byrbwr wrote:another uninspired design by an uninspired 'artist'. i hope you all enjoy your wal-martesque designs, because you can bet the next derby will have more of the same. more from ramyb/seikyoki (same person).
Swing and a miss, but thanks for playing! Then again, how could Ramy or Seki possibly have a design in a double-take derby when they always print, olololl!!!11!!!
ladynightshade wrote:Isn't that what matters most in a shirt, is first and foremost whether or not you personally like it?
Why should whether it did or did not fit the category the best matter? Apparently enough people thought it did fit the topic, since it was second place.
The best solution to this is, a) don't buy it or b)open up your own t-shirt site so you can dictate what does or doesn't print.
You do realize how much your post contradicts itself and your position, right? You say that it just has to look cool, so that means that whether or not it fits theme probably has NOTHING to do with it being in second place. You can't say that it just has to look cool, and then use its placement in the derby as "proof" of it being on theme. By that logic, you're saying that the 5th or 21st place shirts aren't as on theme as this one, which isn't necessarily true. They just probably don't look as cool...or weren't designed by Ramy or Seki...;-)
And...drat...looks like Jaden beat me to awesome post!
Jaden's right, though. There is at least one or two, if not a MAJORITY of off-topic-ish designs that end up in the fog on a weekly basis. I think the reason it made everyone so mad this time around is because steampunk is like hallowed ground of the Internet in a way. A questionable entrant in a derby like "Exercise" or "Almost..." isn't going to draw half the ire that something in a "Steampunk" derby will.
I'll even go as far as to play Devil's Advocate: besides questionable things that have happened in other arenas involving Ramy and Seki and arguably some of their conduct on here, the sort of hate they're getting isn't anything new. The successful Woot designers have all got it in their time. Ramy and Seki might be easier targets because of their style, but love it, hate it, think it's off theme or not, this design is outside of Ramy's typical artistic style, even if he uses some of his old tricks, like the halftones. In fact, I think the reaction to this shirt is similar to that of Seki's Lady in Red. A MAJORITY of people that commented weren't against the shirt or even the artwork. It was mostly lamenting that these entries were edging out the competition in a Steampunk derby.
So, keep that in mind, because I think it's important.
And, as always, I love to point out the absurdity of both sides, but since I can't call anyone out in particular, I'll just post the rundown:
1) The people that are raising all this hell about the designs and the designers are probably anything but jealous.
2) Calling out their artistic ability doesn't somehow prove a point. I'm not a good illustrator, so I couldn't design something that looked like this or better, but that doesn't disqualify my opinion in any way.
3) This is a DESIGN contest which will win you at LEAST $1,000. That's a pretty nice chunk of change. This design contest has a theme which is usually enforced in some pretty questionable ways. Thus, if something is perceived as off-theme by members of the community, it is a big deal because it nullifies the point of having a theme in the first place.
4) No, I'm not Adder, thanks for playing.
5) No, I'm not Rami or Seki, either.
Also, just because this challenge WAS never met in any of the entry threads in which I posted it: It's really, REALLY easy for someone to say that this isn't steampunk or say that gear+steam=/=steampunk, ololol. But, these are inherently non-specific and tend to gloss over the design. I mean, if you're acting like such an expert on the matter, surely you can give an explanation and analysis of why it doesn't fit the theme. Trust me, it will give your opinion more credence than "this isn't steampunk."