Derby #245: Poetry Illustrated
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....On A Snowy Evening

....On A Snowy Evening
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anamya


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Stopping By Woods On A Snowy Evening

The halftone took out some of the subtleties, because I did it backwards. It was pretty fun to draw, but the halftone part was not. >_<

alex138


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anamya


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alex138 wrote:I love this image!


Thanks hon. It's my first derby entry. :D

JRSly


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Ahh, I was thinking about doing something for this poem, but I don't think I could top this. Well done!

aerc712


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Have to admit I don't know the poem, but the design you came up with is beautiful. Nice job!

shikausstan


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I am impressed that this is your first entry!

anamya


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shikausstan wrote:I am impressed that this is your first entry!


Thank you!

The version on black reads a little better. I think my brain will explode if I try adding a little color to the black and white version, though. I am probably going to just finish it into a real painting and post it on DeviantART. I had a ton of fun drawing it.

Photoshop is being mean, though. I don't think it should lag with 6g of ram. Keeps crashing on bigger files too. >_<

orabbit


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Can I make a suggestion? Why do Photoshop people insist on generating halftones? Woot can do this on their end and do a much better job. I'm a screen printer, and the halftones from a RIP are much cleaner, not to mention I know what LPI I can print.

Krisis86


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NICE. This is awesome. I adore this poem and I hope it prints!!

anamya


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orabbit wrote:Can I make a suggestion? Why do Photoshop people insist on generating halftones? Woot can do this on their end and do a much better job. I'm a screen printer, and the halftones from a RIP are much cleaner, not to mention I know what LPI I can print.


We do it because woot requires us to. Believe me, if I didn't have to, I wouldn't. You are only allowed six colors total on an image. (Plus negative space of shirt color.)

I don't understand why illustrator users aren't required to though. They are supposed to leave the gradients in. Doesn't make any sense to me.

orabbit


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anamya wrote:We do it because woot requires us to. Believe me, if I didn't have to, I wouldn't. You are only allowed six colors total on an image. (Plus negative space of shirt color.)

I don't understand why illustrator users aren't required to though. They are supposed to leave the gradients in. Doesn't make any sense to me.


Are you sure Woot requires you to?

Illustrator uses spot color, which is equivalent to the ink color you want to use. You can specify a percentage of this spot color, 0% being no color, and 100% being solid color. A gradient is a blend from 0%-100%. This is output to a film through software called a RIP. Its sole purpose is to generate halftones from these percentages. It is quite costly, usually around $500. It can also generate halftones from a Photoshop file, if it is saved as a multi-channel DCS file. Each layer, saved as a channel, is assigned a different spot color. Same principle when sent to the RIP.

The thing is, if you don't know what you're doing, it's easy to end up with something called moire. Say you use an arbitrary LPI of 52. If they then print on a mesh with 156 threads per inch, you get interference (52 * 3 = 156, which is bad).

Also, I've seen people use unattractive angles such as 90 degrees for their halftones.

And thirdly, anything over 60 LPI is too fine for screen printing. And under 10% or over 90% isn't printable either. I could go on.

I don't understand why Woot wouldn't want control over how halftones are generated. The designer could specify whether they want dots or lines, but beyond that, the printer knows best.

End of two cents.

orabbit


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By the way, it's a beautiful image. GMV.

anamya


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Thanks for the support everyone!

Orabbit:
https://shirt.woot.com/Member/ContestUpload.aspx
Left side, midway down. 6 colors and must have halftones.
If you would like to team up, I would LOVE to just be able to do the art and not worry about the halftones part. Woot resizes for the kid sized shirts though, so some of the finest detail is lost if you get TOO fine with the halftones. So they cannot print something that looks like a full range of colors, such as a photo via cmyk, the mesh isn't fine enough. At least that's how I understand it. If you can work your magic to make the halftones look right as-is, I would gladly split the prize. (Not that I will be winning on my second derby, either. Heh.)

My email is this same name at gmail, if you'd like to discuss the next derby. I could always use design ideas also. Just let me know if we're going to do that next week, so I can plan on it. If I have a good idea, I want to try two different design styles. It took me twice as long to do the halftones and comp as it did to draw the art. :/

Sorry, rambled a bit there.

orabbit


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anamya wrote:Thanks for the support everyone!

Orabbit:
https://shirt.woot.com/Member/ContestUpload.aspx
Left side, midway down. 6 colors and must have halftones.
If you would like to team up, I would LOVE to just be able to do the art and not worry about the halftones part. Woot resizes for the kid sized shirts though, so some of the finest detail is lost if you get TOO fine with the halftones. So they cannot print something that looks like a full range of colors, such as a photo via cmyk, the mesh isn't fine enough. At least that's how I understand it. If you can work your magic to make the halftones look right as-is, I would gladly split the prize. (Not that I will be winning on my second derby, either. Heh.)

My email is this same name at gmail, if you'd like to discuss the next derby. I could always use design ideas also. Just let me know if we're going to do that next week, so I can plan on it. If I have a good idea, I want to try two different design styles. It took me twice as long to do the halftones and comp as it did to draw the art. :/

Sorry, rambled a bit there.


Sorry to clog up your page with this, but I would love to get others in th discussion. I don't read that as you must use halftones, just IF you use halftones, here are the guidelines.

Is there a more general forum area?

anamya


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orabbit wrote:Sorry to clog up your page with this, but I would love to get others in th discussion. I don't read that as you must use halftones, just IF you use halftones, here are the guidelines.

Is there a more general forum area?


http://shirt.woot.com/Forums/ViewForum.aspx?ForumID=39

I would be happy to join you in a discussion there. Of course you don't HAVE to use halftones, but you can only have six colors maximum, if you don't use them.

epicfal


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shikausstan wrote:I am impressed that this is your first entry!


Me too! I absolutely love the way you did the trees in the foreground using the shirt color, so it looks less like "picture on a shirt" and more like "looking through the woods". (I'm not really an art critic, so you'll have to pardon my lack of words. Point is, I like.)

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