colinm09 wrote:Look at things regarding Amuria and Ramy and then defend the two of them. Hell, just read Adder's comment a few pages back...it basically sums up a few major examples of her cheating.
I see you've decided to not respond to the first part of my post. Whatever floats your boat. Are you referring to this comment?
AdderXYU wrote:Given their nigh-instantaneous dual-popularity here, the sheer frequency of their wins from the beginning, the lack of precedence of similar work winning regularly before, the increasing lack of quality in their pieces attached to similar winning percentages, the amount of votes they beat most other designs by, and their resurgence as a winning force to be reckoned with since the creation of a larger fog unseen in the hotness, after a number of slower months, I find it VERY hard to believe there is none of that shady past involved.
If so, lol. None of this is hard proof, or even vaguely solid evidence. All it is is the angry conjecture of one poster who freely admits he has a personal vendetta against both artists. When you look deeper at the post, however, it becomes more than a misguided fearmongering diatribe.
Firstly, bear in mind that other things that Adder has listed as dishonest have included,"bringing people in from other sites" which is patently ridiculous. Nowhere on any woot site can I find a single mention of the illegality of advertising one's design on an exterior site.
Secondly, let me define what I would view as cheating on a derby. Gaming the system through technological means, (aka hacking of some sort) or by registering fake accounts and voting. Again, there is absolutely zero evidence for either of those occuring. I think Woot would have noticed by now if they were artificially inflating the vote count by hacking, and the idea that they are registering these multitudes of false accounts is ridiculous, as the very nature of the site prevents it. I doubt even the most desperate cheater would pay thousands of dollars for a shirt to win a derby. Adder and others suffer from a bad case of confusion of causation/correlation and a bias against the artists that manifests itself in interpretations of derby performances that, when viewed from a clear perspective, are laughable in their stupidity. Ramy or Seki winning by a large margin? Well, they can't possibly have a decent design that is well targeted with large amounts of popular appeal! Perish the thought! They must be cheating! What's this, Ramy and Seki are submitting more designs after a lull in activity? It can't possibly that one or both are simply tired of shirt design and wants to take a break! They MUST BE CHEATING!!!!
Until I see solid, non biased information from a reliable source that doesn't rely on conjecture and strawman arguments, I will let Ramy and Seki be innocent until proven guilty. Unless Adder, along with redefining what art is, seeks to redefine the core idea of a system of justice as well? I wouldn't be surprised in the least.