every time. They really need to instate some kind of "win ____ times in x amount of time and you're not able to re-enter for ____ days" rule.

First of all, interesting that you'd define this as "cute," but ok fine I won't argue that point. But the "just like every time" is what gets me. I have had one other design that could possibly be defined as "cutesy" since the start of this year, which ended in 16th place. So far this year, I've had two designs that printed, one of which was a watercolor tree and the other an abstract representation of inspiration the mind. Perhaps you check the derby an average of once every few months and have just gotten unlucky, but I have been working hard to have a great deal of variety in my designs recently, both in content and style. And don't worry, (spoiler alert!) this design is not going to print anyway so you can breathe a little easier.

Anyway, thanks everyone else for the kind words, I'm glad to help with the halftone stuff and might put together a formal tutorial for different halftoning techniques that I have amassed over the years

kakow wrote:It makes me sad that there are at least seven creative, original ideas on the bottom barrel of this derby, yet the same tired "cute" garbage from ramyb is in the top, just like every time. They really need to instate some kind of "win ____ times in x amount of time and you're not able to re-enter for ____ days" rule.

It seems like someone has their cranky pants on today....Ramyb has a skill in creating both clever AND breathtaking images and I look forward to seeing what he has to offer each week.

Keep creating Ramyb... I enjoy seeing what you come up with each week!

ramyb wrote:First of all, interesting that you'd define this as "cute," but ok fine I won't argue that point. But the "just like every time" is what gets me. I have had one other design that could possibly be defined as "cutesy" since the start of this year, which ended in 16th place. So far this year, I've had two designs that printed, one of which was a watercolor tree and the other an abstract representation of inspiration the mind. Perhaps you check the derby an average of once every few months and have just gotten unlucky, but I have been working hard to have a great deal of variety in my designs recently, both in content and style. And don't worry, (spoiler alert!) this design is not going to print anyway so you can breathe a little easier.

Anyway, thanks everyone else for the kind words, I'm glad to help with the halftone stuff and might put together a formal tutorial for different halftoning techniques that I have amassed over the years

First, I for one have enjoyed seeing you branch out and work different themes other than 'cute'. You definitely have been strengthening your craft. And second, thanks tons for the discussion on halftones. I'd love to see you post a tutorial in one of the community threads. It'd be a terrific help to a lot of us amateurs, and maybe some pros, too.
And third, WANT TO HUG!? This is fogging; what makes you think it won't print? Neither the style nor the subject matter are my thing, and I won't even opine on the 'on-topic-ness'. But I see lots of votes going to it. Just curious why you don't see it printing. Spoiler?

paigeg wrote:First, I for one have enjoyed seeing you branch out and work different themes other than 'cute'. You definitely have been strengthening your craft. And second, thanks tons for the discussion on halftones. I'd love to see you post a tutorial in one of the community threads. It'd be a terrific help to a lot of us amateurs, and maybe some pros, too.
And third, WANT TO HUG!? This is fogging; what makes you think it won't print? Neither the style nor the subject matter are my thing, and I won't even opine on the 'on-topic-ness'. But I see lots of votes going to it. Just curious why you don't see it printing. Spoiler?

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As for why I don't think this will print, this is definitely a competitive fog, and there are two designs that were posted after this one that fogged before it. I appreciate all the votes on this design, but the chances of it making it higher than 8th or 9th seem pretty slim to me. I'd love to be wrong though :P

kakow wrote:It makes me sad that there are at least seven creative, original ideas on the bottom barrel of this derby, yet the same tired "cute" garbage from ramyb is in the top, just like every time.

At least it's not turtles, but, yes, I kinda feel the same way.

kakow wrote:
They really need to instate some kind of "win ____ times in x amount of time and you're not able to re-enter for ____ days" rule.

I don't agree with you on that part. Personally, I don't have a problem with patrickspens printing a shirt almost every week also, as long as it is solid design, funny/clever and/or well executed (sometimes I even happen to find that some ramyb designs deserved their printing).
What makes me mad is to see that people keep voting blindly for ramyb's generic and overused designs, preventing other designs, often more original or better executed, to print (and me to buy these by the way)

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LOVE IT!

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I was hoping it would be a reference to this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIyixC9NsLI

Wouldnt personally buy this one but I for one have noticed how you have branched out somewhat Ramyb and I for one appreciate that you are making that effort of moving forward with your work.

kakow wrote:It makes me sad that there are at least seven creative, original ideas on the bottom barrel of this derby, yet the same tired "cute" garbage from ramyb is in the top, just like every time. They really need to instate some kind of "win ____ times in x amount of time and you're not able to re-enter for ____ days" rule.

Didn't we outgrow participation awards after elementary school? I would think winning because you're the best would be far more satisfying than winning because the best were rendered ineligible... for being the best, no less.