bluchez


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169 derbies, 6175 artists, 36,977 entries.

Since the only decent archive of derby entries by artist was shutting down, I decided to go ahead and add an artist archive to shirt.what?.

As always with shirt.what?, I tried to make the site present as much relevant information as possible in a simple interface. There is an alphabetized list of all entrants sized by number of derby entries. There is a search form providing easy access to all artist pages available. Individual artist pages provide a nice look at all previous derby entries sorted in reverse order (most recent first), as well as provide some overall statistics for their previous derby entries. Check it out and let me know what you think.

In order to properly setup the site, a database containing all previous (and current) derby entries had to be created. This has allowed for virtually unlimited flexibility in the data available to be presented. Individual derbies, date ranges, derby vote totals, votes relative to derby averages, etc, may be generated from the data with some relatively simple sql and php. So, I guess this means I need ideas for what you guys would like to see added based on artist or other info. If I ignore your suggestion, please know that it is entirely personal and it has nothing to do with workload or other life reasons. I will unlikely do work to help you prove your point, so positive uses for the data are much more likely to be considered.

Have fun!

no1


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bluchez wrote:So, I guess this means I need ideas for what you guys would like to see added based on artist or other info. If I ignore your suggestion, please know that it is entirely personal and it has nothing to do with workload or other life reasons. I will unlikely do work to help you prove your point, so positive uses for the data are much more likely to be considered.

Have fun!



how about removed entries? cwarringtons's site had at least some of them; perhaps you could merge some of his data into your own db, and track them automagically going forward?

i suppose that mite violate artist copyrite, though?

omnitarian


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There seems to me a major glitch: my name is very tiny despite very clearly being the awesomest.

(but srsly, looks great! We've needed a reference tool like this for a long time.)

tjbeyerl


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no1 wrote:how about removed entries?



This. Also, one thing I always wished the other site had is rejection reasons. If someone removed their rejected entry, you could never see why it was rejected.

missmissa07


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I love what you did with the artist page & having names bigger depending on how often they submit. Very cool. Plus, I really like being able to see all of the shirts on one artist's page. Very handy.

fishbiscuit5


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Wow! This is a fantastic tool! Thanks for putting this together.










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Wow! That is great. It's a wonderful resource.



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Superwow! How fun. I love it. You're a.wesome.

AdderXYU


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no1 wrote:how about removed entries? cwarringtons's site had at least some of them; perhaps you could merge some of his data into your own db, and track them automagically going forward?

i suppose that mite violate artist copyrite, though?



no more than compiling their entries any other way would, really. All entries are under woot's hold from the second they're entered, so it's fair game.

Not that I am uber-confident that anyone really cares about this issue enough to make a difference.

rglee129


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AMAZING!!

Well done, and thank you.

bluchez


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Rejection reasons have been added, thanks for the suggestion. That was some very humorous data to watch roll in. I'll have to come up with a neat way to present them by themselves one day. 3,204 unique rejection reasons for 5,236 rejections.

Removal of entries is a bigger issue, but trust me, it's on my mind. Unfortunately, it takes quite a lot of work for not much information, so we'll have to see how it goes.

paigeg


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AdderXYU wrote:no more than compiling their entries any other way would, really. All entries are under woot's hold from the second they're entered, so it's fair game.

Not that I am uber-confident that anyone really cares about this issue enough to make a difference.



Do better.

I found one of my faves, weirpuckett in a heartbeat, and every entry he's subbed.

THANK YOU blu!

tjbeyerl


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bluchez wrote:Rejection reasons have been added, thanks for the suggestion. That was some very humorous data to watch roll in.



I think this is my favorite so far: "Rejected because: No poop on shirts"

http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=4446

bluchez


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tjbeyerl wrote:I think this is my favorite so far: "Rejected because: No poop on shirts"

http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=4446



A couple of my favorites:

Rejected because: As fetching as I look in this picture, I think the anatomy did this in.

Rejected because: Uh, let's try to keep pairs of things off of the chest area. Cool?

lonelypond


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Very nice. Thanks.

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Josephus


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bluchez wrote:A couple of my favorites:

Rejected because: As fetching as I look in this picture, I think the anatomy did this in.

Rejected because: Uh, let's try to keep pairs of things off of the chest area. Cool?



This is really a great resource after only 1 day. Super.

SailorButterfly


quality posts: 14 Private Messages SailorButterfly

I love this, bluchez! Thanks so much!

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BootsBoots


quality posts: 38 Private Messages BootsBoots

otterific, otterific, otterific! Thanks so much for putting this together.


clarinerd


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Whoa! This is totally otterific! I was just thinking the other day how great it would be if this were added. And now it has been! I feel like someone from a Microsoft commercial: "Hello, my name is Steve, and shirt.what was my idea"

bassanimation


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My favorite part about this is getting to look at how people's art has changed over time. It's really neat to see how some of my favorite artists have progressed, seeing what they learned, how they incorporated new ideas into their designs. I am so inspired j_j.

I could spend hours on this if left to my own devices... I would probably also just be in my underwear a lot if left to my own devices...

ressamac


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That was so fun! What a great way to make the info accessible. Thank you so much for this.

tjost


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Hey Woot, just a suggestion, but I think that you should seriously think about bringing Bluchez onboard your staff. He's done a great job of sorting the mess that is otherwise know as the woot art achives. Great job on this. I'm sad shirt derby stats is dissapearing but this makes the art a lot more concise and easy to browse based on artist.

Edit - I did just notice though that you don't track dailies it seems associated with individual artist on thier pages. Maybe in the future?

Kalari


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This is quite possibly the best thing ever. My favorite parts: the sizes of artist names based on number of entries, and the rollovers of thumbnails showing the derby it came from, etc.


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jmmbell1987


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This is my new favorite site ever.

bluchez


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- Added some search options to help filter artist results by derby or removed/rejected status.

- Added removed entries. Not sure whether I'll keep my program running around the clock just to capture them, but I'll see if I can.

zosai


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Thank you very much for doing this. Your site is amazing!

Could you add a summary page, in top 10 format perhaps, of the most number of derby wins, percentage of wins relative to entries, number of entries until first win, number of rejections, longest continuous streak of entries, etc? Other categories could be used, but just a snapshot of the overall artist community.

And second, could you change the color of the font of artists' names based on the date of their most recent entry? Perhaps the scheme could be red for most recent entry in most recent derby, orange for within last month, yellow for within 3(6?) months, black for longer than 3(6?) months. This way we could get a visual sense of the activity or inactivity of the list of artists. This could also be applied to most recent derby wins, too, in some way.

Those are my thoughts, but take it or leave it, your site is awwwesome, and I really appreciate what you're doing there.

You could also add a PayPal donate button if Woot doesn't put you on staff...

artulo


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Thanks, Blu! You rock. Amazing work. Where is your paypal "buy me a beer" button?

marzipanapple


quality posts: 7 Private Messages marzipanapple

This is fantastic. I'm having so much fun going through these. I was surprised looking back at my own entries, haha. I'd forgotten I made half of those..

bluchez


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Added all of the info to highlight derby prints. Since there are so many, and so many shirts that have printed in total, I could have easily missed one or mislabeled one. Please let me know if you find anything.

Ask and you might receive: Derby Leaderboard

Daily shirts are also on the list. Thanks for all the suggestions.

geekfactor12


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bluchez wrote:Added all of the info to highlight derby prints. Since there are so many, and so many shirts that have printed in total, I could have easily missed one or mislabeled one. Please let me know if you find anything.

Ask and you might receive: Derby Leaderboard

Daily shirts are also on the list. Thanks for all the suggestions.



Whoa! That leaderboard is nuts!

The "Most Average Votes" stat seems like it should raise a few eyebrows...

HalfWheat


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bluchez wrote:Added all of the info to highlight derby prints. Since there are so many, and so many shirts that have printed in total, I could have easily missed one or mislabeled one. Please let me know if you find anything.

Ask and you might receive: Derby Leaderboard

Daily shirts are also on the list. Thanks for all the suggestions.



Most popular derby by votes is cool, but how about highest/lowest scoring first place or maybe the highest/lowest average of the top three?

bluchez


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HalfWheat wrote:Most popular derby by votes is cool, but how about highest/lowest scoring first place or maybe the highest/lowest average of the top three?



Thanks for the suggestion. I added a couple of graphs that are based on those ideas. I think it gives a nice overview of voting history.


Average Votes for Top 3 Places over Derby History

no1


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bluchez wrote:Ask and you might receive: Derby Leaderboard



in your artist archive, inglekott, the winner of the first derby, has a 20% derby print percentage rate (1 print from 5 total entries) but isn't listed in the "best print record" list. is there a minimum number of prints to qualify?

bluchez


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no1 wrote:in your artist archive, inglekott, the winner of the first derby, has a 20% derby print percentage rate (1 print from 5 total entries) but isn't listed in the "best print record" list. is there a minimum number of prints to qualify?



I felt a 20 entry minimum was appropriate for best record and average votes. Without it, the lists are full of collab accounts and people with very few entries.

This would be an unfiltered best record, which wasn't very interesting to me.

BootsAndRamy 100.0
chogentry 100.0
snakeweber 100.0
leonryan 100.0
kpetrasko 100.0
nicetry 50.0
jeebussez 50.0
goldfishinapicklejar 50.0
CptJimboHapsburgCho 50.0
methepainter 50.0

jmmbell1987


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Most Average Votes

Average Votes
sekiyoku 630.7
ramyb 626.4
patrickspens 508.5
kdeuce 466.9



Most Double-Takes
Total Entries

tgentry 47
edgarrmcherly 37
lucky1988 31
jewelwing 30
rglee129 25



This says a LOT about how more EC's, even if they're far from perfect, would make for far more interesting prints.

Darquis


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geekfactor12 wrote:Whoa! That leaderboard is nuts!

The "Most Average Votes" stat seems like it should raise a few eyebrows...



Not to me it doesn't - certain people always do well in the derby (maybe because they submit things they know will get votes) and others sometimes don't do so well (they submit "risky" entries because they thought they'd be cool)

Although things are gonna get skewed cuz Drakxxx submits collabs with Crescent Debris under his name and then each also submits entries individually

geekfactor12


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Darquis wrote:Not to me it doesn't - certain people always do well in the derby (maybe because they submit things they know will get votes) and others sometimes don't do so well (they submit "risky" entries because they thought they'd be cool)



I'm not saying it's definitive proof of anything, just that it's unusual.

Essentially, the stats are saying that even among the most popular artists, Ramy and Seki routinely score 20% more votes than the nearest competition. 20% is huge.

What's additionally interesting is that they score virtually identically, with only 4 votes separating their averages (which puts them within 0.6% of each other).

That's pretty uncanny, and is definitely an extreme outlier from the rest of the stats. While, of course, being by itself no particular proof of anything.

Josephus


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geekfactor12 wrote:I'm not saying it's definitive proof of anything, just that it's unusual.

Essentially, the stats are saying that even among the most popular artists, Ramy and Seki routinely score 20% more votes than the nearest competition. 20% is huge.

What's additionally interesting is that they score virtually identically, with only 4 votes separating their averages (which puts them within 0.6% of each other).

That's pretty uncanny, and is definitely an extreme outlier from the rest of the stats. While, of course, being by itself no particular proof of anything.



be interesting to plot ramy votes vs seki votes in the derbies they both entered and see how close the correlation actually is. Or the ratio of ramy:seki vs. derby.

Josephus


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I'd like to see a stat of most winners of doubletake derbies or even percentage wins of doubletake derbies; i.e., wins per doubletake entry. might be a better indication of 'respectedness' of artists, but interesting in its own right.

no1


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Josephus wrote:be interesting to plot ramy votes vs seki votes in the derbies they both entered and see how close the correlation actually is. Or the ratio of ramy:seki vs. derby.



average difference between vote totals for each in each derby in which they both entered? std dev?