JaundiceDave wrote:I read the post. You say that they've caught the cheaters, so why, if R and S are cheating, and woot has caught the cheaters, do they keep winning? Have they managed to be that incredibly clever that they can slip through woot's defenses with nary a care? It seems to be you whose enitre post is massively flawed, my friend. Perhaps if you put as much time into coming up with arguments as you do posing yourself for photos to illustrate bird anatomy, you would realize this.
I generally try to steer clear of the RamySekiAreCheatersAndShouldBeBanned debate, but I would just like to make a point concerning this post: almost every shirt that Ramy or Seki offers up in the derby that places sells out. That's $30K in woot's pocket (probably around half that net). That is reason enough for them to turn a blind eye to the issue.
They have found vote stuffing, and they tried to appease the voting masses crying foul by expanding the fog to 9 and the new hotness to non-fogged entries. Honestly, I think that this helps to cover up the ballot stuffing even more. If woot is going to turn a blind eye to it, what better way to pull the proverbial wool over wooters' eyes than to not allow them to see just how many votes a particular fogged shirt is getting, regardless of who the artist is? For instance, in last week's derby Seki's shirt won by a staggering number of votes. By the old derby standards, it would be extremely easy for wooters to see that she was getting, say +57 votes average over the 3-hour hotness period with the next shirt getting +33. The accusations of cheating would have been rampant (although obviously by the number and length of posts on this design, those accusations still are). But, with the new derby rules, it makes it much more difficult to finger-point because there is the level of the unknown.
The question is, did woot do this intentionally? As a person who takes pride in integrity, I would like to think not. But, again, woot is in the business of making money and, let's face it, Ramy and Seki are definitely good for business. If they are supposedly creating multiple accounts and buying a lot of their own shirts, why would woot care or attempt to stop it, if their sole reason is to go for the green? Ramy and Seki would be cutting into their own profit, and adding to woot's. If I were woot and had no integrity, that would be just fine by me.
Now, obviously what I have posted is pure conjecture and is not necessarily my personal opinion. I'm just trying to make a point as to why woot would potentially turn a blind eye to ballot stuffing. And why I think that the new voting system has created more problems than it has solved (that is my personal opinion).