ramyb wrote:Honestly, I think it's much less a double-standard, and much more the fact that I defended the relevance to the theme of my entry and others did not.
oh come on now ramy. You defended your theme?
You think that's why woot didn't reject your design??
You're kidding yourself.
The artist who did the miami themed design that was rejected defended his theme and the reject-o-hammer still fell.
Do you honestly believe that the other artists were rejected because they didn't apply proper defense??
Do you really think that theory holds any water or is more believeable than woot simply protecting a money-making asset?
This is called a double-standard. And the people who benefit fromt he double standard rarely realize that it's a double standard.
The main issue is that everyone has their own expectations when coming to look at a derby. Some people pay no attention to the theme at all, and just vote for designs that they like. Others look at the name of the theme, and then make decisions about whether or not entries are on topic just based on that. For me, when doing an entry, I pay less attention to the name of the theme and more attention to woot's writeup.
I entered it knowing that some people would not think it was on theme, but I preferred to do an entry like this rather than do one that I felt would be more similar to the others in the derby. The potential for rejection was obviously there, but I think that there is enough tying this entry to woot's writeup that it should be allowed to stay in the derby.
You misunderstand my point ramy. I'm not saying that everyone has to interpret deco the way I see it. My point is that the woot judges are INCONSISTENT.
I have already stated that you have every right to your interpretation of deco. But if YOU have every right to your interpretation, then so does everyone else.
My gripe with this situation is not YOU. It's the fact that woot seems to widen and narrow its interpretation of what is on or off topic depending on who the artist is. And that, my dear ramy, is not fair.
There are rejections that should have been rejected. However, there are some rejected designs that were far less obtuse in their interpretation of Art Deco than your own piece.
My point here is not to bash you or your design, but to simply point out that there have been unfair inconsistencies in rejections. And your design simply is the biggest example of this inconsistency.
Oh and as a sidenote, a few people suggested that woot is keeping this around because my other designs have made money for them, but I really doubt that's the case, especially since this is so different from my previous designs. There's really no reason for them to expect this to do any better than other pictures that would potentially win this derby.
Don't be foolish ramy. Woot is a business. They are not here to make us happy. They are not here to be nice to the artists. They are not here to promote new talent. They are here to make money. And if anyone believes anything different, they are kidding themselves.
When a business has a cash cow, they protect it.
Right now, woot has around 500 reasons to not reject your design. Not to mention all the untold thousands of previous sales that your designs have brought them. And the voters are proving that even though this is a departure from your previous work, they are still willing to vote and most likely open their wallets. Woot has zero reasons to subject you to the same rules. That's all the reason ANY business needs to make somewhat unethical decisions when it comes to its bottom line.
In fact, playing devils advocate and looking at this from a pure profit perspective, woot would be INSANE to reject your designs when they make the fog almost every week. You may have a design or two that isn't AS successful as some of your others, but statistically speaking, the odds that they will profit from you versus another new artist that does not come with a pre-installed fanbase are very much in their favor.
Anyway, keep the designs coming. I am a fan. And my tiger shirt should be here on thursday.