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Now, i have to get the "Cake", We may not see another orange shirt in a while.

@ graffd - Pink might cut the sales in half. Didn't you see all the trade offers for pink Woot "!" shirt?

Silver for heather is a fair trade, even though heather is kinda making a comeback with the resurgence of classy graphic-design-style shirts; Not that I would ever expect to find something classy or well-designed at woot, oh burrrrrrned (I kid! I kid!)

Orange is a great blank (can't imagine Blocks Build You or Kitty Gratis on anything else) but admittedly designs that are perfect for orange are few and far between. Slate is a nice color, mostly because you can put dark inks on it unlike asphalt. While it does leave us with a large amount of grey shirt blanks, it's one-in, one-out for silver replacing heather, and slate is replacing a color that was rarely used in the first place.

But totally agreed that we should get to pal around with eggplant somewhere down the line.

Nooo! Not orange! I love orange!

Ah well, I supposed I must be in the minority. Silver is a nice color too, but it's no orange...

Now I have to go to my closet and tell My only Orange Shirt that He will NEVER have a friend... Thanks Woot!...

"Lastly, designs currently for sale (or in the Derby this week) that use Heather Gray or Orange will continue to be printed on those colors for as long as they stick around. We won't be suddenly switching It Came Out of Nowhere to silver or The Cake is a Liar to red."

I'd buy It Came Out of nowhere again if it was reprinted on Silver. Why must past designs be permanently tied to one shirt color?

Oh man, they're getting rid of orange? I loved designing on orange D:

Personally I'm sad to see the heather grey go. I'm curious to find out what the percentage of shirts in the derby will use these new colors. I may be one of them.

Boo at the loss of orange. Not overly excited for two new shades of gray personally. Looks like Emo just got a promotion.

There should be a shade of purple. That is all.

kinzoku wrote:Woot's giving us new derby colors? Is this real life?

I hate to complain in the face of good news, but I agree with those saddened by the lack of purple in this announcement. I'd rather have a nice purple than slate.

Same... much as I'm glad to have new colors and change, disappointed that one is a color very similar to the very frequently used asphalt, instead of a new color like purple/eggplant.

And sad to see heather gray go... the only non-solid color here, a more neutral backdrop and very versatile design-wise.

Alas, heather gray, I will miss you!

bassanimation wrote:Hahahaha you beat me to it, Jadenkale! I was just about to bemoan the lack of purple. But, silver and slate are also great :D. Wooo!

Hey Bass looks like woot listened to our request! , two new color options and seems like they have bigger screens now!, did you checked the new template yet?

(o;

waterfallbooks wrote:But I want "It Came Out of Nowhere!" to be on silver! The only reason I haven't bought it before now is because it's been on that awful heather gray.

I was thinking this about The Cake is a Liar. I actually did order it just because I had to have it, but probably won't wear it anywhere. I look horrible in orange. Red (or blue, like mentioned in the other thread) would be much better.

And "It Came Out of Nowhere" isn't too bad on heather gray. It definitely looks more casual to me though, like it should be a gym shirt.

Booo-hiss! I'm not sad to see heather go, but did we need another gray? And another gray?
I'm gonna miss orange, and damned if Slate isn't just Asphalt lite. And I'll join the crowd begging for some purple, though the eggplant is more what I have in mind than purple-purple.

Dear woot,

If you want all of my money, you should add eggplant to the color pallet. I might buy so many eggplant shirts that there wouldn't be enough days to wear them all, and since you would have all of my money, I would be unable to afford pants, and therefore would need to violate the safety rules of your shirts and wear eggplant woot shirts as pants, too.

Thank you for your consideration of this matter.
Sincerely,
neuropsychosocial

I'm really happy you've tweaked all the other colors' values. The navy and brown in particular are now much closer to the shirts I own.

you should have gotten rid of olive and baby blue. those colors are awful!!

I wouldn't mind seeing yellow go either, since you can see right through it.

I really don't understand why so many people dislike baby blue.

expo01 wrote:Hey Bass looks like woot listened to our request! , two new color options and seems like they have bigger screens now!, did you checked the new template yet?

(o;

It looks like the print area is the same, 16" wide by 20" tall. I am glad to see a new tee template though :D.

Do these really count as new colors when they're all just variations of gray? I am underwhelmed.

mrwednesday wrote:I've noticed. Silver is a reasonable replacement for heather gray (though I like heather gray better). Slate is just a slightly lighter asphalt or a slightly darker silver whichever you prefer. Tweeners are never really useful. IT's not different enough from either to add anything. The only real benefit is for people who want a darkish gray shirt and dark ink. It'll be more visible than on asphalt.

That said, it really doesn't add anything to the repertoire. A new color would. Not everyone likes bold colors but for all that there are shirts that just look better on orange or yellow or red. People rarely use them, but that doesn't mean the option shouldn't be out there. Purple would add an entirely new dimension for some designers. Slate is a miniscule deviation from what we already have.

This was exactly what I wanted to say. Silver is nice. Slate is superfluous. I want a purple shirt.

I like your other idea about replacing creme with some other light neutral colours. I have several creme shirts from shirt.woot with fantastic designs, but I'm not a big fan of the colour itself.

Gold (i.e. a deeper, brighter yellow than lemon) would also be super awesome.

Since there are so many greys now, and someone said that slate is really close to asphalt... would it be bad to just retire asphalt completely? Or would that be a super unpopular decision, considering how it's one of the most popular shirt colours around here (unless things have changed during my indefinite hiatus from the derby and forums)?

eHalcyon wrote:Since there are so many greys now, and someone said that slate is really close to asphalt... would it be bad to just retire asphalt completely? Or would that be a super unpopular decision, considering how it's one of the most popular shirt colours around here (unless things have changed during my indefinite hiatus from the derby and forums)?

Good luck with that. I'm honestly shocked we got new colors except that it was motivated by "we sell a lot of asphalt. If we had more asphalts we could sell way more shirts." Eggplant sounds like an excellent compromise on purple but asphalt is going nowhere. I feel like there are more prints than there used to be on asphalt. I honestly wouldn't care what colors were available if they finally killed cream. Also glad to see you're back. Here I was thinking you had been taken to the glue factory.

graffd02 wrote:Now I have to go to my closet and tell My only Orange Shirt that He will NEVER have a friend... Thanks Woot!...

I love that shirt. Although it does look like he might eat a friend ; )

Goodbye orange. You will be missed. I kept hoping that there's be an orange design I liked because I'm short on that color. It just wasn't meant to be.

When one door closes, another one opens. Yay for new colors!

Heather grey~! T_T You guys were my best hook up for good heather grey shirts. I neeeed that texture to hide a very embarrassing secret! Now how am I going to go to work and pretend I don't suffer from dandruff?!

This is a sad day for me.

But oh, on the subject, yeah, can we have pink or purple?

Anyone with a really cool eye for colors want to update a nice template set like Cho's old style with the new colors?

Pretty please?

mrwednesday wrote:Good luck with that. I'm honestly shocked we got new colors except that it was motivated by "we sell a lot of asphalt. If we had more asphalts we could sell way more shirts." Eggplant sounds like an excellent compromise on purple but asphalt is going nowhere. I feel like there are more prints than there used to be on asphalt. I honestly wouldn't care what colors were available if they finally killed cream. Also glad to see you're back. Here I was thinking you had been taken to the glue factory.

Not actually back, but I appreciate the sentiment. :P

ProfHotpants wrote:

I took a quick photo of the three grays next to each other. They really are very different. In addition to being a mid-gray, the Slate color has a bluish tint.

Great photo, this definitely shows how different they are. I must say I do like the slate!

The silver's lighter than it looks on the I need a lift!. How translucent is it?

ProfHotpants wrote:

I took a quick photo of the three grays next to each other. They really are very different. In addition to being a mid-gray, the Slate color has a bluish tint.

does the pic match the colours in the template? if the colours in the pic are anything close to reality, mabe both slate and silver on the template / colour sample should be a little lighter?

ProfHotpants wrote:

I took a quick photo of the three grays next to each other. They really are very different. In addition to being a mid-gray, the Slate color has a bluish tint.

Looking at my current shirts, I really don't like silver much. It's really light and pretty drab looking. I don't have any colored designs but I can't see a lot of colors looking good on it like they did on heather gray. It also looks even more painfully drab with grayscale designs. While I don't think we needed slate, I think it will work out. I'm pretty sure after people see more things on silver it'll be less used than the heather gray was.

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After looking at the derby, I'm not terribly shocked how many people went for the new colors. I really appreciate the people who didn't. Most of the slate designs look ok. There's one design that I think did a really good job with silver. There are a few decentish looking ones, but most of the silver designs really don't look good. Very poor contrast and often very poor color choices. I don't think people really appreciate how difficult silver really is to design on.

mrwednesday wrote:Looking at my current shirts, I really don't like silver much. It's really light and pretty drab looking. I don't have any colored designs but I can't see a lot of colors looking good on it like they did on heather gray. It also looks even more painfully drab with grayscale designs. While I don't think we needed slate, I think it will work out. I'm pretty sure after people see more things on silver it'll be less used than the heather gray was.

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After looking at the derby, I'm not terribly shocked how many people went for the new colors. I really appreciate the people who didn't. Most of the slate designs look ok. There's one design that I think did a really good job with silver. There are a few decentish looking ones, but most of the silver designs really don't look good. Very poor contrast and often very poor color choices. I don't think people really appreciate how difficult silver really is to design on.

Silver's not that bad. It needs to be treated a bit more like white though. If anything, maybe it will be a good enough replacement for the anti-white crowd. Slate is my personal favorite of the three. It's a friendlier color than asphalt but dark enough that it will hopefully make asphalt unnecessary.

ProfHotpants wrote:The colors are never going to match perfectly in a photo vs. the template colors. There's different color models, slight variations in dye lots, the color lamp the photographer is standing under... just a ton of variables.

The template is closer to the true colors of the shirts. I just snapped the photo quickly to illustrate the differences between the grays. I did not color-correct the photo at all.

the reason i asked originally was because (at least on my monitor) the pic shows significantly more contrast between asphalt and slate than the template does. just to clarify.

I love the idea of more colors coming to woot, even if woot is now over 25% greyscale. Silver and slate are both great blanks to work with. But so are heather and orange. While Heather Grey is arguably the same as silver (in the same way that a sundae with whipped cream is the same as a sundae with whipped cream and jimmies), there is no color like orange except other oranges.

It's even more painful an omission when one realizes how few bright colors woot really has. White, Silver, Slate, Asphalt, Black... all greyscale. Navy? Brown? Olive? Great colors, but all dark. Creme? Also love it, also muted. So what we have of rich, bold colors are:

Red
Royal Blue
Lemon
Grass
Kelly green
Baby Blue
Cranberry

And arguably baby is too pale and cranberry/kelly too deep to be bright. So over 50% are dark/muted, without question, and only 25% are mostly inarguably bright.

Is it a cost thing? Probably. And what does that tell you? How vastly different is gold from lemon? how different is purple or orange from anything else? Simply put, this move is all about profit and all against artists. No other tee had the texture of Heather Grey, and no other has the brightness of orange, or simply the -orangeness-, which is reason enough to keep it. If woot can't afford to stick two likely vastly more popular colors in ALONGSIDE orange, instead of in place of it, I am baffled. There is no financial harm to a company this large to keep orange. It is only artistic harm taking it away. After all, look at that list of actually saturated and light colors. How often do we really see most of those? The goal should be diversifying... get more great tees in unique colors. Forcing even more flat greyscale into the mix is incredibly symbolic in all the worst ways.

AdderXYU wrote:Is it a cost thing? Probably.

Cost of storage, I'd say. Since they can't say what color every derby winner would be, they have to keep adequate stock of every color, every size.

16 colors X 15 sizes X 1,000 each stock = 240,000 shirts. Factor in that they will sell out of popular sizes sooner, that only adds to their inventory. 300k+ blank shirts in stock, I won't be surprised.

More colors, more stock needed ... and they might not have the warehouse space for that.

Narfcake wrote:Cost of storage, I'd say. Since they can't say what color every derby winner would be, they have to keep adequate stock of every color, every size.

16 colors X 15 sizes X 1,000 each stock = 240,000 shirts. Factor in that they will sell out of popular sizes sooner, that only adds to their inventory. 300k+ blank shirts in stock, I won't be surprised.

More colors, more stock needed ... and they might not have the warehouse space for that.

this assumes they stock every shirt color and size with the same level of inventory, which I would think they'd have numbers telling them they don't need to do

Darquis wrote:this assumes they stock every shirt color and size with the same level of inventory, which I would think they'd have numbers telling them they don't need to do

Well, the corollary is that some colors they'd have to stock a lot more of. How many designs on asphalt shirts are there in a month?