fablefire wrote:I'm excited about women's shirts that will house my 36Cs sufficiently.
Which is why I would always go and get a men's medium. They fit perfectly. At least with AA.. I don't care if I'm female and should buy the 'female' sizes (ew, no, shorter sleeves), I'm willing to bet the new sizes will be too snug where I don't want them. I'd rather not have the outline of my bra showing from a mile away.
joelterrific wrote:Community is the backbone of Woot so as painful as this thread is to read, it's still strangely reassuring to be given the what's what from you all. Change like this isn't easy, and while I certainly don't expect a parade, I expect you to keep us honest and grounded while we continue to provide a world class platform for designers. Thanks for your feedback, your support and your business. I'll get back to my rampant profiteering and blatant disregard for decency. I might shout at a kitten or two for good measure.
If community is the backbone, why don't we get a say? I was fine with the price increased- surprised when I went to buy a shirt, a little sad that I'd have to pay another $2, but alright. It was justified. But now you're just trying to get money from every place possible. You're talking about honesty, and yet it's perfectly clear this is solely for cost reasons. AA is great. You're only doing this to raise a few more bucks. You sell I'm willing to guess like, ten thousand shirts a day, overall. (There's like, about 30 shirts for sale at the end of the week.) You don't have a lot of people's support, and I'm sure you'll lose business. Go change your FAQ. Please. They are NOT made in the USA, and that is one of the main reasons I buy from here. I'd rather pay $20 for an American made shirt than some outsourced place that, for all I know, is breaking labor laws and are made in sweatshops. I thought the backbone of Woot was American-made products. Apparently not.
Narfcake wrote:For those wondering the price difference ...
American Apparel 2001, $6.57 for 60+.
Anvil 980, $3.77 for 60+.
Keep in mind that these prices are NOT at the "I'm a huge customer" price level, but you can certainly see that there's a few bucks difference in it.
And that's only for 60. They'd only get cheaper when you buy more. Thanks for sharing.
trekmiss wrote:I've noticed the new size chart doesn't list a sleeve length. Can we get some measurements on the sleeve length? I'm also curious about the sleeve circumference compared to AA.
I'm wondering that too..
jeninmaine wrote:These Anvil shirts also knocked over a plant, pissed in my shoes and scratched up my favorite chair. They are very naughty.
Kill them! Kill them with fire!
azdarkknight wrote:It has been interesting reading this thread so far. From what I can tell -
1) The ladies welcome the change as AA appeared to not be a good fit
2) There has been no answer (or maybe avoidance) to questions as to why the price increased to cover the increased costs followed so swiftly by a change to a cheaper supplier that is not USA made.
Really though, did we expect anything different once Amazon got their hands on Woot? Theyve let the dust settle now and people get comfortable with it so now its time to turn the screw. Ive noticed poorer quality general woots over the past months and now this.
I know that if I buy a shirt thats on the new blank and it does not fit correctly, then I will be returning it for a refund. I assume that Woot are going to be receptive to this due to this being a major change to their product?
I will now be going back to checking out the competition for American made shirts. Although I may not be a large buyer of shirts - I do know Ive sold many on behalf of woot by passing on the link for shirts that I knew appealed to friends/family.
I may just stick to randoms from now on.
Which blows because Amazon has decent customer service, and usually talks to people. This is coming from someone who's had packages lost in the mail and had them sent back out, had smooth returns (except for one gift return), and enjoys the benefits of Prime. If they're doing this to Woot, I don't want to know what's to come later on.
Except I doubt they'd do refunds, which is a low blow (like, super low), after introducing these. I'd say we should all get a free test shirt, but I know that'd be impractical. I don't even think I'll even go for Randoms, since I don't want anything other than AA. And since today's is being printed on these new ones, I don't trust them.
KimNicole wrote:I am not a huge AA fan. I am a huge fan of supporting American workers.
My last purchase will be the one last week. If you go back to an American vendor, please send an email as I won't be checking the site. In the meantime, I plan on facebooking this change and making it clear that I no longer recommend woot t-shirts.
If I want clever shirts printed on foreign made t-shirts I can hit up any number of store fronts here in the NYC area. They don't cost $12.
BTW: If you're going to justify a price change by saying you need more money to maintain your quality, you need to maintain your quality for longer than a month!
Couldn't have said it any better.
sukeban wrote:Yeah, I know, and I've bought shirts from other websites that have fitted OK. I'm just worried that everyone's saying that AA tees run smaller than expected.
Then again, my first woot tee has just shipped and I won't get to try it on until next week as soonest, so I really can't talk until I see it in person.
I've never had problems with AA's fit.
Narfcake wrote:Actually, RamyB and PatrickSpens are shirt.woot's top sellers; both have over 50 derby prints.
More reason for them to boycott. If they stop designing until the AA's come back, shirt.woot would suffer a MAJOR loss in sales. (I mean, come on, RamyB comes up once a week, and his designs appeal to both men and women, and children. Not so much men sometimes, but still.)
lozerette wrote:$2 more to keep it in the USA? I'll pay that!
Same price for imported goods? Not just no, but heck no!
The benefit of imported goods is that they're cheap. Woot is charging MORE for them now.
The benefit of American-made goods is that they support our economy, and generally (not always) have better quality.
As someone with almost NO non-Woot shirts, I am quite disappointed. Also, I now have to start the process of making sure EVERYONE I've recommended Woot to over the years knows about this change.
I expected more from you, Woot.
this.^ And I just realized I should start trying to find new shirts, if Woot ones are out now. And this is coming from someone with a rainbow of shirts from here in her closet.
talljay wrote:c) ladies who use them as sleep shirts
Just get like, a men's xl, or something. Right now I'm in a shirt I got from Sport's Authority (friend made me) that's a... Oh. Really oversized medium. Though I have various XL's I sleep in. They seem to do the job pretty well.
starstuff wrote:We want American made shirts. American's need jobs and American companies need business
^ this. 121%
tl;dr I'm a female, and I object these changes. :| And woot is just being greedy. I doubt I'm buying any more shirts, even for friends / family. Woot lost customers with the price hike, and now they're only going to lose more. It's kind of bittersweet I'm having a shirt delivered tomorrow..
Not buying any more shirts until they bring back AA.