Derby #240: Take THAT, Ninja!
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All Sails Ahead!

All Sails Ahead!
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Spiritgreen


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Handsome design!

I'm not completely sold on this as a shirt, but as a digital painting it's awesome. The sense of volume is so strong this almost feels 3D. Very impressive lighting too.

chiinkz86


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Spiritgreen wrote:I'm not completely sold on this as a shirt, but as a digital painting it's awesome. The sense of volume is so strong this almost feels 3D. Very impressive lighting too.


awwwww don't be jelly!!

taternuggets


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Wow. Great work as always.


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Spiritgreen


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chiinkz86 wrote:awwwww don't be jelly!!


Hey when it comes to Patrick's work I'm a 3-tier jelly with fruit in it. ^__^

cjleines


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This is absolutely incredible. It is my second favorite shirt I have seen on woot. My number one, you ask? Your Escape shirt with the Robot and Red Balloon. That was the first and only woot shirt that I have bought without it being a mystery shirt week. This could be the second.

pahkmycah


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I am just in awe at this design, by the pirate shirt Gods please let this one be printed.

specsmachine


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This is a breath of fresh air.

dijay


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WOW!!! Awesome work!

jagendorf


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Beautiful work as always Patrick! You provide exceptional artwork almost every week. I foresee this taking 1st or 2nd in the derby.

Bilyum it up all day long!

anemality


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I literally swore out loud when I saw this because it's so awesome. >:|

rockymike


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The halftone master strikes again.

Yeah, so there's that...

endangeredomega


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I wish the colours on the pirate himself were perhaps a bit brighter. Currently he gets lost amid the dark shadows of the ship. My eye is drawn more to the sun than the figure or the ship, and I'm unsure if that was your intent? You've clearly put a lot of work in this, and it's a shame that the details seem to get muddied and blend together.

midgerock


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Spiritgreen wrote:Handsome design!

I'm not completely sold on this as a shirt, but as a digital painting it's awesome. The sense of volume is so strong this almost feels 3D. Very impressive lighting too.


I have to agree. lovely illustration and digital painting but not a very wearable design. the sun is the focal point because of its brightness and not the ship and pirate which should be focal point and its kind all over the shirt like a air brush painted shirt you buy at an amusement park. Believe me its well done but not for a shirt. and this is just my take but he looks a bit like Jack Sparrow which for a no pop culture ruled derby is a bit much.

dreadwood


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Worth the wait. I really don't know what to say. Beautiful.

dreadwood


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midgerock wrote:He looks a bit like Jack Sparrow which for a no pop culture ruled derby is a bit much.


In my opinion it would be hard to draw a non-silly pirate that doesn't look like Jack Sparrow. He's kind of a stereotypical pirate.

bpeterson82


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Can I order this on a canvas for my wall? Seriously!!!!!

captainbaldie


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You have a lot of skill for sure, but I think you should really start working on your concepts and compositions more. You usually just depict the derby theme with a whirlwind of halftones, and the majority ohhhs and ahhhs, but frankly, I find your work incredibly boring as is. I don't expect you to care much, as your designs see prints quite often around here, but I still thought my two cents would be worth something.

bassanimation


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First off, this is made of two parts badass, and one part hellyeah! Super wonderful job with the painterly style, Patrick! I always know to expect the best with your work.

I would like to echo a few of the other critiques going on in a couple ways. I do agree that the pirate gets a touch lost there at the top. The sunset is so bright and lovely to look at that your eye kind of misses the scurvy fellow up there on the ship. I think you might could have used some of the orange in the sunset for his rim lighting. That would have brought the eye more towards him. Maybe just on his hat and forearm.

Also I might have added a touch of color to his clothing. Perhaps just a little gold on the buttons of his jacket/belt buckle/sword hilt to help it look more interesting. (not too much though, as his grey look makes him nice and seaworthy and manly ^_^)

Overall this is awesome. You know what you're doing, dude! Im currently taking some courses to help me understand digital painting. I can only pine to be a fraction as good as you are at this stuff. :D

Andy47240


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This is amazing. Happy to vote for it.



jsee1218


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captainbaldie wrote:You have a lot of skill for sure, but I think you should really start working on your concepts and compositions more. You usually just depict the derby theme with a whirlwind of halftones, and the majority ohhhs and ahhhs, but frankly, I find your work incredibly boring as is. I don't expect you to care much, as your designs see prints quite often around here, but I still thought my two cents would be worth something.


Your two cents would be worth something if you would tell the designer why you find their work boring. Perhaps throw something constructive out there like "I think you've overused the halftones in x and y parts of the design" or even "I think there are too many shadows and the colors need to pop a little more". Anything but just "It's boring". The designer can't use that to help refine their work. And I've noticed a lot of the designers around here enjoy getting feedback on their designs, especially if it's constructive. So throw something else out there. "It's boring" simply won't work.

jfsiv


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captainbaldie


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jsee1218 wrote:Your two cents would be worth something if you would tell the designer why you find their work boring. Perhaps throw something constructive out there like "I think you've overused the halftones in x and y parts of the design" or even "I think there are too many shadows and the colors need to pop a little more". Anything but just "It's boring". The designer can't use that to help refine their work. And I've noticed a lot of the designers around here enjoy getting feedback on their designs, especially if it's constructive. So throw something else out there. "It's boring" simply won't work.


I said why I find it boring. The theme is pirates and he made a pirate on a pirate ship. He usually just depicts the theme as bluntly and uniformly as possible. It's a piece of concept art on a shirt for all intents and purposes. I also mentioned that his concepts and composition need some serious work in my opinion.

jagendorf


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Why does the design have to be more than just a pirate on a pirate ship? Patrickspens has the artistic chops to create something beautiful that is at its base so simple. Not everything has to be funny or cute to be printed on Woot.

Bilyum it up all day long!

jsee1218


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captainbaldie wrote:I said why I find it boring. The theme is pirates and he made a pirate on a pirate ship. He usually just depicts the theme as bluntly and uniformly as possible. It's a piece of concept art on a shirt for all intents and purposes. I also mentioned that his concepts and composition need some serious work in my opinion.


And there's something wrong with a pirate on a pirate ship for a pirate themed derby? Can you expand on what you think the designer could do to help his concepts and composition? Some detail would be nice.
From what I gather from your post, all you're telling the designer is essentially "the way you interpreted the derby theme is boring". What would you have the designer do differently? This is the constructive criticism I was talking about that your post lacks.

citizencoyote


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captainbaldie wrote:I said why I find it boring. The theme is pirates and he made a pirate on a pirate ship. He usually just depicts the theme as bluntly and uniformly as possible. It's a piece of concept art on a shirt for all intents and purposes. I also mentioned that his concepts and composition need some serious work in my opinion.


Personally I don't find this to be a wearable design myself, but I also find it gorgeous and an excellent example of digital painting. I think there is room to criticize Patrick's work, but saying all his designs depict the theme bluntly and uniformly is really harsh. Acquired Taste and Escape are just two examples of shirts of his that do not fit that description.

jsee1218


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jsee1218 wrote:And there's something wrong with a pirate on a pirate ship for a pirate themed derby? Can you expand on what you think the designer could do to help his concepts and composition? Some detail would be nice.
From what I gather from your post, all you're telling the designer is essentially "the way you interpreted the derby theme is boring". What would you have the designer do differently? This is the constructive criticism I was talking about that your post lacks.


P.S. See bassanimation's comments on this design. That is constructive criticism.

wickedwench


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What is this and why is it not on my body :3

tryel


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Best design I have ever seen submitted, great job.

lisonallie


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duuuude spens.
hot damn.

piwerx


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I think it's interesting in that--possibly--the stronger a design is, the stronger the response!! (e.g: boring.. hate it.. love it, etc.).

My designs never get hate-mail/comments. Read: they're too boring or lower quality, blah blah.

Having said all that, I agree with Bass in that if the sails were translucent, or 'lighter', maybe the color of the setting sun, you'd have a better balance around Capt. Jack up on the stern, or catshead. Nice skull, btw.

Awesome, I think it's wearable.

piwerx


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piwerx wrote:


...a better balance around Capt. Jack up on the stern, or catshead. Nice skull, btw.

Awesome, I think it's wearable.


Is it the bow? idk.

captainbaldie


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jsee1218 wrote:And there's something wrong with a pirate on a pirate ship for a pirate themed derby? Can you expand on what you think the designer could do to help his concepts and composition? Some detail would be nice.
From what I gather from your post, all you're telling the designer is essentially "the way you interpreted the derby theme is boring". What would you have the designer do differently? This is the constructive criticism I was talking about that your post lacks.


I'm saying that the artist typically justs illustrates the theme on a base level, and that is what makes it boring to me. While technically very proficent, I personally find most of this artist's work that he submits here devoid of an kind of style or trademark.
In mention his composition because I can't really recall a design of his that looks like it was anything more than an illustration put on a shirt.

This is totally just my personal opinion, and I apologize if I didn't get my point across before. My recomendation for the artist is to possibly try experimenting with difrent styles, and thinking more outside of the box with his compositions. I believe if he could pair up some more creativity with his technically skill, I'd find myself liking his work a lot more.

Christiebunny


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Spiritgreen wrote:Handsome design!

I'm not completely sold on this as a shirt, but as a digital painting it's awesome. The sense of volume is so strong this almost feels 3D. Very impressive lighting too.


they REALLY should offer all these shirts as hi-res wallpapers

jsee1218


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captainbaldie wrote:I'm saying that the artist typically justs illustrates the theme on a base level, and that is what makes it boring to me. While technically very proficent, I personally find most of this artist's work that he submits here devoid of an kind of style or trademark.
In mention his composition because I can't really recall a design of his that looks like it was anything more than an illustration put on a shirt.

This is totally just my personal opinion, and I apologize if I didn't get my point across before. My recomendation for the artist is to possibly try experimenting with difrent styles, and thinking more outside of the box with his compositions. I believe if he could pair up some more creativity with his technically skill, I'd find myself liking his work a lot more.


Ah, gotcha. Your original post seemed, to me, to be very harsh and unfair. I felt I just had to defend the design because I find it to be so breathtaking. Looking back on what I've written, it kinda sounds like I'm trying to get a rise out of you or something, but that wasn't my intention. I think designers need more comments like the one I'm quoting now because it helps them recognize their strengths and weaknesses. It helps them grow. I apologize if I sounded like a complete and total jerk in my posts yesterday. It really wasn't my intention.

lisonallie


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spens do you have a deviantart or a place where we can view your masterpieces?

bluetuba


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You know, I appreciate the direct approach sometimes. People are so quick to wedge cute animals, pop culture references, nerd jokes, or something into every single theme regardless of relevance. It's nice to see a great pirate on a pirate ship in the pirate derby.

I do agree with some of the criticism that the pirate could stick out more with a little color and it DOES look a little like an airbrushing on a tee shirt. But I think they are minor quibbles, it's a damn awesome pirate ship.

bassanimation


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bluetuba wrote:You know, I appreciate the direct approach sometimes. People are so quick to wedge cute animals, pop culture references, nerd jokes, or something into every single theme regardless of relevance. It's nice to see a great pirate on a pirate ship in the pirate derby.


I have to say that I see both arguments to the whole concept issue. While some may think a classic pirate on a classic ship is boring, it illustrates the theme perfectly. It is also a strikingly lovely example of the theme. Sometimes people want a clear example of an idea instead of something out in left field. It all depends on what you like most in an idea ^_^.

Patrick's work has spanned just about every single style I can think of since I've been here. Dude can draw just about anything, in any style. If I were to follow his thought process for this piece, I imagine he figured there'd be a lot of cute animals and jokes to contend with. A gritty, old fashioned sea dog might stand out in the crowd, and indeed it does.

Amiright?? -nudge nudge-

Also you can view some of Patrick's other works here at his blog. I visit it often!!!

Patrick's blog

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citizencoyote wrote:Personally I don't find this to be a wearable design myself, but I also find it gorgeous and an excellent example of digital painting. I think there is room to criticize Patrick's work, but saying all his designs depict the theme bluntly and uniformly is really harsh. Acquired Taste and Escape are just two examples of shirts of his that do not fit that description.



I'm on the fence about wearability. The focal point is where the fabric would fold and obscure the sunset on me. On the other hand that would mean that your attention is not drawn away from Blackbeard (yes it is clearly Blackbeard and not Sparrow) which would help prevent him from being missed.

I am happy not to see an other bad pun shirt in this derby. There are sadly few just plain awesome designs in a derby that seemed to encourage them.

thewronggrape


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Wow. Really well done, but I wouldn't be able to wear this because it's really straightforward and seems to just say "I'm really into pirates" or "I'm really into those POTC movies" neither of which I am.

Westlyftw


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I REALLY like the shirt, but I can understand some of the comments thinking the design is pedestrian in a lot of respects. It basically looks like something that could be inside a "ARRR PIRATES!" picture book or something, and doesn't seem to be a piece designed specifically for a tee.

Me, I'm totally cool with it, and I find similar examples with a lot of the stuff two of my favorites around here do, Dead Frog and Drakxxx. While I find both of those guys to have a more inherent style in their work, both typical make designs that look like they should go in books or be covers of books. Drakxxx stuff typically induces nightmares though.

Anyways, great shirt, voted for it.

tangolite132


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Woah. o.o
Thumbs up for yhuu! d(^_^)o

It's so detailed; it's much better than mine. xD
If I bought something, I would defiantly vote for you. [I still haven't bought anything? What is this?! /).-)]

"Riddle me this, riddle me that: who's afraid of the big black bat?"

tangolite132


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Woah. o.o
Thumbs up for yhuu! d(^_^)o

It's so detailed; it's much better than mine. xD
If I bought something, I would defiantly vote for you. [I still haven't bought anything? What is this?! /).-)]

"Riddle me this, riddle me that: who's afraid of the big black bat?"

expo01


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Stunning work , you are very talented and I always enjoy your entries very much , congrats.

mhodges


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I love the design, great work as usual but I can't vote for it because literally I don't want one.

I would want one if it were on the back of the T with a smaller pocket design (maybe a pirate flag or such) on the front.

I'm just not a fan of large art pieces on Ts.

batgirl801


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I would vote for this forty time if I could. Wonderfully executed, it is so beautiful.

ApeLad


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lisonallie wrote:spens do you have a deviantart or a place where we can view your masterpieces?


I'm fairly certain he doesn't read the forums. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Jussslic


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Since this design is stirring the pot a bit I'll add my own opinion... it's an OK digital painting.

Really good compared to what Woot often sees, but have you guys ever been to Conceptart.org?

Haha, if some of the artists over at CA were aware they could make a thousand dollars a week I bet we'd see more badass paintings in the fog...

4khaos


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Jussslic wrote:Since this design is stirring the pot a bit I'll add my own opinion... it's an OK digital painting.

Really good compared to what Woot often sees, but have you guys ever been to Conceptart.org?

Haha, if some of the artists over at CA were aware they could make a thousand dollars a week I bet we'd see more badass paintings in the fog...

You can't seriously compare shirt designs to concept art because there's no 6-colour limit and no need to use halftones to achieve gradients...

Patrick has put some pretty artistic and visually striking stuff onto shirts, and I think that takes talent. I might not want to wear all of them (not much of a fan on huge designs) but I can certainly appreciate them. And I definitely like this shirt more than poorly-depicted horrible puns.

omarfeliciano


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Jussslic wrote:Since this design is tirring the pot a bit I'll add my own opinion... it's an OK digital painting.

Really good compared to what Woot often sees, but have you guys ever been to Conceptart.org?

Haha, if some of the artists over at CA were aware they could make a thousand dollars a week I bet we'd see more badass paintings in the fog...


Either you are a huge troll or just plain ignorant. You can't compare the digital art you see in that site to the shirt designs you see here.

First: I am pretty sure 98% of all that digital art is not created in a span of 24 hours, most of them don't even have a deadline. Artist can work on their art for days, weeks and even months before showing it there.

Second: Here, you have to worry about layers, color separation, 6 color limit, halftone workability, shirt color limitation and theme.

Third: Have you seen Patrick's blog? I'm pretty sure his work could easily fit in that website.

(To everybody else) I wish I had Patrick's ability to conceptualize, design, sketch, paint, halftone and submit this type of artwork in a derby every week. Sure, he's not perfect, but come on people, stop with the bashing! He's given us amazing shirts for the past few years. You don't like this particular design for some reason? Perfect, that's your right. But don't try to stone the artist to death because of it.

Nightshooter


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very nicely done =]

leprechaungirl


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This is awesome as usual!!! How you do so much with only six colors, I'll never know!

leprechaungirl


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bassanimation wrote:I have to say that I see both arguments to the whole concept issue. While some may think a classic pirate on a classic ship is boring, it illustrates the theme perfectly. It is also a strikingly lovely example of the theme. Sometimes people want a clear example of an idea instead of something out in left field. It all depends on what you like most in an idea ^_^.

Patrick's work has spanned just about every single style I can think of since I've been here. Dude can draw just about anything, in any style. If I were to follow his thought process for this piece, I imagine he figured there'd be a lot of cute animals and jokes to contend with. A gritty, old fashioned sea dog might stand out in the crowd, and indeed it does.

Amiright?? -nudge nudge-

Also you can view some of Patrick's other works here at his blog. I visit it often!!!

Patrick's blog


You're absolutely right!!! :D You always express your opinion in the best way. It's always thoughtful and kind while still being constructive. I always find myself agreeing with you! I've long thought you're the nicest person to frequent the derby

Patrick's designs are sometimes basically the base of the theme but he always executes them in extraordinary ways. I agree that the Pirate and ship could use a few small, bright details to add a little deapth but the fact that he kind of flows into the ship makes it feel like the pirate and ship are two pieces of one whole. Plus, at the end of the day pirates are dark characters. This design makes that obvious.

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