Derby #238: Kitties!
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A patch of sun

A patch of sun
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Spiritgreen


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It's so hard to move when you get warm and comfy.

I'm going to give you a pass today, mouse. On account of being buried under all of these other cats, but don't go thinking this changes anything. I still got my eye on you.


See a BIG VERSION here! This is six colors on a brown tee.

Thanks for looking, please vote if you like this design. ^__^
---Spiritgreen

bassanimation


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I was just wondering where you were at with this one, Spirit! It turned out SO incredibly well! I must have this!! I want to tickle the tiny mouwsker down there -tickle tickle- +1, amazing work!

bottlehed


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Awesome details!

mitchloidolt


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awww :D

paigeg


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I was waiting for this - came out awesome!

Spiritgreen


quality posts: 210 Private Messages Spiritgreen
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Thank you muchly!

I tried to push myself with a more complicated design this week and take a little extra time than usual to finish it. Glad I did. ^_^

midgerock


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I understand what you were going for with the design since I own a cat myself and they just love laying in the sun but this looks like a pile of dead cats baking in the sun to me. varied lengths to the legs of the cats and kittens and the one open eye on the bottom cat which I realize is staring at the mouse seems too open and dead looking. If it was more closed and spying it may read better.

soccermom2012


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Spiritgreen wrote:Thank you muchly!

I tried to push myself with a more complicated design this week and take a little extra time than usual to finish it. Glad I did. ^_^


A co-worker of mine let me in on the shirt woot contest a few weeks back, which I thought was pretty cool, but seeing this design, my wool got so steeled, I had to actually sign up for an account to express my disgust for this artist and this appalling design.

Obviously, you don't like cats, which is fine. Some people like birds, some like dogs... but to think entering a drawing depicting a pile of cats that have apparently been euthanized or poisoned into a shirt derby for CAT LOVERS, breaches all possible boundaries of human respect. You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself, as should all of you people who have voted for it.
What really gets me, is that it looks like the artist actually took some time to draw and color this heinous spectacle, most likley laughing the whole time. He also has the pile in some kind of spotlight, showcasing the heartless act.

Again, it's fine that you don't like cats... but my Uncle Robert got discharged from the war honorably for a bum leg, and my aunt bought him home a cat to keep him company while she worked in the market. If it wasn't for that cat, my poor uncle's recovering would have been a lot longer and grueling. This is just in really poor taste, and is really upsetting.

Kraagh


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soccermom2012 wrote:A co-worker of mine let me in on the shirt woot contest a few weeks back, which I thought was pretty cool, but seeing this design, my wool got so steeled, I had to actually sign up for an account to express my disgust for this artist and this appalling design.

Obviously, you don't like cats, which is fine. Some people like birds, some like dogs... but to think entering a drawing depicting a pile of cats that have apparently been euthanized or poisoned into a shirt derby for CAT LOVERS, breaches all possible boundaries of human respect. You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself, as should all of you people who have voted for it.
What really gets me, is that it looks like the artist actually took some time to draw and color this heinous spectacle, most likley laughing the whole time. He also has the pile in some kind of spotlight, showcasing the heartless act.

Again, it's fine that you don't like cats... but my Uncle Robert got discharged from the war honorably for a bum leg, and my aunt bought him home a cat to keep him company while she worked in the market. If it wasn't for that cat, my poor uncle's recovering would have been a lot longer and grueling. This is just in really poor taste, and is really upsetting.


Clearly you are not very familiar with cats. I have had cats for years and I know that any time there is a patch of sunlight coming through the window, there is going to be a cat on it. I only wish mine would pile on the same spot and cuddle up, instead they fight over that one spot.

I really like the design, only thing I can think would make it better is if the kitties were orange. I have a soft spot for orange kitties, you would understand if you saw my cats.

wirdou


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Ok Matt, when I first saw your sketch I couldn't close my mouth, but with this I think I will need to go to the hospital. Apart from being cute and beautiful, the effect you've created with the light is simply amazing... mmmm I have so many things to learn... hahaha (and thanks for the congratulations :D)

ramyb


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Your coloring skills always astound me. You have never had a design where I even noticed that you were limited to 6 colors. Perfect as usual

dreadwood


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soccermom2012 wrote:A co-worker of mine let me in on the shirt woot contest a few weeks back, which I thought was pretty cool, but seeing this design, my wool got so steeled, I had to actually sign up for an account to express my disgust for this artist and this appalling design.

Obviously, you don't like cats, which is fine. Some people like birds, some like dogs... but to think entering a drawing depicting a pile of cats that have apparently been euthanized or poisoned into a shirt derby for CAT LOVERS, breaches all possible boundaries of human respect. You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself, as should all of you people who have voted for it.
What really gets me, is that it looks like the artist actually took some time to draw and color this heinous spectacle, most likley laughing the whole time. He also has the pile in some kind of spotlight, showcasing the heartless act.

Again, it's fine that you don't like cats... but my Uncle Robert got discharged from the war honorably for a bum leg, and my aunt bought him home a cat to keep him company while she worked in the market. If it wasn't for that cat, my poor uncle's recovering would have been a lot longer and grueling. This is just in really poor taste, and is really upsetting.


I'm loling pretty nicely :D thanks for the laugh.

goldenthorn


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soccermom2012 wrote:A co-worker of mine let me in on the shirt woot contest a few weeks back, which I thought was pretty cool, but seeing this design, my wool got so steeled, I had to actually sign up for an account to express my disgust for this artist and this appalling design.

Obviously, you don't like cats, which is fine. Some people like birds, some like dogs... but to think entering a drawing depicting a pile of cats that have apparently been euthanized or poisoned into a shirt derby for CAT LOVERS, breaches all possible boundaries of human respect. You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself, as should all of you people who have voted for it.
What really gets me, is that it looks like the artist actually took some time to draw and color this heinous spectacle, most likley laughing the whole time. He also has the pile in some kind of spotlight, showcasing the heartless act.

Again, it's fine that you don't like cats... but my Uncle Robert got discharged from the war honorably for a bum leg, and my aunt bought him home a cat to keep him company while she worked in the market. If it wasn't for that cat, my poor uncle's recovering would have been a lot longer and grueling. This is just in really poor taste, and is really upsetting.


I... wut... this... have you.... I... agdajkdgkljgfalkjsgflkjh;ljkhKLASDH

...

Hello and welcome to woot! It is simply wonderful and heartening to see someone so passionate about cats. I myself am the proud and crazy owner of three cats and do very much empathise with the empassioned defense of their worthiness, goodness, and should-not-be-dead-ness. With my own expert expertise in cattery and well-honed master skills of forum readery, I am here to assure you that the artist is doing nothing more suspicious than illustrating a hyperbolic they-sure-do-love-that-sunlight catpile. If you have design criticism along the lines of Mr. Midgerock's, as seen above, then I will not be one to necessarily disagree. But please do let yourself rest easy in the knowledge that Teh Kitteh is well-respected in this design.

If, on the other hand, you are trolling the established woot trope of Today's Offended Party, then I see what you did there and salute you.

Radscoolian


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Way cool spirit! I've gotten out of the habit of drawing more than 3 or 4 characters on a shirt because I'm lazy. This must have taken you a while.
+1

midgerock


quality posts: 6 Private Messages midgerock
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I hope I don't come across as beating a dead horse but the design even from a few feet away looks like a pile of dead cats. you look on the computer and see a cool drawing. and SG has skills and this drawing is well done but doesn't work for a tee. people will think you are creepy cat hating person if you go walking around with a pile of cats on your chest. You would have to be right on top of a person looking closely to get the idea they are laying in the sun light.

ThunderThighs


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I don't think for a minute that this is a pile of lifeless kitties but the open eye on that one is a bit creepy. I kinda want it to be mad with an arm stretch out trying to get the mouse but hopelessly tangled and unable to do so.



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pandareus


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I don't particularly like cats, I never owned one, and yet I got the idea of the shirt instantly.

midgerock


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pandareus wrote:I don't particularly like cats, I never owned one, and yet I got the idea of the shirt instantly.


yes because you are looking at a close up of the detailed illustration. Of course if you look at the design with your face less than a foot away from the screen you can tell what is going on. as with my first comment I got the gist of the design. My point is someone who is not viewing this at a computer but viewing on you walking down the streets until they get within a foot of you wearing this design will think you are wearing a shirt with a pile of dead animals on it.

lucky1988


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Love the complicated layout. Great illustration SG! +1

anxietyjunkie


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I can't understand why people would think this is a pile of dead cats. The one on top is stretching, for heaven's sake! As the slave of two myself, I've seen this more times than I can count. Great design!

SnowQueenVT


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I loved this shirt the first time I saw it but didn't feel like I needed to comment.I just loved it in private. The beautiful artwork is a stand out and the warm cozy cuddly mama with her kittens is so sweet. I actually thought that one long comment was a friend of SG's and was joking him!I am a huge cat lover and this cozy kitty pile was my immediate favorite of the derby.

http://www.wix.com/scottgreenip/snowqueenvt

bluetuba


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I don't get the dead cat concern at all. Have you ever seen a group of kittens all sleeping on each other? And given a cats well known affinity for sleeping in patches of sunlight I think the joke here is very clear. The top kitten is clearly alive, sitting up and climbing/reaching, and IMO the bottom cat only has one eye open and isn't reaching very hard because cats are lazy, especially those who are napping in patches of sunlight. Anybody who's ever owned a cat has seen this lazy, not really trying, giving some minimal token effort reaching behavior, heh

I think from a distance it will just look like a pile of some indistinguishable anything, and when you get close enough to see cats and patch of sunlight it's obvious.

It's kinda like a Rorschach test, and you'll see what you want to see. :P You can't blame the artist or the design if you are seeing piles of corpses everywhere!

cptgone


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that is so amazing.

i can almost feel the warm cuddliness of that pile of fur, and i love the playful-yet-lazy look in the eyes of the awake cat.

SO hope it prints!

redsatchmo


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That is adorable

aramis525


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goldenthorn wrote:I... wut... this... have you.... I... agdajkdgkljgfalkjsgflkjh;ljkhKLASDH

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Hello and welcome to woot! It is simply wonderful and heartening to see someone so passionate about cats. I myself am the proud and crazy owner of three cats and do very much empathise with the empassioned defense of their worthiness, goodness, and should-not-be-dead-ness. With my own expert expertise in cattery and well-honed master skills of forum readery, I am here to assure you that the artist is doing nothing more suspicious than illustrating a hyperbolic they-sure-do-love-that-sunlight catpile. If you have design criticism along the lines of Mr. Midgerock's, as seen above, then I will not be one to necessarily disagree. But please do let yourself rest easy in the knowledge that Teh Kitteh is well-respected in this design.

If, on the other hand, you are trolling the established woot trope of Today's Offended Party, then I see what you did there and salute you.


I LIKE YOU!

Spiritgreen


quality posts: 210 Private Messages Spiritgreen
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Huh! ... I wasn't expecting any kind of controversy with this one. How weird. :^) Thanks bluetuba, goldenthorn, SnowQueen and well, a lot of people, for already saying everything I could have said to explain my thought process and artistic choices here.

I really appreciate all the kind words and enthusiasm for this design. It was a challenging one but I'm happy with it too. Thanks!

Kraagh


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Spiritgreen wrote:Huh! ... I wasn't expecting any kind of controversy with this one. How weird. :^) Thanks bluetuba, goldenthorn, SnowQueen and well, a lot of people, for already saying everything I could have said to explain my thought process and artistic choices here.

I really appreciate all the kind words and enthusiasm for this design. It was a challenging one but I'm happy with it too. Thanks!


As I said before, I really like this design....ok, I don't like it...I love it. And, if this one prints....you are going to cost me money.

I had to let you know, I thought of this shirt today. It is a cold, snowy day, but this morning my mother raised her shade on the window and it just so happened the sun was out and created a nice patch of sunlight on the floor. It literally took her cat two seconds to find the patch of sunny warmth and lay down in it. Only thing missing was a dozen kittens piled on top of him!

Spiritgreen


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Haha, cats are fast. I'm not sure they actually pass through the intervening space between where they are, and the sunny spot they've just noticed. Instant comfiness.

midgerock


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Spiritgreen wrote:Huh! ... I wasn't expecting any kind of controversy with this one. How weird. :^) Thanks bluetuba, goldenthorn, SnowQueen and well, a lot of people, for already saying everything I could have said to explain my thought process and artistic choices here.

I really appreciate all the kind words and enthusiasm for this design. It was a challenging one but I'm happy with it too. Thanks!


to be clear on my part as well SG, my comments are pure critique, whether you accept the feedback or not, that's up to you. But as any artist I appreciate feedback always on my designs and the dialogue of the creative process. You do have talent. There's no question to that extent, and this design is a lovely illustration. But as a shirt design as it is currently it needs some changes. Believe me this is not an attack but one artist critiquing another artist's work. Again, if you think my critique holds no merit since I am the only one stating so then so be it. Good luck.

drolefille


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I love the art, I just can't see myself wearing it on a shirt. Particularly with the shape of a shirt on, well, "the girls". I hope I'm wrong though.

Spiritgreen


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@midgerock, hey of course, I know you're offering advice. There -is- a danger of a design becoming strange when you use a fairly realistic style but you're exaggerating something, but I don't think that's the case here.

If you're close enough to see cats, you can get they're a big cosy pile of happiness. Would it avoid any chance of a soccermom2012 misunderstanding and be more popular in an expressive, cutesy style? Probably, but I don't regret using real cat anatomy and behaviour. I hope it gives it some natural charm.

Cheers.

bassanimation


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Wow, Im really surprised at the drama going on...assuming it's real drama and not sarcasm drama? Im gettin' too old to tell, hah.

I dont see anything bad about this image, at least not as far as the cats appearing dead @_@. (though, have you seen cats sleep? Sometimes they do look like lifeless socks) I do think maybe the realism might be getting people. For a design this complicated, a tad less realism might have made the image easier to read from a distance. If you were to keep the realism, exaggerating the happy facial features might have helped a bit more too. These are just minor suggestions though. The composition is really well done, and the lighting is perfect. Spirit always hits these right on the head. I wish I had half the natural ability to hit them too! -struggles with both!-

bluetuba


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bassanimation wrote:Wow, Im really surprised at the drama going on..


*shrug* I wouldn't call it drama, soccermom is an obvious troll and Midge is just seeing dead people. ^^

midgerock


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bluetuba wrote:*shrug* I wouldn't call it drama, soccermom is an obvious troll and Midge is just seeing dead people. ^^


appreciate the love, Big Tuna! ;)

bassanimation


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bluetuba wrote:*shrug* I wouldn't call it drama, soccermom is an obvious troll and Midge is just seeing dead people. ^^


Shhhh, they dont know they're dead! :X

fourlane77


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..love the artwork...hadn't crossed my mind at all that these might be dead cats until i read some of the other comments here..

that being said...

..i MIGHT see how this could be misinterpreted depending on who was wearing it..i'm not one to normally judge a book by it's cover, but it stands to reason that a pile of cats printed across a little girl's chest has a different effect on the viewer than if it were brandished by some biker in a rough bar on the wrong side of town..

so while the soccer mom comment was ridiculously excessive (as if some sad-sob story of an uncle was necessary to her statement) and presumptuous, her first impression is no less valid because the circumstances of her observation most likely dictated it as such...

..well-founded, on the other hand? i hardly think so...

vote. vote. vote. vote. vote. vote.

fairnymph


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Agggh...Brown,the colour of doom -- vs the far more horrible colour of DOOM mistakenly called Cream. *sighhhhh*

Oh man, if only this weren't brown....or at least were BROWN tabbies on a brown shirt, in which case I would feel the background could work as one of the colours in the design and would be matched in colour tones. I feel gray & brown very often clash, too, so brown tabbies instead would be a fix, or you could put the current grey tabby design on the darkest shade of gray (asphalt?).

It's just so rare that I can justify a design on brown... I may have one but I'm not even sure I have ANY woot brown shirts. And I LOVE this concept, art, and TABBIES of all sorts. Maybe you could consider submitting another version or two w/ the suggested change(s) ?Pretty pretty please? :D

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fairnymph


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midgerock wrote:I understand what you were going for with the design since I own a cat myself and they just love laying in the sun but this looks like a pile of dead cats baking in the sun to me. varied lengths to the legs of the cats and kittens and the one open eye on the bottom cat which I realize is staring at the mouse seems too open and dead looking. If it was more closed and spying it may read better.

THIS is another reason I strongly suggest a different colour shirt, and perhaps with the extra colour you'd gain from being able use the background asphalt/grey, you could do green eyes which would certainly make the whole design more lively & less dead/sick. I associate yellow-tinted white of the eyes with the the disease jaundice

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dfunk29


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goldenthorn wrote:I... wut... this... have you.... I... agdajkdgkljgfalkjsgflkjh;ljkhKLASDH

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Hello and welcome to woot! It is simply wonderful and heartening to see someone so passionate about cats. I myself am the proud and crazy owner of three cats and do very much empathise with the empassioned defense of their worthiness, goodness, and should-not-be-dead-ness. With my own expert expertise in cattery and well-honed master skills of forum readery, I am here to assure you that the artist is doing nothing more suspicious than illustrating a hyperbolic they-sure-do-love-that-sunlight catpile. If you have design criticism along the lines of Mr. Midgerock's, as seen above, then I will not be one to necessarily disagree. But please do let yourself rest easy in the knowledge that Teh Kitteh is well-respected in this design.

If, on the other hand, you are trolling the established woot trope of Today's Offended Party, then I see what you did there and salute you.


Wow. You are a rock star. Your initial reaction in your response(I...wut...) was the same as mine, but you...you..you just-wow!

Ever thought of running for office?

Spiritgreen


quality posts: 210 Private Messages Spiritgreen
Re: A patch of sun


Hey guys, new version here.

I took all of your thoughts into account and started experimenting with some changes. Hopefully things are sunnier now.

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