swpruitt


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Just dropped back by this thread and a little confused. Are first days shirts really coming on AA blanks?

thumperchick


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swpruitt wrote:Just dropped back by this thread and a little confused. Are first days shirts really coming on AA blanks?



For a short while, we had the option of either AA, or Anvil. But that option is gone again.

dreamaster


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thumperchick wrote:For a short while, we had the option of either AA, or Anvil. But that option is gone again.



Yep, and my bank account has recovered after buying 150 bucks worth of t-shirts in the short time it was available.

Woot lost out on five sales so far since then.

But hey, ya'll don't need my money...

Winona


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dreamaster wrote:Yep, and my bank account has recovered after buying 150 bucks worth of t-shirts in the short time it was available.

Woot lost out on five sales so far since then.

But hey, ya'll don't need my money...



Right on, today's awesome design was the second in a week that I passed by. AA sucks. Give me the option. I will pay the $2!

Mavyn


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Winona wrote:Right on, today's awesome design was the second in a week that I passed by. AA sucks. Give me the option. I will pay the $2!



Ummm...If AA sucks, then good news! They're back to printing ONLY on Anvil, instead of offering the choice of AA for a few bucks more.

My speech is not parsing. I am speaking in ellipsis.

Narfcake


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Mavyn wrote:Ummm...If AA sucks, then good news! They're back to printing ONLY on Anvil, instead of offering the choice of AA for a few bucks more.


I believe it's mistaken identity of shirt brands, as this post is suggesting the opposite.

On another note, I had the (dis)pleasure of seeing in person (at the thrift store) how the kid's shirts looks after washing/drying. Using my hand span for measuring, the K6 yielded about 15" chest, 15" length and the K8 yielded about 17" chest, 18" in length ... and I can't quite fathom that belly shirts are back in style. Left them there - shirts weren't faded or anything, so at the very most, they were worn a couple times. While it's possible that Fiery Autumn Colors was a discounted random, Trust Me! is still in the reckoning, so someone paid at least $12 for it ... and it's unwanted already; I don't think they'll be back buying another shirt here.

Just another minor statistic to add, that's all.

Primordial


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I just stopped by to see how WOOT was doing after not checking in for about a year. See, I stopped coming here after they lied to us, said they were raising pricing to keep shirts manufactured in America, then switched to low quality ill-fitting shirts just a few months later. I am pretty sure I was in their top 50, maybe top 10, shirt buyers before the betrayal. Now I see they played the suckers game of offering AA again if you pay even more……lol, what greed. Its ok though, I have about 7 other shirt-of-the-day sites I check now and I have bought hundreds of shirts there, instead of here. They also lost all my business in the rest of the Woot universe as well, which was also quite substantial. I have to say, I don’t miss them at all, I am getting better quality shirts and just as, if not more, cool shirts. To all you suckers still buying here after they spit in your face….well good luck with your unraveling belly shirts.




1. Wet || Slippery When 3/8/12
2. All Sails Ahead 3/2/12
3. The Year of the Plumber 2/25/11
4. Lucky at Last 2/17/
5. Ghost Writer 1/12/12 1
6. Too Many Scoops 12/31/11 2
7. Ugly Holiday Sweater 2011 12/5/11 1
8. Run Away! Run Away! 11/17/11 1
9. Hats That Are Hatty 11/9/11 1
10. Changing Sides 11/6/11 1
11. 13th Gloom Street - Tote 10/14/11 2
12. Haunted Scarecrow 10/14/11 1
13. Click or Treat 10/12/11 1
14. Scrub, My Pretty 10/6/11 1
15. The Cheese is a Liederkranz 9/24/11 1
16. The Cheese is a Liederkranz 9/23/11 1
17. The Binge 9/19/11 1
18. The End Is The Beginning 9/2/11 3
19. Straw, Sticks, & Bricks BBQ 7/30/11 1
20. Sugar Skull 6/22/11 2
21. Playful Foxes 6/9/11 1
22. Ro-boss 6/6/11 1
23. 3037 5/21/11 2
24. Humanity Gets Voted Off 5/10/11 1
25. Two Queens 5/7/11 3
26. See No Evil 4/28/11 1
27. Minor Modifications 4/15/11 2
28. Rainy Souls 4/1/11 1
29. Don't Look Back, I've Got You 3/27/11 1
30. World 1-1 Building 3/24/11 1
31. Magic Lamp 3/19/11 1
32. They call me… Tim 3/18/11 1
33. Cooler Than You 3/9/11 1
34. Unstealthiest Ninja 3/4/11 1
35. Just a little paint 3/3/11 1
36. Retrobot 3/3/11 1
37. Odd Bear Out 2/20/11 1
38. Thunderbird 2/12/11 2
39. Ugly Holiday Sweater 2010 12/23/10 2
40. Sky Invader 12/14/10 1
41. Like A Lightbulb 12/13/10 1
42. Last Flight Home 12/7/10 1
43. Test Tube Baby 12/6/10 1
44. Warm and Cozy 11/30/10 1
45. Dead Air 11/23/10 1
46. The Hungry Igloo 11/12/10 1
47. Transitions 10/29/10 1
48. Four Little Ponies of the Apocalypse 10/20/10 2
49. The Tag Along 10/20/10 1
50. 5 Second Rule 10/20/10 1
51. Trick Or Treat 10/18/10 2
52. Imposter 9/21/10 1
53. The Binge 9/21/10 1
54. NightLife 8/31/10 1
55. I Bet It’s Better There… 8/21/10 1
56. The Black Hole 8/7/10 3
57. brn2pwn 8/3/10 2
58. Pup In Training 7/23/10 1
59. Orbital Model of the Carbon Atom 7/17/10 1
60. Escape the city 7/9/10 1
61. Random Shirt 7/5/10 3
62. Schrodinger’s Cat 6/5/10 1
63. Squeeze 5/22/10 1
64. Lunch Break 5/19/10 1
65. Ask Again Later 4/30/10 1
66. Nature's Harmony 4/26/10 2
67. The Original B-Boy 4/8/10 1
68. Deep Blue Space 4/3/10 1
69. Pinball Wizard 3/30/10 1
70. My Lucky Day 3/13/10 1
71. Sliced Bread 3/6/10 1
72. Steam Heart 2/6/10 1
73. The Sleep of Reason Produces Flying Turtles 1/23/10 1
74. Alien Invader 1/19/10 1
75. Ugly Winter Sweater 12/24/09 1
76. Oops I missed, let me try again 12/12/09 1
77. Winning the Race 12/11/09 2
78. Going Away Is The Bluebird 12/4/09 1
79. Giving from the heart 11/19/09 1
80. Zombie Vampire Robots from Space 11/18/09 1
81. Computer Mice 10/30/09 2
82. 13th Gloom Street 10/19/09 1
83. Illustrated Ratings Guide 10/14/09 1
84. Gummistone Park 10/9/09 3
85. Fiery Autumn Colors 9/5/09 1
86. PAINata 9/3/09 1
87. When Asteroids Strike 7/9/09 1
88. The Last Day 6/19/09 2
89. Pandora’s Friends and Galaxy 5/24/09 2
90. The Breakfast Club 4/28/09 2
91. Navy Seals 4/14/09 1
92. Basic Training 3/15/09 2
93. I wish… 3/13/09 1
94. 200 3/2/09 1
95. The Convenient Tiny Chair 2/22/09 1
96. Battle Fungale 2/12/09 1
97. Birth of the Moon 1/10/09 2
98. Grim Optimism 12/19/08 1
99. Binge Rat 12/18/08 1
100. Two Fish Who Are Red And Blue 12/12/08 1
101. 404 Heart Not Found 12/11/08 1
102. Collateral Hamage 11/24/08 1
103. Fee! Fie! Foe! Fum! 10/25/08 1
104. Undead Whispers 10/23/08 1
105. The Frankensteins 10/22/08 1
106. Can You Spell BRAAAINS! 10/11/08 1
107. Friends Are Forever 9/17/08 3
108. Jimmy… Is That You? 9/6/08 1
109. Tin: Old Skool 9/6/08 1
110. Oh Burned!!! 9/6/08 1
111. Oh Burned!!! 9/6/08 3
112. The Cycle of Life 9/3/08 1
113. Hungry Bento 8/30/08 2
114. Energy Harvester 8/1/08 2
115. Eyes Cream Sundae 7/24/08 1
116. At Last We Meet . . . 6/27/08 2
117. 1986: The Legend Was Born 6/22/08 1
118. Road Closed 6/22/08 1
119. Suburban Blitzkrieg 6/22/08 2
120. 335 Woolloomoo Way 6/20/08 1
121. Zombeer 6/16/08 1
122. Road Closed 6/12/08 1
123. PB and Jellyfish 6/10/08 1
124. Army in my Pocket 6/9/08 1
125. Finding Technicolor 6/9/08 1
126. Zombie Season 6/9/08 1
127. Sublimican Republic 6/7/08 1
128. Decibliterated 6/5/08 1
129. Oh Burned!!! 6/1/08 2
130. Skullngry 5/28/08 1
131. Alpha Battle 5/14/08 1
132. Mister Bobo, Masonic Dyna-Monkey 5/12/08 1
133. Chest Of Nightmares 5/6/08 1
134. Treacherous Waters 4/29/08 1
135. PolarSnugglePhant 4/29/08 1

Narfcake


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Primordial wrote:... Its ok though, I have about 7 other shirt-of-the-day sites I check now and I have bought hundreds of shirts there, instead of here. ...


If you don't mind me asking - which other sites?

As many know here, I'm not a fan of the newer blanks at all, but IMHO, they still rank higher compared to what some of the other sites use.

davemays123


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Primordial wrote:...after they lied to us, said they were raising pricing to keep shirts manufactured in America...



You can keep repeating this, but it doesn't make it true.

They said they were raising prices to increase profit margin while maintaining quality. You may have inferred (as I did) that this meant they would keep the AA blanks, but they never said that they would.

thumperchick


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davemays123 wrote:You can keep repeating this, but it doesn't make it true.

They said they were raising prices to increase profit margin while maintaining quality. You may have inferred (as I did) that this meant they would keep the AA blanks, but they never said that they would.



That is true. Wooters kept saying that is what the price increase was for, but Woot never said it.
However; they also never corrected anyone who said it.

dreamaster


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davemays123 wrote:You can keep repeating this, but it doesn't make it true.

They said they were raising prices to increase profit margin while maintaining quality. You may have inferred (as I did) that this meant they would keep the AA blanks, but they never said that they would.



They said they would maintain quality.

they lied.

sthomas04


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Ordered a shirt a few weeks ago, women's size large, when I received it, I was surprised it didn't fit or look like it would fit to the previous ones I've ordered. Now I realize they changed the sizing to be more "built for ladies." Must be all men deciding that size chart cause the shirt is now much wider than it used to be. I can't think of any females who want WIDER shirts. The whole difference between men;s and women's sizing is in the width - we like this fitted, not frumpy.

sthomas04


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neuropsychosocial wrote:Basically, there isn't one. I wore an AA WM and the Anvil WS is much too large for me, as is the MS. The K12 is too short.



I also fit perfectly in a WM, so disappointed in the new size, probably won't be ordering any more shirts.

sthomas04


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Primordial wrote:I took the next step in my breakup with woot (insert pillow biting)….I removed them from my “favorites” toolbar bar on which I have 7 shirt sites displayed, each of which I check every day. They were, in order woot, teefury, theyetee, shirtpunch, riptapparel, captainkyso, and goodjoe. Now I will admit I have been back here a lot, complaining and making my outrage known, but I have NOT purchased 1 thing from woot or shirt.woot, and I plan on keeping my resolve not to. The fact that so many people are complaining about the quality of the Anvil shirts makes it much, much easier, as otherwise there would have been at 12-20 shirts that I would have WANTED to purchased at woot. You made the breakup easy woot, and to be sure I will have fond memories (many of which hang in my closet) but I will never forget the betrayal, and the magnitude of sheer arrogance of shirt.woot, and by extension of the whole woot universe.



Well said, and thanks for listing the other sites that have awesome tee's!

gsedlak


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Primordial wrote:I just stopped by to see how WOOT was doing after not checking in for about a year. See, I stopped coming here after they lied to us, said they were raising pricing to keep shirts manufactured in America, then switched to low quality ill-fitting shirts just a few months later. I am pretty sure I was in their top 50, maybe top 10, shirt buyers before the betrayal. Now I see they played the suckers game of offering AA again if you pay even more……lol, what greed. Its ok though, I have about 7 other shirt-of-the-day sites I check now and I have bought hundreds of shirts there, instead of here. They also lost all my business in the rest of the Woot universe as well, which was also quite substantial. I have to say, I don’t miss them at all, I am getting better quality shirts and just as, if not more, cool shirts. To all you suckers still buying here after they spit in your face….well good luck with your unraveling belly shirts.




1. Wet || Slippery When 3/8/12
2. All Sails Ahead 3/2/12
3. The Year of the Plumber 2/25/11
4. Lucky at Last 2/17/
5. Ghost Writer 1/12/12 1
6. Too Many Scoops 12/31/11 2
7. Ugly Holiday Sweater 2011 12/5/11 1
8. Run Away! Run Away! 11/17/11 1
9. Hats That Are Hatty 11/9/11 1
10. Changing Sides 11/6/11 1
11. 13th Gloom Street - Tote 10/14/11 2
12. Haunted Scarecrow 10/14/11 1
13. Click or Treat 10/12/11 1
14. Scrub, My Pretty 10/6/11 1
15. The Cheese is a Liederkranz 9/24/11 1
16. The Cheese is a Liederkranz 9/23/11 1
17. The Binge 9/19/11 1
18. The End Is The Beginning 9/2/11 3
19. Straw, Sticks, & Bricks BBQ 7/30/11 1
20. Sugar Skull 6/22/11 2
21. Playful Foxes 6/9/11 1
22. Ro-boss 6/6/11 1
23. 3037 5/21/11 2
24. Humanity Gets Voted Off 5/10/11 1
25. Two Queens 5/7/11 3
26. See No Evil 4/28/11 1
27. Minor Modifications 4/15/11 2
28. Rainy Souls 4/1/11 1
29. Don't Look Back, I've Got You 3/27/11 1
30. World 1-1 Building 3/24/11 1
31. Magic Lamp 3/19/11 1
32. They call me… Tim 3/18/11 1
33. Cooler Than You 3/9/11 1
34. Unstealthiest Ninja 3/4/11 1
35. Just a little paint 3/3/11 1
36. Retrobot 3/3/11 1
37. Odd Bear Out 2/20/11 1
38. Thunderbird 2/12/11 2
39. Ugly Holiday Sweater 2010 12/23/10 2
40. Sky Invader 12/14/10 1
41. Like A Lightbulb 12/13/10 1
42. Last Flight Home 12/7/10 1
43. Test Tube Baby 12/6/10 1
44. Warm and Cozy 11/30/10 1
45. Dead Air 11/23/10 1
46. The Hungry Igloo 11/12/10 1
47. Transitions 10/29/10 1
48. Four Little Ponies of the Apocalypse 10/20/10 2
49. The Tag Along 10/20/10 1
50. 5 Second Rule 10/20/10 1
51. Trick Or Treat 10/18/10 2
52. Imposter 9/21/10 1
53. The Binge 9/21/10 1
54. NightLife 8/31/10 1
55. I Bet It’s Better There… 8/21/10 1
56. The Black Hole 8/7/10 3
57. brn2pwn 8/3/10 2
58. Pup In Training 7/23/10 1
59. Orbital Model of the Carbon Atom 7/17/10 1
60. Escape the city 7/9/10 1
61. Random Shirt 7/5/10 3
62. Schrodinger’s Cat 6/5/10 1
63. Squeeze 5/22/10 1
64. Lunch Break 5/19/10 1
65. Ask Again Later 4/30/10 1
66. Nature's Harmony 4/26/10 2
67. The Original B-Boy 4/8/10 1
68. Deep Blue Space 4/3/10 1
69. Pinball Wizard 3/30/10 1
70. My Lucky Day 3/13/10 1
71. Sliced Bread 3/6/10 1
72. Steam Heart 2/6/10 1
73. The Sleep of Reason Produces Flying Turtles 1/23/10 1
74. Alien Invader 1/19/10 1
75. Ugly Winter Sweater 12/24/09 1
76. Oops I missed, let me try again 12/12/09 1
77. Winning the Race 12/11/09 2
78. Going Away Is The Bluebird 12/4/09 1
79. Giving from the heart 11/19/09 1
80. Zombie Vampire Robots from Space 11/18/09 1
81. Computer Mice 10/30/09 2
82. 13th Gloom Street 10/19/09 1
83. Illustrated Ratings Guide 10/14/09 1
84. Gummistone Park 10/9/09 3
85. Fiery Autumn Colors 9/5/09 1
86. PAINata 9/3/09 1
87. When Asteroids Strike 7/9/09 1
88. The Last Day 6/19/09 2
89. Pandora’s Friends and Galaxy 5/24/09 2
90. The Breakfast Club 4/28/09 2
91. Navy Seals 4/14/09 1
92. Basic Training 3/15/09 2
93. I wish… 3/13/09 1
94. 200 3/2/09 1
95. The Convenient Tiny Chair 2/22/09 1
96. Battle Fungale 2/12/09 1
97. Birth of the Moon 1/10/09 2
98. Grim Optimism 12/19/08 1
99. Binge Rat 12/18/08 1
100. Two Fish Who Are Red And Blue 12/12/08 1
101. 404 Heart Not Found 12/11/08 1
102. Collateral Hamage 11/24/08 1
103. Fee! Fie! Foe! Fum! 10/25/08 1
104. Undead Whispers 10/23/08 1
105. The Frankensteins 10/22/08 1
106. Can You Spell BRAAAINS! 10/11/08 1
107. Friends Are Forever 9/17/08 3
108. Jimmy… Is That You? 9/6/08 1
109. Tin: Old Skool 9/6/08 1
110. Oh Burned!!! 9/6/08 1
111. Oh Burned!!! 9/6/08 3
112. The Cycle of Life 9/3/08 1
113. Hungry Bento 8/30/08 2
114. Energy Harvester 8/1/08 2
115. Eyes Cream Sundae 7/24/08 1
116. At Last We Meet . . . 6/27/08 2
117. 1986: The Legend Was Born 6/22/08 1
118. Road Closed 6/22/08 1
119. Suburban Blitzkrieg 6/22/08 2
120. 335 Woolloomoo Way 6/20/08 1
121. Zombeer 6/16/08 1
122. Road Closed 6/12/08 1
123. PB and Jellyfish 6/10/08 1
124. Army in my Pocket 6/9/08 1
125. Finding Technicolor 6/9/08 1
126. Zombie Season 6/9/08 1
127. Sublimican Republic 6/7/08 1
128. Decibliterated 6/5/08 1
129. Oh Burned!!! 6/1/08 2
130. Skullngry 5/28/08 1
131. Alpha Battle 5/14/08 1
132. Mister Bobo, Masonic Dyna-Monkey 5/12/08 1
133. Chest Of Nightmares 5/6/08 1
134. Treacherous Waters 4/29/08 1
135. PolarSnugglePhant 4/29/08 1




I too would love to know the other sites that you have been going to with AA blanks.

Narfcake


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gsedlak wrote:I too would love to know the other sites that you have been going to with AA blanks.



Of the ones Primordial listed previously (requoted in above post), only GoodJoe does.

My opinions, strictly on the men's shirt blanks ...

TeeFury = Alstyle 1701. Medium weight but no longer ringspun by default, the best thing going is that the necklines are tight and they barely shrink.
TheYetee = varies.
ShirtPunch = Gildan 2000 or 64000. The former is your basic heavy carded open-ended cotton t-shirt that's a step above promo t-shirts, the latter qualifies as the shortest length and the least soft of the major brands for lightweight ringspun shirts.
RipT = Tultex 0202. Basic lightweight ringspun shirts, these are on par with the Anvil 980 shirts used here at Woot, but with slightly tighter necklines and less shrinkage these days.
KYSO = sews their own. I have yet to find out how their new sizing is and I doubt I ever will.
GoodJoe = AA 2001. The standard which many of us go by.

Other sites not mentioned:
Threadless = mostly supplied by Anvil nowadays, manufactured to Threadless' specs. The USA sourced shirts are by Canvas/Bella, which I like the fabric but the stretchy neckline is a downside for me.
DBH = mostly Next Level 3600. Closest to AA in terms of fit, but feels a bit thinner and not made in the USA. They are very very soft, though - if AA is a 9 for softness, then NL is a 11. These are the only shirts I've experienced that get longer when line dried.
TeeTurtle = mostly Next Level 3600. See above.

Primordial


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davemays123 wrote:You can keep repeating this, but it doesn't make it true.

They said they were raising prices to increase profit margin while maintaining quality. You may have inferred (as I did) that this meant they would keep the AA blanks, but they never said that they would.



Dave, you can keep distorting the context of what they said, but they absolutely said that they would “maintain” the quality of the shirts, which they advertised the brand of and that they were made in America. Maybe you don’t know the definition of the word maintain, so let me help you.

“to keep in existence or continuance; preserve; retain, to keep in a specified state”

So the clearly said they would “maintain” quality, and they did not, so they lied. They had the gall to raise the prices right before that saying they would do that. Whether or not they specifically said they would stay with AA is not the issue, anyone reading what was posted inferred that, and of course it was written so we would infer that. If you want to be their apologist go right ahead, I made my decision and I stuck to it.


Primordial


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Narfcake wrote:If you don't mind me asking - which other sites?

As many know here, I'm not a fan of the newer blanks at all, but IMHO, they still rank higher compared to what some of the other sites use.



Here are the shirt sites I visit regularly now. The bottom 3 are sites that list shirts from a ton of daily sites, so I check there occasionally too. By the way, Narfcake replied below with a list of sites I have posted in the past, very close to this one. I will address his post in a response to him directly, but suffice it to say, I have seen Narfcake participate heavily here, he is a knowledgeable and active community member, and I don’t disagree with the fact that most, if not all of the other sites are not using shirts made in America or up the AA standards. That is not my issue, and never was. One of the things I liked about woot was that they made their shirts in America. I believe they have the money (Amazon) to have kept using an American company and still turn a profit. They choose not to do that, and I choose not to buy from them for that reason. Maybe I held them to a higher standard, as I have a right to do. Others may complain about my reasons, as they have a right to do, just know that I could care less. Besides, woot has turned into a mess now; they have 1 a day everything, and you can order the whole back catalogue of shirts. They lost anything that made them special to me.




http://www.teefury.com/
http://theyetee.com/
https://www.shirtpunch.com/
https://www.riptapparel.com/
http://www.anotherfinetee.com/
http://www.nowherebad.com/


http://shirtoid.com/
http://www.feistees.com/
http://www.teeminator.com/

Primordial


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Narfcake wrote:Of the ones Primordial listed previously (requoted in above post), only GoodJoe does.

My opinions, strictly on the men's shirt blanks ...

TeeFury = Alstyle 1701. Medium weight but no longer ringspun by default, the best thing going is that the necklines are tight and they barely shrink.
TheYetee = varies.
ShirtPunch = Gildan 2000 or 64000. The former is your basic heavy carded open-ended cotton t-shirt that's a step above promo t-shirts, the latter qualifies as the shortest length and the least soft of the major brands for lightweight ringspun shirts.
RipT = Tultex 0202. Basic lightweight ringspun shirts, these are on par with the Anvil 980 shirts used here at Woot, but with slightly tighter necklines and less shrinkage these days.
KYSO = sews their own. I have yet to find out how their new sizing is and I doubt I ever will.
GoodJoe = AA 2001. The standard which many of us go by.

Other sites not mentioned:
Threadless = mostly supplied by Anvil nowadays, manufactured to Threadless' specs. The USA sourced shirts are by Canvas/Bella, which I like the fabric but the stretchy neckline is a downside for me.
DBH = mostly Next Level 3600. Closest to AA in terms of fit, but feels a bit thinner and not made in the USA. They are very very soft, though - if AA is a 9 for softness, then NL is a 11. These are the only shirts I've experienced that get longer when line dried.
TeeTurtle = mostly Next Level 3600. See above.



You clearly know a TON more about shirts than me, what sites use what shirts, and what the quality of those shirts are. I will say I don’t see anyone complaining about the way the shirts fit on those sites they way they have here in regards to women’s shirts. My issue is they took a great thing and trashed it for me in a couple ways. One, I like to support companies that support American companies. Maybe the other sites I buy from now also don’t use American made blanks, but I never was under the illusion they did. Woot made itself just another company to me when they made that change, they aren’t “worse” than those companies, but they are no longer better to me. When you add in the fact that they clearly inferred they would maintain the status quo, then I feel like I was lied to and cheated. When they ignored that fact that people were complaining about quality then they showed me they really don’t care about their customers at all. I don’t remember the groundswell of support for this change, but I certainly say many railed against it. Even Microsoft relented on “always on” and the ability to play xbone offline, as well as the start button features in Windows 8.1. Many people, especially women, were unhappy with this change, woot proved it didn’t care. Anyway, you are a very active and positive contributor to this community, and I thank you for responding with the listing of what shirts blanks the sites I listed use.

Primordial


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Narfcake wrote:Of the ones Primordial listed previously (requoted in above post), only GoodJoe does.

My opinions, strictly on the men's shirt blanks ...

TeeFury = Alstyle 1701. Medium weight but no longer ringspun by default, the best thing going is that the necklines are tight and they barely shrink.
TheYetee = varies.
ShirtPunch = Gildan 2000 or 64000. The former is your basic heavy carded open-ended cotton t-shirt that's a step above promo t-shirts, the latter qualifies as the shortest length and the least soft of the major brands for lightweight ringspun shirts.
RipT = Tultex 0202. Basic lightweight ringspun shirts, these are on par with the Anvil 980 shirts used here at Woot, but with slightly tighter necklines and less shrinkage these days.
KYSO = sews their own. I have yet to find out how their new sizing is and I doubt I ever will.
GoodJoe = AA 2001. The standard which many of us go by.

Other sites not mentioned:
Threadless = mostly supplied by Anvil nowadays, manufactured to Threadless' specs. The USA sourced shirts are by Canvas/Bella, which I like the fabric but the stretchy neckline is a downside for me.
DBH = mostly Next Level 3600. Closest to AA in terms of fit, but feels a bit thinner and not made in the USA. They are very very soft, though - if AA is a 9 for softness, then NL is a 11. These are the only shirts I've experienced that get longer when line dried.
TeeTurtle = mostly Next Level 3600. See above.



You clearly know a TON more about shirts than me, what sites use what shirts, and what the quality of those shirts are. I will say I don’t see anyone complaining about the way the shirts fit on those sites they way they have here in regards to women’s shirts. My issue is they took a great thing and trashed it for me in a couple ways. One, I like to support companies that support American companies. Maybe the other sites I buy from now also don’t use American made blanks, but I never was under the illusion they did. Woot made itself just another company to me when they made that change, they aren’t “worse” than those companies, but they are no longer better to me. When you add in the fact that they clearly inferred they would maintain the status quo, then I feel like I was lied to and cheated. When they ignored that fact that people were complaining about quality then they showed me they really don’t care about their customers at all. I don’t remember the groundswell of support for this change, but I certainly say many railed against it. Even Microsoft relented on “always on” and the ability to play xbone offline, as well as the start button features in Windows 8.1. Many people, especially women, were unhappy with this change, woot proved it didn’t care. Anyway, you are a very active and positive contributor to this community, and I thank you for responding with the listing of what shirts blanks the sites I listed use.

gsedlak


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had some troubles finding this post, it dropped to the back with all the AA supports having fully abandoned shirt.woot at this point...

Narfcake


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gsedlak wrote:had some troubles finding this post, it dropped to the back with all the AA supports having fully abandoned shirt.woot at this point...


We're still here, but we also realize there's only so much kvetching that could be done too.

I went through my laundry pile last night - of the 29 shirts, 21 are AA, 5 are Next Level, 2 Anvil, and 1 Canvas. By sites, 18 Woot (16 AA), 4 TeeTurtle (1 AA), 4 GoodJoe (All AA), 2 DBH, and 1 Threadless.

dioxazine


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When the swap happened, I tried one of the new female anvil shirts thinking... psh, couldn't be THAT bad... lol. Wrong.. so wrong.

Then I tried the men's small, which was too big (even after trying to shrink the bugger!) but I still loved some of the artist's designs here so I tried two of those til I finally gave up.

I felt kind of forced to go to the other sites due to the lack of sizing for smaller women here but I have to say, I found a new love for Teefury. The shirts aren't quite as thick as AA, but they are super soft, actually fit and have survived plenty of washes without falling apart. They also seem a bit longer.

I've also tried Goodjoe and Teeturtle.

I was told that Goodjoe's shirts were the same as the AA here, but when I ordered some, they actually seem thinner. They were soft and I liked it as much as Teefury but I had some printing issues with them and felt their prices were too high.

Teeturtle had a slow turn around and I didn't care for the quality of the shirt as much.

I really wish woot would have kept the AA shirts here, something so simple killed a good thing.

trekmiss


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I'm leaving the country in 6 months. I'm hoping for more purple shirts, another trial run of AA, or a switch back to AA. Along with that, I'm hoping for designs I'm willing to buy. In the AA trial run, there was only one design I wanted, and, of course, it came up on a day I didn't have Internet access. I really want some new shirts to take with me.

gsedlak


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I got one of the DBH 50/50 blend shirts and holy cow is that a soft shirt. i have been wearing it around the house for last two days lol. I may need to consider washing it soon lol

dreamaster


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Still no word on the Number cruncher results?

I have money, I want shirts. Just not ill fitting crappy anvil shirts.

Narfcake


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From a couple weeks ago, founder and ex-CEO @snapster: did my woot friends ever bring back American apparel shirts or are they still the suckage wide collar ones?

radiostatic


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humbleseagoat wrote:Just received 5 shirts from Woot this afternoon, and I stumbled upon this thread.

Where's Trollface Hiding?. I took a year-long break from Woot and only returned because of the change in season. I figured I buy some new shirts for the summer, and wasn't aware of the new policy in place.

Let me tell you, WooT. I would NOT have purchased these 5 shirts had I known about this prior to checking them out. It's too late for me to return them as I was overly excited and opened the bags.

I know Anvil and I know AA. And I know by this time, next year, these shirts will be designated to gym material, because I'll bet the house they won't last, while the AA woot shirts I still own can still be worn anywhere.

I'm so mad right now. I feel like such a sucker.



I'm in the same position. Ordered 4 shirts the other week, I have yet to receive them but I'm not looking forward to it anymore. I purchased them as a gift because I ordered one ages ago and still have it because the material has held up really well for me. Never crossed my mind to check and see if the tshirt material has changed.. so annoyed with myself now. Was tired of getting shirts which don't last due to the cheap material that is being used. Thought woot was different and better because of my previous experience. Would not have ordered if I had seen this thread. UGH!

dreamaster


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So, I guess we're just gonna be ignored?

No results from the AA test?

Please check my buying history. It's folks like me that helped woot rock.

274 items purchased from woot - none purchased after the anvil issue, or after the the AA test.

I've spent a few thousand on woot - while I got what I wanted.

I'd like to meet the person that decided on the switch to anvil shirts. Then I'd love to do this with them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9SSOWORzw4

(the guy with the two little fish is woot deciding to taunt us by not answering about AA coming back, the other guy is me, slapping my wallet shut and hoping woot drowns in a river of doom)

k3nd0


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WTB AA blanks for DTG prints.

ladydunn


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PLEASE bring back the original AA shirts. I would pay more for the better quality. Woot shirts used to last and last. The current shirts wear out, don't feel as soft and designs fade after a few washings. QUALITY matters!

Please and thank you!

jroth420


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dreamaster wrote:So, I guess we're just gonna be ignored?

No results from the AA test?

Please check my buying history. It's folks like me that helped woot rock.

274 items purchased from woot - none purchased after the anvil issue, or after the the AA test.

I've spent a few thousand on woot - while I got what I wanted.

I'd like to meet the person that decided on the switch to anvil shirts. Then I'd love to do this with them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9SSOWORzw4

(the guy with the two little fish is woot deciding to taunt us by not answering about AA coming back, the other guy is me, slapping my wallet shut and hoping woot drowns in a river of doom)



Deaf ears my friend. Woot no longer cares about it's customers, if they ever did.

dreamaster


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jroth420 wrote:Deaf ears my friend. Woot no longer cares about it's customers, if they ever did.



Woot cared about their customers in the past - that's a fact.

They had a monitor they sold that I bought - with the 100 dollar rebate it was a STEAL at the time.

Well, the rebate people refused to honor the rebates and the folks at woot stepped up and lost a crapload of cash honoring the rebates that they weren't really responsible for.

That's why i brought all my friends and family to woot.

And that's why I'm so upset at the jerwits in charge that are scamming us over these lousy t-shirts.

Way to waste a customer base woot after amazon. I'd say you all shot yourself in the foot - but that usually is used in referenced by a gun instead of the tactical nuclear device you all used that is Anvil...

shigenoreece


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Kinda late entry, but here are my thoughts.

I used to love buying woot shirts for may daughter. Now, I have 3 kids, I thought I'd get them some shirts at a premium price (3 glow in the dark bunny shirts). The neck hole is so wide that one side of their shoulders is always exposed. Also, the shirts are just too short. My kids are short for their age and I could almost see their belly buttons. They hardly ever wear their shirts. My youngest son does love wearing 2 of the AA kids size we still have and they are at least 3 years old, in much better shape than newer shirts.

Another thing, their customer service sucks now, too. They can't fulfill the order correctly. During woot off, I saw blank AA 3 packs. So, I got some for my kids. Let me say it again, I ordered a "3-Pack". When the package arrived, there was one shirt in it. I contacted customer service and told them the situation. I received another package 2-3 weeks later with one more shirt in it. I told woot of this situation, but they just stopped responding.

I haven't bought a thing from them since.


jroth420


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shigenoreece wrote:Kinda late entry, but here are my thoughts.

I used to love buying woot shirts for may daughter. Now, I have 3 kids, I thought I'd get them some shirts at a premium price (3 glow in the dark bunny shirts). The neck hole is so wide that one side of their shoulders is always exposed. Also, the shirts are just too short. My kids are short for their age and I could almost see their belly buttons. They hardly ever wear their shirts. My youngest son does love wearing 2 of the AA kids size we still have and they are at least 3 years old, in much better shape than newer shirts.

Another thing, their customer service sucks now, too. They can't fulfill the order correctly. During woot off, I saw blank AA 3 packs. So, I got some for my kids. Let me say it again, I ordered a "3-Pack". When the package arrived, there was one shirt in it. I contacted customer service and told them the situation. I received another package 2-3 weeks later with one more shirt in it. I told woot of this situation, but they just stopped responding.

I haven't bought a thing from them since.



I agree, the customer service response time is terrible. I don't know what happened to the company. Oh wait, they got in bed with Amazon... Which doesn't make a ton of sense to me because I have always been pleased with my Amazon purchases.

nascent


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I'm flat out too scared to buy from Woot now. In the past I really loved their stuff and recommended them to my friends.

My last 2 purchases have been awful. One failed to turn up, customer service ignored my emails and eventually responded by saying they don't know what happened to the shirt, but they wont be sending another. Then ignored further emails.

The latest actually arrived, but was horrible. The size is insane. It's humongous, and the chest is far wider than the waist, the shape makes no sense. I had to keep checking to see if I had ordered a woman's tee by mistake, but alas it was definitely a men's tee. The neck was also insanely low.

There's no way I could wear it, and I'm a tall guy so I dread to think how it'd look on a shorter gentlemen. Of course when I email Woot to complain they ignored me.

I would've bought a few shirts recently, including today's Groovy shirt. But there's no way I can trust the product.

dreamaster


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So? Any number cruncher results to the Anvil vs AA sales?

Anyone at amawot want some cash from me?

Can we have tshirts that actually aren't painful to wear?

gsedlak


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why does woot/amazon hate us...

jroth420


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gsedlak wrote:why does woot/amazon hate us...



Excellent question. They have certainly changed and forgotten their roots. That's for sure.

Narfcake


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jroth420 wrote:Excellent question. They have certainly changed and forgotten their roots. That's for sure.


"One day, one deal."

Uh huh ...