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crazyharry wrote:Those are so totally penguins hiding behind that round bush/flower thing. Naw, I like it, so I'm not going to say anything. We'll just keep this between you and me... and whoever might read this post. It's almost like something I would buy, especially if I could afford to buy t-shirts right now.

Baby ninja chick samuri penguin hybrid, I think

Re: Windy Rain

nice idea. i like the sun's face

tallworm wrote:I'm new to all this. Is there usually this much controversy? Seems like alot this week.

Just from one or two people with multiple accounts.

parkermc wrote:First of all, I'm not going to call you mean. You didn't do any rejecting. But you did bolster my point. While melting snowmen may bear a striking resemblance in thematic material, this design had ZERO melting snowmen. It was the anticipation of the event that made this shirt unique. It's easy to show an event. It takes talent to project emotion at an impending event, particularly on snow. The ultimate irony is that the printed snowmen design was publicly called out over a 12 page thread for being an utter rip-off of previously existing work on other sites.
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OK, let's try to look at this even remotely objectively. I'll call them (A) and (B) for the previous and current entry, respectively.

Can we agree that A and B involved snowmen?

Justification: (Surely I don't have to justify this one.)

Can we agree that A and B involve snowmen and their fear of mortality?

Justification:

A - One snowman dying, with a face that screams pain. One snowman hurriedly "running" away to avoid the same death.
B - Three snowmen "standing" around, seeing a flower on the ground, horrified that they now know their time is short and that they will soon perish in a snowman's version of armageddon. One snowman covers her eyes because she can't face the facts, one faints from the stress, and one has a scream of terror on his face concerned with their impending doom. All three snowmen are specifically showing reactions to their mortality and impending doom.

If the two descriptions above are correct, then the two entries are at least largely based on snowmen and their fear of mortality.

Can we really be having an argument that this is not the main subject for both pieces, without delving into the quality of expressions, or a melting snowmen, a sun, a flower, previous controversies, other designs, etc.?

bluchez wrote:OK, let's try to look at this even remotely objectively. I'll call them (A) and (B) for the previous and current entry, respectively.

Can we agree that A and B involved snowmen?

Justification: (Surely I don't have to justify this one.)

Can we agree that A and B involve snowmen and their fear of mortality?

Justification:

A - One snowman dying, with a face that screams pain. One snowman hurriedly "running" away to avoid the same death.
B - Three snowmen "standing" around, seeing a flower on the ground, horrified that they now know their time is short and that they will soon perish in a snowman's version of armageddon. One snowman covers her eyes because she can't face the facts, one faints from the stress, and one has a scream of terror on his face concerned with their impending doom. All three snowmen are specifically showing reactions to their mortality and impending doom.

If the two descriptions above are correct, then the two entries are at least largely based on snowmen and their fear of mortality.

Can we really be having an argument that this is not the main subject for both pieces, without delving into the quality of expressions, or a melting snowmen, a sun, a flower, previous controversies, other designs, etc.?

You make very excellent points.
Nicely done.

Re: Spriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing

Better than your skull flower shirt, thats for sure. voted.

sparklzk27 wrote:thanks

yea thats what i figured, after the rejected the second one, its a shame i thought it was funny... not saying yours isnt either.

But congrats on staying in!

hope to see you get up closer to the top!

thedansterwashere wrote:My reasoning behind this is to show a dark tree strugling through winter with a dark and somewhat gloomy sky. I wanted windows or boxes (pockets...maybe not the best word choice, sorry) to show the spring equivalent. The tree now the old sky color to show more life. The sky now light blue and bright showing contrast. The birds came later as a fairly random idea. I wanted them to embody the pocket showing spring returning as they returned (which wouldn't let me use box or window in the title). I wish I had added more leaves and blossoms but I just didn't have enough spare time. I also think that it may have subtracted from the fact that the tree continued through the pocket in the exact position.

The definition I imagined for the pocket reference could be explained by the definition from dictionary.com...
7. pock•et - noun - any isolated group, area, element, etc., contrasted, as in status or condition, with a surrounding element or group: pockets of resistance; a pocket of poverty in the central city.

Sorry for the freakin long boring comment

It's a beautiful shirt and I truly hope it makes it. I swear, unless you really enjoy shirts with bears, zombies, and overall ridiculous creatures on them, woot generally isn't the place for you -- or in this case, me.

Hopefully you can bring more shirt designs that people can actually wear without trying to be funny or outrageous. I hope to see more derby entries from you!

bluchez wrote:If the two descriptions above are correct, then the two entries are at least largely based on snowmen and their fear of mortality

Flowers and their growth in Spring
Tired bears waking up
Melted snowmen
Greenmen
Butterflies
Flowers where their stems are springs
and
Scared snowmen

All of these topics I listed have more than one shirt with the same elements. It's the details that set them all apart and make them individual.
Worse yet, if one of the tired bears waking up places higher than the other, does that mean the other one will get rejected? Or will both be printed?

sokowa wrote:Flowers and their growth in Spring
Tired bears waking up
Melted snowmen
Greenmen
Butterflies
Flowers where their stems are springs
and
Scared snowmen

All of these topics I listed have more than one shirt with the same elements. It's the details that set them all apart and make them individual.
Worse yet, if one of the tired bears waking up places higher than the other, does that mean the other one will get rejected? Or will both be printed?

eh well, I'm done with this topic now, I've said what I could. It's gotten muddled and there's no control over it anyway.

sokowa wrote:Flowers and their growth in Spring
Tired bears waking up
Melted snowmen
Greenmen
Butterflies
Flowers where their stems are springs
and
Scared snowmen

All of these topics I listed have more than one shirt with the same elements. It's the details that set them all apart and make them individual.
Worse yet, if one of the tired bears waking up places higher than the other, does that mean the other one will get rejected? Or will both be printed?

Is your piece focused on the mortality of snowmen and their fear of it?
Is the earlier printed shirt focused on the mortality of snowmen and their fear of it?
Are any of the shrirts you listed based on the mortality of snowmen and their fear of it?

It's a specific theme, that has been printed by woot. We aren't discussing two entries having similar content in one derby, or generic "themeless" shirts like flowers, trees, butterflies, etc, we are talking about a current shirt, a previously printed shirt by woot, and a very similar theme.

Sorry, but I feel it is important to break it down into this specific case, because studying multiple cases convoludes the whole discussion. The "but all my friends are doing it" argument just doesn't hold enough water in the legal or business worlds to me.

sigaru wrote:the design is cute, but....is that a real shirt color?

It's probably supposed to be Grass Green...which is a shirt color Woot uses, just not very often.

Some Grass tees:

http://shirt.woot.com/Friends.aspx?k=4840

http://shirt.woot.com/Friends.aspx?k=4602

http://shirt.woot.com/Friends.aspx?k=4523

This shirt does look brighter, especially since it doesn't look like an official Woot shirt comp, but I'm sure Woot would use Grass if it got printed.

bluchez wrote:Is your piece focused on the mortality of snowmen and their fear of it?
Is the earlier printed shirt focused on the mortality of snowmen and their fear of it?
Are any of the shrirts you listed based on the mortality of snowmen and their fear of it?

It's a specific theme, that has been printed by woot. We aren't discussing two entries having similar content in one derby, or generic "themeless" shirts like flowers, trees, butterflies, etc, we are talking about a current shirt, a previously printed shirt by woot, and a very similar theme.

So its because of a specific theme... So woot can never have a Spring themed derby again? or this winter we can not have a winter themed shirt? or Lets say this christmas woot can not print a christmas themed shirt cause last christams we got a woot shirt that was specific to christmas?

Amach06 wrote:So its because of a specific theme... So woot can never have a Spring themed derby again? or this winter we can not have a winter themed shirt? or Lets say this christmas woot can not print a christmas themed shirt cause last christams we got a woot shirt that was specific to christmas?

Heaven forbid there be multiple scopes of the word "theme"? A very specific shirt theme being rejected, like say "Flying Penguins" or "Snowmen fearful of death", to be so blown out of proportion to apply to "flowers", "winter", "spring", or "xmas" is very sound and reasonable. Thanks for your input, it is plenty to make me not respond on the topic again.

Re: What Spring means to Me Round 2

Thanks, everyone! I can be dense sometimes! I was in such a rush that all my mind focused on was the BIG SPRING I had in the orginal shirt. I completely forgot to remove the other words on the images. I think I will just wait for the next round. I will def. be entering again, though.

SailorButterfly wrote:It's probably supposed to be Grass Green...which is a shirt color Woot uses, just not very often.

Some Grass tees:

http://shirt.woot.com/Friends.aspx?k=4840

http://shirt.woot.com/Friends.aspx?k=4602

http://shirt.woot.com/Friends.aspx?k=4523

This shirt does look brighter, especially since it doesn't look like an official Woot shirt comp, but I'm sure Woot would use Grass if it got printed.

YAY on the last one you linked. =D

My Norwegian heritage forces me to vote for this <grin>. Cute!

Re: Spriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing

Thanks guys, my wife and I actually worked pretty hard to come up with the skull flower shirt idea. This springy one was one of my first ideas, for some reason those always do better. It's very strange. I think maybe it's a lesson in not thinking, and just doing what comes to mind.

physicalmishap wrote:Ya had to throw that in there to be rude and insulting? I LIKE THE SHIRT! It just isn't MY idea of spring. Also I don't think there is imagination in interpretation. The imagining has already been done, now we get whatever out of it that hits us the most. The zombie hand hits me the most. It is a very well designed shirt and I would buy it, so there

Let's all unite under the zombie hand coming out of a spring garden and sell it out when it wins first! I have already claimed my 2 men's mediums.

Re: Zombie Garden

I created a woot account and bought a shirt especially so I could vote on this shirt--it's AWESOME! Great work, Skaght!

Krystinn wrote:I created a woot account and bought a shirt especially so I could vote on this shirt--it's AWESOME! Great work, Skaght!

*blushes* aw shucks. thanks.

narkus wrote:do you have a greyhound too? i have 3 : ) and i LOVE Edgar's work. i wish this were getting printed. This, ELS's girl, and dekonstruct's bunny and boy are my fav's this derby.

Thanks! =D

Krystinn wrote:I created a woot account and bought a shirt especially so I could vote on this shirt--it's AWESOME! Great work, Skaght!

I hope you found a shirt you loved(which one? which one?)... just fyi to any other newbies lurking... you can frequently buy something super cheap from woot.com or sellout.woot to get voting in here as well!

sailstud25 wrote:I hope you found a shirt you loved(which one? which one?)... just fyi to any other newbies lurking... you can frequently buy something super cheap from woot.com or sellout.woot to get voting in here as well!

Today's $.99 two-fer is still for sale on main.woot

Sandy81676 wrote:Thanks, everyone! I can be dense sometimes! I was in such a rush that all my mind focused on was the BIG SPRING I had in the orginal shirt. I completely forgot to remove the other words on the images. I think I will just wait for the next round. I will def. be entering again, though.

Good attitude! :-D Don't let the rejectorator bring you down...learn from mistakes and come back better than ever! ^^

Re: Explosive Growth

wow...amazing.... O.O

eyeslikesugar wrote:Today's $.99 two-fer is still for sale on main.woot

exactly

p.s. els, thanks for the pm, I'll get back to you soon, oh, and I voted for your girl... for my girl; would love to get it for her, but unless voting picks up... :-/
Great work anyway!

acutevt wrote:Thanks. Hopefully I can break the top 50! I just need enough votes for 3 more places!

Lovely username btw. That made me crack a smile.

Congratulations.. you made it!

Re: Spring-ATRON R.E.S.U.B. Mark 2 resub

I wish there were more flowers so it looked like he was running through a big meadow smashing buttlerflys

Love it anyway

Re: Here Comes The Sun (do do do do)

Some good t-shirting right there.

Re: Spriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing

This is faaantastic

Re: Pushing Up Tulips

Cute! I love gnomes!

I fell in love with the AAARrrrgyle (sp?) shirt--skulls crossbones and swords in an argyle pattern. AWESOME.

tallworm wrote:I'm new to all this. Is there usually this much controversy? Seems like alot this week.

Every single week. It never ends.

dekonstruct wrote:Thanks guys, my wife and I actually worked pretty hard to come up with the skull flower shirt idea. This springy one was one of my first ideas, for some reason those always do better. It's very strange. I think maybe it's a lesson in not thinking, and just doing what comes to mind.

I JUST looked at the Skull Flower design and i have to say... its amazing. Its funny when i am going threw the entries i sometimes pass up the good ones cause there little square does not do the whole image justice. Your is a perfect example. But the shirt is great. would totaly wear that one.

rglee129 wrote:Hey folks. Lots of empathetic posters have expressed sadness for the butterflies in the picture. Here are a couple of points I'd like to make.

-empathy is a virtue, first of all!
-the butterflies, however cramped, are fully intact and later go on to fly away (as the artist, I can say that, right?)
-the real victims are the flowers (yikes!) and the robot, who turned out to be programmed with crazy allergies

Thank you.

So is the Robot going to eventually crush them? Or does he just like collecting them? Cause i can't figure out if this shirt is girly or not? Its a great shirt either way.

sailstud25 wrote:exactly

p.s. els, thanks for the pm, I'll get back to you soon, oh, and I voted for your girl... for my girl; would love to get it for her, but unless voting picks up... :-/
Great work anyway!

Thanks! Every vote helps build one more block on to my self-esteem. ;)

Kidding. (maybe. =O)

And, I'll reply to your PM when I get home from work later =3

I like this shirt for a variety of reasons. Nice work!

Amach06 wrote:I JUST looked at the Skull Flower design and i have to say... its amazing. Its funny when i am going threw the entries i sometimes pass up the good ones cause there little square does not do the whole image justice. Your is a perfect example. But the shirt is great. would totaly wear that one.

Thanks! It's always a gamble when you're making those little thumbnails. It's hard to know what will attract people to your design, but I try to look at all of them during the derby.

dekonstruct wrote:Thanks! It's always a gamble when you're making those little thumbnails. It's hard to know what will attract people to your design, but I try to look at all of them during the derby.

Yea it has to be hard to pick whats going to be seen. Well to bad, cause both of your submissions are great.