ocg


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Sephirage wrote:Anyone know what's the difference between a crow and a raven? I don't know why I'm asking this, but this shirt made me curious.

brb, google.



Actually, I think everyone on shirt.woot knows that ravens are immortal.

walmazan


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yeah littleclyde! another amazing tee! comgrats

bigbluecape


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Sephirage wrote:Anyone know what's the difference between a crow and a raven? I don't know why I'm asking this, but this shirt made me curious.

brb, google.



A Raven is Much bigger than a crow, otherwise they are very much the same

Assassin15


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Is there something to get with this design, or is it just straight-up cool looking?

PULL UP YOUR SKIRT, WE'RE ON A MISSION/
WE NEED A HERO, NOT A POLITICIAN - "Panhammer" by Phinehas

skatimmy737


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Guess we wound him too tightly. His sprockets are boinging everywhere. Can I use an onomatopoeia as a verb?

FifthDream


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Got it. Love clockworky stuff.

ravenhaired


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piyaoyas wrote:About 2.6 years of consistent sales on shirt.woot...



Hah!

So surprised to see this here, but so happy! Whoo. :D

zachj589


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Assassin15 wrote:Is there something to get with this design, or is it just straight-up cool looking?



I was wondering the same thing. I'm pretty sure it's the latter. If not, I guess I'll have a movie to watch or something, because I'm in for one right now.

littleclyde


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Hooray! Thanks to everyone who voted for this, such a surprise to see it squeak by. There's really nothing to "get" about this design(unless someone wants to come up with an elaborate nature vs technology metaphor with a few movie references and a comment about art and pop culture thrown in for good measure), but I hope you enjoy it anyway!

Andy47240


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Great design LittleClyde.
Did you ever get your DEVO swag from that derby victory?



Magnoire


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Cool shirt tho' some of the gears look like Ritz Crackers. YUM!

crowsnest


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Are you making shirts so I have to buy them now? Infor one. Just look at my name! How could I not be?!?!?!?! Nice shirt!!!

@crowsnest531

littleclyde


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Andy47240 wrote:Great design LittleClyde.
Did you ever get your DEVO swag from that derby victory?



Still waiting... Maybe Santa will bring me an energy dome and jumpsuit for Christmas? Unfortunately, all their fall shows got canceled so it looks like I will miss out on seeing them live. Not Woot's fault though, they've been super helpful.

VaneWimsey


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Sephirage wrote:Anyone know what's the difference between a crow and a raven? I don't know why I'm asking this, but this shirt made me curious.

brb, google.



Depends. Both are common names, not scientific names, that are used loosely and have several alternative meanings.

But basically, ravens are bigger. And there are other small distinctions apparent only to a birdwatcher.

"Crow" can mean any of the 40 or so species within the genus Corvus. "Raven" can mean any of about 10 larger-bodied species within that genus. Thus, in that case, all ravens are crows, but not all crows are ravens.

However, "crow" can also mean just the American crow. And "raven" can also mean just the common raven. In that case, they're just two separate species.

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All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares.

sodalite


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wootvan wrote:Many people use the terms 'raven' and 'crow' interchangeably, but they are actually quite different. Technically, since ravens belong to the crow (corvus) family of birds, they can be called crows - but not all crows are ravens. The two differ in a variety of ways.

Size
First, and most noticeably, ravens are larger than crows. They are (on average) about the size of a hawk, where crows are approximately the size of a pigeon.

Call
If you're familiar with the call which crows make, you'd probably recognize the raven's call as being different. Crows have a more nasal, higher pitched call, where a raven's call is lower, and hoarser... almost a croaking sound. I've frequently been approached by people saying "I heard this really funny-sounding crow the other day..." and when I ask "Was it a really big crow?" the answer has almost invariably been yes. In which case, chances are pretty good that it wasn't a crow at all, but a raven.
If you want to hear the difference for yourself, click here for a raven's call and crow's call.

Tail feathers
Crows have a very fan-shaped tail, where raven's tails have more of a wedge-shape to them. This isn't very easy to tell if the bird is sitting on the ground, but when flying overhead, you can often get a good look at the shape of the tail.


Feather shape
Ravens' feathers are also a slightly different shape than crows' feathers. Crow feathers tend to be more rounded at the tip, while ravens have feathers which are slightly pointed. This is most noticeable on the breast feathers, especially when the bird fluffs itself up. The feathers on the crow's breast lie comfortably against eachother and provide a nice, even, rounded covering. The feathers on a raven lie a little more jaggedly, and when a raven fluffs up, its breast tends to look ragged. In fact, when a raven really fluffs up and all its feathers look like they're standing on end, the raven appears to have a short fluffy mane (called a 'ruff').

Habitat
Ravens and crows can often be found living side by side in the same areas, but where there's a choice, Ravens prefer wilder areas while crows will live quite close to cities. The bigger the city, the less likely ravens will make it their home -- and when they do, they tend to live in or near parks and natural spaces. Crows, on the other hand, are more likely to live near buildings, and will venture farther into human developments to compete for food.



There are more differences between crows and ravens, including their social habits and life span (ravens live longer), but these are the key points. They should help you determine whether the bird you're looking at is a raven or just a very large crow.



seems very contradictory since the first statement was "ravens belong to the crow (corvus) family of birds, they can be called crows - but not all crows are ravens" This means that everything stated is true for a *crow* AND some is only true for specific crows *ravens*

polluxoil


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I don't normally get things for myself in December since it's Christmas season, but I've wanted this since the original derby. And the original derby wasn't in December, so that's okay, right?

...right?

moronbrigade


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polluxoil wrote:I don't normally get things for myself in December since it's Christmas season, but I've wanted this since the original derby. And the original derby wasn't in December, so that's okay, right?

...right?



No, its December now

Seize the Opportunity.

lyracole


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my partner's twitter username is @clockworkcrow (go look him up!). a friend of ours directed us to the shirt, and we bought on sight!

- lyra

Assassin15


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Crows are better than ravens, right? So that means this will dethrone Nevermore, right? Please?

PULL UP YOUR SKIRT, WE'RE ON A MISSION/
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kc6201


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Woohoo! So glad this got printed. It was my favorite of its original derby. Still wish it was on asphalt though.

Places 2-5 were pretty close this week. I really like Equinox too but I'm glad this one won. My other favorite only made it to 14th.

hombredepescado


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Sly Cooper, anyone?

abysm


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Really love this one

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sparrowhawk69 wrote:birds of a feather clock together



so funny!

muitobem


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I do love the shirt....but would love to know that it shipped so that my daughter can get it for Christmas. Paid for shipping it overnight. Was told it should ship out on Friday the 17th of December. Have yet to see the status of it change.