marmls2m


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bellarific wrote:I HAVE HAD ENOUGH.

You are out of line, and you've taken this way too far. I am EXTREMELY offended. I'm from Louisiana, and there is none of that nonsense going on. How DARE you accuse us of such things when you have no substantial proof? INTENTIONALLY hiding the "true reasons" for waving the confederate flag to BRAINWASH people into "thinking like us?" How the hell do you think we think? Have you even BEEN down south before? Have you ever spoken to anyone from here?

I suggest you drop your conspiracies now. What you're doing here is wrong. You're wrong. BACK. OFF. I am insulted and upset by what you just said. You do realize that you've just verbally condemned an entire half of the country, most of whom are JUST LIKE YOU. We live. We go to work. We have families. We raise children. We go to Disneyworld from time to time. We're not just a bunch of inbreds who are waiting for the right moment to surprise attack the Northerners or whatever crazy idea you think we're cooking up.

This started out as a ridiculous t-shirt design and it's turned into me feeling the need to defend my livelihood to people who I once thought were rational and open-minded. You've hurt me, my family, and everyone I've ever known. Over a t-shirt. I want you to know this because I can only hope that you reconsider your horrendously inaccurate and biased view of Southerners next time before you speak.

And, in case you're wondering, I've never owned/worn/waved a confederate flag in my life. I'm speaking here on behalf of the good people I've been fortunate enough to grow up with. People who've made an honest freaking living. I pity you and the life that's in store for you, lest you not reconsider your opinion of half of your brethren.

I've said my piece, and I'm washing my hands of this. If you'd like to discuss it with me further, feel free to pm me.



bellarifc, i am glad you are offended. i really am. and do you know why? because now you know how i and many many other people feel when we see a confederate flag. now you know how we feel when we see entire states willing to make and keep its flag a symbol of hate. understand that i never intended to insinuate that you, or anyone you know is trying to intentinally insert a symbol of hate into others lives. im saying that maybe the reason the confederate flag never went away after the civil war might have been that the people in charge knew what it was and what it represented and found a way to keep it around, getting everyone to agree that it was about pride. have you ever considered this? of course not. and thats why things like this happen. this is how dictators come to power. this is how countries get driven to war. leaders tell you to have pride in something and they tell you its important to you and you have to stand up for them and act out their will, and it happens in small steps at first.

i can honestly say that i do not understand ancestral pride. its like racial pride. pride should be reserved for things you actually accomplish, not things that are an accident of birth, like being born in louisiana, or being born near that cemetary where youre ancestors bones lie. what difference should it make to you where you are buried? you're going to be dead! will it change your afterlife somehow where you are buried? will heaven be different if your body is just thrown in a ditch? dont have pride in whatever state you are born in, have pride in things that YOU accomplish. i have no pride in my hometown. because my hometown can change anytime and for any reason and anything i like about it can be changed at any time. pride in arbitrary things like your race, location, or ancestry are just things that people use to further seperate themselves from others, and interestingly enough, those things allow thoughts like righteousness to prosper, which lead to other thoughts like the right to control others rights, or the thought that you are better than others. or the thought that you are better than black people.


JonnyTrombone


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srm8ib4 wrote:I agree with you. This shirt will make Russians cringe. It's like how Americans view Japanese shirts with those crazy English phrases.



With this and others: a thousand times yes. As someone who can speak Russian and English, and as someone who cares about English grammar, this just plain bothers me. The design isn't bad, but the mix of English, Cyrillic and... Greek? I just can't read it in straight English. The appearance of some Cyrillic makes me read similar-looking characters as Cyrillic...

"Gyalmmlya... Let's Tlke Vlsk Ouya Ieetyeyaeeyet."

<- me irl

graffd02


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Re: RAGAZZE



a beastie boys reference! i loves it

graffd02


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SJCarlson22 wrote:I really like your letters. They fit the overall style well.



Thanks, I made them myself

mitchellp


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spanishmel wrote:Some people make it an art form.



???

senorelroboto


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I already bought a shirt from here this week. Am I going to have to buy this one too!?

bvillarreal


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callaway17 wrote:not as good as the first, but what to do? still GMV



I completely agree, and decided not to try to salvage my Odalisque Bovine, but thanks for the vote

SpottedJo


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Re: MAKE A WISH!



Awesome! I love it. Great idea, great art, very creative.

monkeyswag


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Re: CAKE!



Chocolate Cake! gmv

monkeyswag


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spanishmel wrote:Some people make it an art form.



If it were an Olympic sport, some of my family members could represent the country.

monkeyswag


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anarchyvirus wrote:Please post this elsewhere, perhaps somewhere that does not reject shirts with a little balls in favor of fisher price, care bear shirts.

I love woot but shirt.woot seems to be targeted for people who prefer hugs over ideas.



I love people who know what they mean and mean what they say!

JordanTG


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Re: Proper Goose, or Propaganda?



I see what you did there.

MadamAtom


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Re: Land of the Free



Heh. Nice.

"Of divided by the" is bugging me, though. Maybe lose the fraction bar?

adamy323


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Re: Get a Debit Card



Best shirt ever!

slhampel


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tcanning


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Re: Who puts baby in the corner?



Vote for it or don't vote for it. No need for an essay.

dekonstruct


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fairnymph wrote:Same here. I would vote but the misspelling of j/geez makes me want to tear my hair out. IT IS NOT SPELLED LIKE CHEESE WITH G, goddamn.

Also, I agree that people rarely say j/geez...but I'm sure it does happen some of the time. Whereas as far as I know, the artist is the only person in the world who uses 'gheeze'. Or I hope he is!

/bemoans stupidity



I love the part in that post where you're obviously better than me because I spell a word in an unpopular manner.

mrwednesday


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dekonstruct wrote:I love the part in that post where you're obviously better than me because I spell a word in an unpopular manner.



I don't know why people are complaining about the spelling at all. The word being there is the problem. It really throws off the entire feel of the poster and really detracts from the propaganda tone.

Ziggybaby


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Beefcoat wrote:Sorry for all of the negative connotations. I am a man who thinks that it would be incredibly difficult to be a stay-home-dad. So I made this shirt: 1. to be funny 2. to pay homage to the women brave enough to do such a feat.



I think this shirt would be just as rad if it payed homage to not only the women strong enough to take on such a feat, but the men as well. (They're out there, I promise!)It's a great and hilarious shirt and I would totally buy it if it weren't for the "no we can't."

dekonstruct


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mrwednesday wrote:I don't know why people are complaining about the spelling at all. The word being there is the problem. It really throws off the entire feel of the poster and really detracts from the propaganda tone.



I am trying to detract from the propaganda tone. I want it to feel like the words are fighting with the pilots for their attention and the pilots couldn't care less. Like the poster has resorted to pleading even though it's already lost the battle.

It's placed at the very end to show the downhill slide and eventual demise of the propaganda tone. Gheeeze is it's last ditch effort to win your attention.

albinoapple


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sokowa wrote:True . . but for 10$ you can be really cool for a few weeks After that, flip it inside out and BAM timeless shirt!



I like the way you think!

kevcarlson


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Re: Eat Your Vegetables!



Wow! I guess I better eat my carrots...

IndependentVik


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cabinboy100 wrote:I remember the scene you speak of, but I (and the rejectionator, I'm sure) have no clue why you'd bring up this non sequitur on the thread for this shirt...

But, since you do bring it up, in my mind, Han's description of Wookiee reprisal paints an image of violence against a more humanoid (and generic-looking =) droid arm.

(Thanks @tcanning for the also completely-unrelated-to-the-thread transcript.)



Nice explanation. And you get extra points for being coy ;)

bermaniastudios


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Re: Obey the Balloon!



Cute

5 Woots
1 Quality Post

TheyKilledKenny


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Re: A MAN WITH BACON... IS A MAJORITY



A MAN WITH BACON... IS A MAJORITY [neon resub]

The slogan is from a familiar Jefferson quote... "A Man with Courage... is a Majority"

Excuse Me Maam, Your Woot is Showing...

mitchellp


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TheyKilledKenny wrote:A MAN WITH BACON... IS A MAJORITY [neon resub]

The slogan is from a familiar Jefferson quote... "A Man with Courage... is a Majority"



Am I missing something? I don't get this

beaterbar


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Re: Like A Good Neighbor



probably the only shirt from this derby that I would actually wear

kender42


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bethlehemstarr wrote:
...I just would like you to know that not everyone screaming for the end of the 'meaningless war' is against those fighting it. In fact, probably a miniscule minority are. Perhaps, they chose words that you dislike- but they are (I am) not against you.



Again I have commented on this at length. I never said that people who are against the war are against the troops. Others keep misinterpreting what I am talking about so that they can use their precanned arguments. I have said, and continue to say, that the use of the word meaningless makes this offensive to me. I never said that people who are against the war are against the troops. I have also said had this shirt read "Support the never ending war" I would never have commented.

bethlehemstarr wrote:
I wish you well, and hope that when the end of your time in the military comes, you are better off than you were when it started. And, I hope for that for each and every single member of the military.




Thank you.

stingray69


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Re: better watch out



Well I guess this rejection kills my idea for Uncle Sam reminding men over 50 to get their prostate checked.

dekonstruct


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Re: Stop using Bad typefaces!!!



Hahaha, it is also upsetting the adults.

kender42


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mrwednesday wrote:
Your original point was that this shirt was a giant F.U. to the troops because it says that what they are doing over there is meaningless.



Yes I find it offensive b/c I find the use of the word meaningless to imply that our troops are giving their lives for nothing and that we are accomplishing nothing.


mrwednesday wrote:
While the meaningful/meaningless continuum may be where you are focused, I would like you to explain to me how you can be against something and find it meaningful, particularly when it results in the loss of human life on both sides. I would also like you to explain how a never ending war is meaningful. If the point of a war is to accomplish something but you are never able to do that making the war drag on forever, what meaning was there?



Not the argument I am here to make. I do not intend to defend or attack the current war(s). I never made an argument that if you aren't for the war you are against the troops. I have said that the use of the word meaningless trivializes what we do over there.

mrwednesday wrote:
This last point is the heart of the shirt for me. We as citizens are being asked to support the never ending, meaningless war and for the most part any dissent is demonized by making a false connection between support for the war and support for the troops. If there is any modern propaganda, this is it to a T.



And yet when I DO NOT make that argument you argue against me based on it. I NEVER said that if you aren't for them you are against them. You may have said I have but I never did. I have time and time again said my complaint is that the use of the word meaningless trivializes our sacrifices.

dekonstruct


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dekonstruct


quality posts: 3 Private Messages dekonstruct
Re: You Might Be A Hack If... (Resub)



A vote for this is a vote for freedom. This should be a mandatory poster outside of every comedy club.

kender42


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deusvsmachina wrote:I think you guys are all missing the point. The very fact that I'd have to put up with this tired, cliche debate every time I decided to wear this shirt is the reason I would never buy it to begin with. My actual opinion on the matter is moot, as is all of yours.



Sadly the 'cliche' debate isn't my complaint, otherwise I agree with you. You wouldn't be able to wear this shirt for more than 10 minutes, except maybe on a college campus, without having to defend it.

dekonstruct


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Re: I SUGGEST A NEW STRATEGY...



Daaaang, I love how thick those lines are.

cabinboy100


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Re: MAKE A WISH! (on black)


There are many ways to make a wish,
Genie, eyelash, even talking fish...
One consistent rule,
Whether birthday, star, or magic spell...
If you want it to come true,
You DO NOT TELL!

(After a coin toss, initially posted design on brown. But kept peeking back at the black. Commitment issues. So, here it be.)

capedcrusader514


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Misskari wrote:I don't usually play this card, but...
Sexist.

EDIT: ATTENTION, I was an asshat to say this. Sorry, Kasey, I got a bad feeling in my gut when I saw this the first time. After some consideration, I think I'm being too sensitive.



I'm glad you edited this statement bc i was about to get so angry.


Me lovesies the beastie boys.


capedcrusader514


quality posts: 1 Private Messages capedcrusader514
Misskari wrote:I don't usually play this card, but...
Sexist.

EDIT: ATTENTION, I was an asshat to say this. Sorry, Kasey, I got a bad feeling in my gut when I saw this the first time. After some consideration, I think I'm being too sensitive.



I'm glad you edited this statement bc i was about to get so angry.


Me lovesies the beastie boys.


SailorButterfly


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Re: Read A Book



r-e-a-d a b-o-O-K!

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The "Most Awesome Butterfly-Sailor Hybrid on Woot"

mrwednesday


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kender42 wrote:Yes I find it offensive b/c I find the use of the word meaningless to imply that our troops are giving their lives for nothing and that we are accomplishing nothing.



No the use of the word meaningless emphasizes the needless loss of life. You can argue semantics all you want but the bottom line is that you do not, will not and have not made any attempt to argue that anything that has been done is meaningful or that anything has been accomplished.

It's nice to think that people aren't dying for nothing and I'm sure that helps a lot of people rationalize it, but what are they dying for? Really. If you can't answer that question you may still feel offended but you have no right to be.

The biggest problem I have with your position on this issue is that you, along with many others, take it for granted that because someone has signed up to put their life at risk it automatically justifies and gives meaning to anything they do. The entire idea is patently false.

While the mission of the armed forces is a noble one, this has often been subverted by terrible, immoral foreign policy. And while a vast majority are the actual people in the military signed up and do their jobs with the best of intentions, none of the erases the fact that the things our military is currently doing are meaningless.

Now if you want to argue that US foreign policy is good and that the things we are doing are meaningful that is another issue altogether. But if you accept that the way we are waging the war on terror and our involvement in the Middle East is wrong, then you have to accept that lives are being lost for nothing. There is no meaning there other than our government needlessly risking the lives of our troops.