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NessaRose wrote:it so cute i just want to hug it.
There you go. Obviously connected to the theme: Nightmare.
Oh... wait a minute...
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Izzyshiddizzle wrote:Are you serious? Your argument is that nightmares must take place in the human world so there must be a human in the image for it to be considered a nightmare. Do you not realize how ridiculous that sounds?
Here's a simple clue for you and all the other gumballs who are obviously just jealous of RAMYB's success. The title of the design is Behold A Pale Horse. So what does that mean, you ask? It means that it's a depiction from the bible, more specifically, the human bible.
So now that we know it actually does take place on earth, let's move on to a real argument. The book of revelation, from which the title comes, is a prophecy or vision of what is to come. I don't know about you but if I had a vision of the end of the world similar to what is written in the book of revelation, I would most definitely consider it a nightmare. And if I were told that it would actually come true, I would consider it even more nightmarish!
Many of you are saying that if there were a child in the picture it would be much more nightmarish but I don't agree at all. One thing about art that most of you either don't know, or are just deciding to forget, is that art isn't always just about what you see, it's about what you don't see. So in this design we have a playground with no children and what is in their place? Fire and Death! In other words, the kids are dead and gone. I don't know how many of you are parents but I would guess not very many because that is a parents worst nightmare.
I'm sorry for being rude but it seems that a lot of you are just trying to pull stupid excuses out of thin air because you're jealous of RAMYB's success. Just grow up and except the fact that people honestly like RAMYB's designs. This site may be about art but don't forget that it's also about business as well. If you think differently, you're just lying to yourself, otherwise you wouldn't be wasting you're time designing shirts.
1) My point was not that nightmares must take place in the "human world" or whatever. My sole point was that there's nothing in the picture to indicate that this is actually a nightmare and not just an image of Death's "childhood" or whatever. I apologize if the point I'm trying to make is poorly worded/vague.
2) Please try and calm down. Thanks.
3) Again, I'm not saying this isn't necessarily on theme, but I think it's a bit of a stretch and more fitting for, again "Naughty or Nice" or an "End of the world' or something derby. As mrwednesday brought up, either on this thread or in the main derby thread, one should be able to, ideally, look at a shirt design and reasonably be able to guess the theme in a few guesses. I'm not so sure that someone would guess "Nightmare" when seeing this...But, then again, that's just me.
4) I can only speak for myself on this, though I would venture a guess that I speak for most of the people debating in this thread, is that I'm not in any way jealous of ramyb and am not trying to take away from his past success or anything, let alone pulling complaints out of thin air; as a whole, I think both sides have made valid points. I'm not trying to take any shots at him by arguing or whatnot about this piece; I certainly don't have any personal vendetta or whatnot against him. I'm just commenting on what I see from this design in relation to the derby itself. And as far as the art AND business part, I completely agree and I am certainly not forgetting it. I'm not usually a huge fan of ramyb's shirts, though he does have some designs I find cool(like his entry last week for the "Egypt" Derby.). Regardless, his shirts sell, so there's obviously a demand for his shirts.
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