jaywa


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In for one and proud that this is my first shirt.woot purchase.

ign22401


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Mmmmm.... very happy (and somewhat surprised) that this made it to second. Voting sure was TIGHT down the stretch.

Now the question is... do I buy one for myself, or one for my buddy who is an even bigger RISK freak than I am. HRMMMMMMM....

Congrats JC.

toochaos


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comeon nightmare on wallstreet, then its three for three and i will feel all warm inside for getting my first hatrick

kchiocca


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ohsnaparoomba wrote:I would have liked it better if it had some other historical villains. I mean, seriously, why leave out Idi Amin and Pol Pot? Let's be thorough, people!



Thats because these guys are not "villains."

kchiocca


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This shirt is so misguided...
The aim of communism is not global domination. That is best left the the imperialists/capitalists. Don't get me wrong- Marx, Lenin, and Che need to be on way more tee-shirts (excluding the Che shirts most suburban teenagers wear without knowing why), but this is not the way you do it.

kaptinss


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1. Does anyone know why the woot sites were down this morning?

2. I hope the grafitti shirt is tomorrow.

Biolink


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kchiocca wrote:This shirt is so misguided...
The aim of communism is not global domination. That is best left the the imperialists/capitalists. Don't get me wrong- Marx, Lenin, and Che need to be on way more tee-shirts (excluding the Che shirts most suburban teenagers wear without knowing why), but this is not the way you do it.



Nobody said anything about Communism being about Global Domination.Anyone with Common sense knows that.

It's just odd,that Most if not All Communist Governments are lead by insanely evil people,but really most of those Governments are not the kind Marx would approve of.Those Governments are actually closer to Dictatorships or Totalitarianisms.Communism really gets a bad rep,because the idiots who implement it are too damn greedy or too evil for their own good.

Biolink


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ohsnaparoomba wrote:Yeah. It's almost like there's something inherent in a state-dominated system that invites abuse, huh? Weird.



Yup.

Graye


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Biolink wrote:Nobody said anything about Communism being about Global Domination.Anyone with Common sense knows that.

It's just odd,that Most if not All Communist Governments are lead by insanely evil people,but really most of those Governments are not the kind Marx would approve of.Those Governments are actually closer to Dictatorships or Totalitarianisms.Communism really gets a bad rep,because the idiots who implement it are too damn greedy or too evil for their own good.



Partially but more so:

"Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff" - Frank Zappa

brizz


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bouncy bouncy!!! Congrats again cho!

Biolink


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Graye wrote:Partially but more so:

"Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff" - Frank Zappa



Yup basically xD

ghostsushi


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love it, cant bleive it hasnt sold out. in for one

amcatanzaro


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Last wooter to woot: amcatanzaro

Go me!

I wasn't going to stay up. Drat! Foiled again!

Travel in style! Travel in a Woot shirt!

bluchez


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ghostsushi wrote:love it, cant bleive it hasnt sold out. in for one



I think the fact that woot servers were down during at least one and a half hours of the prime buying time probably had a lot to do with the late sellout, but it did make it.

Congrats to the artist!

sunny57


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detaer wrote:This shirt is missing george bush. If he was on there I would buy it.



Bush, playing Risk? Talk about epic I am an un-original person.

bosu


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frak, wish I checked this site earlier. Epic shirt.

kchiocca


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Biolink wrote:Nobody said anything about Communism being about Global Domination.Anyone with Common sense knows that.

It's just odd,that Most if not All Communist Governments are lead by insanely evil people,but really most of those Governments are not the kind Marx would approve of.Those Governments are actually closer to Dictatorships or Totalitarianisms.Communism really gets a bad rep,because the idiots who implement it are too damn greedy or too evil for their own good.



Common sense would lead one to believe that if a shirt shows Communists playing Risk, which is a game OF global domination, they are implying that that is the said aim of those Communists. If the connection was not meant to be made, the artist should have depicted a random assortment of historical figures playing Risk OR the Communists, Marx included, engaged in some other activity- like implementing socialism.

bluchez


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kchiocca wrote:Common sense would lead one to believe that if a shirt shows Communists playing Risk, which is a game OF global domination, they are implying that that is the said aim of those Communists. If the connection was not meant to be made, the artist should have depicted a random assortment of historical figures playing Risk OR the Communists, Marx included, engaged in some other activity- like implementing socialism.



OK, from this line of reasoning, I am going to assume that Tony the Tiger's depiction on Frosted Flakes implies that everyone who eats the breakfast cereal will eventually begin stalking antelope. In fact, I would only be able to assume that males who eat the cereal will become quite territorial, and fight other males for prey and females. Or, maybe I'm thinking about this waaaaaaaaaaaaaay to in depth, and it was just supposed to be a humorous mascot for cereal, not really sure.

geekfactor12


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kchiocca wrote:Common sense would lead one to believe that if a shirt shows Communists playing Risk, which is a game OF global domination, they are implying that that is the said aim of those Communists. If the connection was not meant to be made, the artist should have depicted a random assortment of historical figures playing Risk OR the Communists, Marx included, engaged in some other activity- like implementing socialism.



Oh no, I've played Risk! Australia, beware!

kchiocca


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bluchez wrote:OK, from this line of reasoning, I am going to assume that Tony the Tiger's depiction on Frosted Flakes implies that everyone who eats the breakfast cereal will eventually begin stalking antelope. In fact, I would only be able to assume that males who eat the cereal will become quite territorial, and fight other males for prey and females. Or, maybe I'm thinking about this waaaaaaaaaaaaaay to in depth, and it was just supposed to be a humorous mascot for cereal, not really sure.



All I wanted to point out was that its a shame that when Communists are finally depicted as not on par with I have a poor concept of history, its either inaccurate, or as you point out, a joke. I happen to believe that its a shame, but I'm not asking you to agree. I'm just asking you not compare Communism being made the butt of a joke to breakfast cereal. Do you see a dead antelope on the box of frosted flakes--no. But I see two men who I greatly admire being depicted somehow moving into and taking over America, and I just don't consider it funny. I'm not trying to ruin anyone's fun; I'm just saying that there are comments being made about Communists being "historical villains" and "misguided" men, and I was just disagreeing.

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Congrats on the sellout James. Surprised it took this long. Great shirt.

Graye


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kchiocca wrote:All I wanted to point out was that its a shame that when Communists are finally depicted as not on par with I have a poor concept of history, its either inaccurate, or as you point out, a joke. I happen to believe that its a shame, but I'm not asking you to agree. I'm just asking you not compare Communism being made the butt of a joke to breakfast cereal. Do you see a dead antelope on the box of frosted flakes--no. But I see two men who I greatly admire being depicted somehow moving into and taking over America, and I just don't consider it funny. I'm not trying to ruin anyone's fun; I'm just saying that there are comments being made about Communists being "historical villains" and "misguided" men, and I was just disagreeing.



*shrug* To each their own. I couldn't find myself admiring a person who believes that the solution to the social problems in governments is to take everything away from everyone, putting them all at near poverty levels, while those that govern "know better" than the general populous and live in luxury.

But I guess calling it communism is a bit more glorified than slavery.

bluchez


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kchiocca wrote:All I wanted to point out was that its a shame that when Communists are finally depicted as not on par with I have a poor concept of history, its either inaccurate, or as you point out, a joke. I happen to believe that its a shame, but I'm not asking you to agree. I'm just asking you not compare Communism being made the butt of a joke to breakfast cereal. Do you see a dead antelope on the box of frosted flakes--no. But I see two men who I greatly admire being depicted somehow moving into and taking over America, and I just don't consider it funny. I'm not trying to ruin anyone's fun; I'm just saying that there are comments being made about Communists being "historical villains" and "misguided" men, and I was just disagreeing.



IT IS A BOARD GAME!!!! If it had been monopoly, would you have been pissed that they were being depicted trying to buy railroads?

Graye


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bluchez wrote:IT IS A BOARD GAME!!!! If it had been monopoly, would you have been pissed that they were being depicted trying to buy railroads?



probably =P

kchiocca


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Graye wrote:probably =P



I'm so glad you felt like answering for me!
First of all, communism--->not at all the same as slavery. And for the record, it was AMERICA that practiced slavery, and still does in many ways (i.e. wage slavery).
Second, if they had been playing Monopoly, they would be pretty pathetic Communists. And if they had been playing, say, chess or poker, the shirt would have been pretty useless. There is an obvious reason why the artist chose the game he chose. If anyone thinks its just because, "oh, Risk is a fun game," they are missing the bigger picture. Essentially, Westerners have their idea of communism, and that will never change. McCarthyism is so deeply ingrained in today's society. It doesn't mean I'm going to be okay with you insinuating that I condone slavery, by any name.

bluchez


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kchiocca wrote:Second, if they had been playing Monopoly, they would be pretty pathetic Communists. And if they had been playing, say, chess or poker, the shirt would have been pretty useless. There is an obvious reason why the artist chose the game he chose. If anyone thinks its just because, "oh, Risk is a fun game," they are missing the bigger picture. Essentially, Westerners have their idea of communism, and that will never change. McCarthyism is so deeply ingrained in today's society.



So, what you are saying is, if it was any other game, the shirt would have sucked, but this game makes the shirt suck. I guess your opinion is that communists shouldn't play board games. Got it.

Graye


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kchiocca wrote:I'm so glad you felt like answering for me!
First of all, communism--->not at all the same as slavery. And for the record, it was AMERICA that practiced slavery, and still does in many ways (i.e. wage slavery).
Second, if they had been playing Monopoly, they would be pretty pathetic Communists. And if they had been playing, say, chess or poker, the shirt would have been pretty useless. There is an obvious reason why the artist chose the game he chose. If anyone thinks its just because, "oh, Risk is a fun game," they are missing the bigger picture. Essentially, Westerners have their idea of communism, and that will never change. McCarthyism is so deeply ingrained in today's society. It doesn't mean I'm going to be okay with you insinuating that I condone slavery, by any name.



Do you honestly stand by that major empires in history didn't practice slavery? I guess in the 20,000 years or so of recorded history, America was the only civilization that had slaves.. wow.

As for the "Westerner's" comment, I have my own views on different governments, as I have been all over Europe and lived there for a decent amount of time. Nice stereotyping. Really I don't feel like arguing how your view of a system that has proven to be a failure over hundreds of years is barely different than slavery. I guess facts and such just don't hold up to ideals and opinions.

Pick up Marx & Engles' Manifesto and actually read through it sometime. Yes it is a difficult read, as it pertains mostly to French society at the time, but they wrote it as a guideline for ALL aspiring governments to follow. So yeah, it does make sense for Marx to be pictured on shirt with other famous communist leaders playing a game of world domination.

Though once again, you base your arguments on your ideas and your opinions rather than backing them up with facts, so it is futile to continue this discussion.

kchiocca


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Graye wrote:Do you honestly stand by that major empires in history didn't practice slavery? I guess in the 20,000 years or so of recorded history, America was the only civilization that had slaves.. wow.

As for the "Westerner's" comment, I have my own views on different governments, as I have been all over Europe and lived there for a decent amount of time. Nice stereotyping. Really I don't feel like arguing how your view of a system that has proven to be a failure over hundreds of years is barely different than slavery. I guess facts and such just don't hold up to ideals and opinions.

Pick up Marx & Engles' Manifesto and actually read through it sometime. Yes it is a difficult read, as it pertains mostly to French society at the time, but they wrote it as a guideline for ALL aspiring governments to follow. So yeah, it does make sense for Marx to be pictured on shirt with other famous communist leaders playing a game of world domination.

Though once again, you base your arguments on your ideas and your opinions rather than backing them up with facts, so it is futile to continue this discussion.



Here are some facts--->

1.The "Westerners" comment is not intended to stereotype all Westerners. More specifically, it is based on Marx's "The German Ideology" which argues that men are historically conditioned by their material environments. It is thus difficult, though not impossible, for individuals who have been raised in Capitalist systems to fully understand/sympathize with/fight for socialism.
2. I would never imply that the US is the only country that practiced slavery. Britain and Ireland practiced slavery, for instance. "Slave labor was the characteristic form of labor in ancient society and the economic foundation of the classical Greek and Roman cultures. Long after it had vanished from the centers of European society it was reborn in the New World at the dawn of capitalist civilization and continued to flourish in the bosom of the capitalist system for three centuries and a half."( Novack, Negro Slavery in North America). But the Russians never took slaves from the other 14 republics of the Soviet Union, did they? But the goal of socialism is now "the emancipation of the working class from wage-slavery," according to Eugene V. Debs (an American!). In other words, in a country where people have no choice but to work for meager wages just to feed themselves, let alone to pay for health care which the government can't seem to provide for them, they have become slaves to their wages. The choice to leave is not, in any practical sense, their own.
3. One more fact- The Manifesto is sitting beside my bed, having been read many times. But what Marx, and the current Communist Party in America, argues against is imperialism. Instead, "Vladimir Lenin, founder of modern communism, predicted that wars would break out to redivide the world, making the era of monopoly capitalism also the era of modern imperialism" and you can read more about this here (http://www.cpusa.org/article/static/758/#2a, under the section on Capitalism in the Era of Monopoly and Imperialism.) Or better yet, read the entire thing. You may realize that while my arguments may be grounded in ideas, the ideas regarding Communism go well beyond economics. What you won't find in the Communist Manifesto, or in the CPUSA's Program, is a call for global domination. Rather, the hope is for global cooperation; the working men of all countries, after all, have been called to unite.

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I had to get this, was in need of an Olive shirt & this is my third "Cho" design


aeternea


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apparently my shirt shipped, but when i try to track it i get

Sorry, no parcels matched your tracking numbers. Please verify the entered tracking numbers and customer id are correct.

it's been like this the past few days
this is my third shirt from woot and none of the others have had this problem
hm

Gatzby


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aeternea wrote:apparently my shirt shipped, but when i try to track it i get

Sorry, no parcels matched your tracking numbers. Please verify the entered tracking numbers and customer id are correct.

it's been like this the past few days
this is my third shirt from woot and none of the others have had this problem
hm



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kchiocca wrote:Common sense would lead one to believe that if a shirt shows Communists playing Risk, which is a game OF global domination, they are implying that that is the said aim of those Communists. If the connection was not meant to be made, the artist should have depicted a random assortment of historical figures playing Risk OR the Communists, Marx included, engaged in some other activity- like implementing socialism.



No, common sense would lead one to believe that any group of people playing any board game could be doing it for any number of reasons. For example, if this shirt had 5 symbolic little kids on it, all playing "Monopoly", their ultimate goal would not be to buy fake property with orange, green, and blue money, their ultimate goal would be to have fun.
Now, it wouldn't be quite the same thing if those 5 symbolic kids were replaced with a group of some 5 randomly selected, adult, historical figures, would it? And it definitely wouldn't be the same thing if the 5 kids, parents standing aside, were all screaming and pounding the ground.
Perhaps, sometimes, you should look at things without over-thinking them. Most problems are started from people drawing overly long conclusions that end up so distant from reality that they become an unintentional comedian.

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Just got my shirt today. It was my first one and was a little nervous about the print, feel, etc., but for $10, i am VERY excited about my new shirt, it came out better than I had hoped.

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ugmeno wrote:There's no board game at all in that one.



Maybe not a direct and explicit rip off, but thematically speaking. In any case, i like both shirts, but since I already have Communist Party, getting this one would feel redundant

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I just wore this on a first date.