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A while ago I asked for feedback on various notebooks or tablets for mobile art makin'. I wanted to follow up on that because about a month ago I made up my mind and picked up a Samsung Series 7 Slate. After using it for a while, I thought I would share with you some feedback on it.

The Series 7 tablet runs a full version of Windows (currently 7, upgradable to 8), which means it also runs whatever else you like: Photoshop, Illustrator, ArtRage... whatever floats your boat. People have complained about tablets running Windows, but I haven't had many issues with it. It seems like Samsung has tweaked the interface a bit because it mostly gets whatever I'm trying to select, even with smaller folders or menu options. I understand Windows 8 will be more geared to tablets, so I will probably upgrade, though I'm happy with it how it is.

It comes with a Wacom stylus that's more than sensitive enough for digital art. It also seems to have enough power to work with beefy illustrations. Just as an experiment I loaded up a 500mb beast of an illo and worked away with little slow down. It has 4 gigs of RAM, which seems adequate for everything I've given it. The screen can also be pumped up to some serious brightness levels, and while it's not quite as rich as a nice desktop monitor in terms of contrast or color (I tend to bring my images onto the desktop for any final touchups or color tweaks), it's still very solid for a tablet.

In addition people have made custom programs to help make Photoshop tablet/Series 7 friendly. I run this little gem when using PS. It puts a series of commonly used shortcut buttons on the left of the screen for you to use with your thumb (this menu disappears when you put your stylus over it -- a nice touch). The rest of the screen is turned into a stylus-only zone, so you can rest your hand on the screen while drawing and not have it affect your work. Without this little add-on I think PS would be pretty tough to work with. With it, completely smooth and awesome.

There were some shortcomings, mainly with the out-of-the-box experience. There's a light sensor that's supposed to adjust the brightness of the screen to your environment. Unfortunately two different programs fight for control of this, causing the screen to dim and go bright for seemingly no reason. I just turned off that "feature". There's also a little plastic cap that covers the USB port. It's basically impossible to remove without a credit card or something (I broke a fingernail trying to pop it out the first time). It's also not attached to the case in any way, so I quickly lost mine. Again, not missed at all. The battery life is also limited, but this isn't surprising given the amount of power it's using. I find it's good for about 5-6 hours of use, which is perfect for me as I can unplug it in the morning, use it for about 3 or 4 hours out of my day, then plug it back in at night.

The widescreen ratio has been complained about by some as non-ideal for the artist, but after using it I found it actually works well when you factor in the various tool and layer windows you'll have open while working. I assumed I'd be rotating the screen to a vertical alignment while I was working, but quickly found the landscape format worked really well.

All in all I'd heartily recommend this device for anyone looking for an on-the-go option to their digital art. It's been great for me, as I commute with the bus and now have tons more free time for doodling and digital painting. I can also work on the sofa without feeling like I'm totally neglecting my family.

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tgentry wrote:A while ago I asked for feedback on various notebooks or tablets for mobile art makin'. I wanted to follow up on that because about a month ago I made up my mind and picked up a Samsung Series 7 Slate. After using it for a while, I thought I would share with you some feedback on it.

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All in all I'd heartily recommend this device for anyone looking for an on-the-go option to their digital art. It's been great for me, as I commute with the bus and now have tons more free time for doodling and digital painting. I can also work on the sofa without feeling like I'm totally neglecting my family.



eventually i expect you to get a samsung galaxy note 10.1, too, and compare drawering between the two.


pandamonium long sleeve tee YAY MEDIOCRITY!

fishbiscuit5


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tgentry wrote:A while ago I asked for feedback on various notebooks or tablets for mobile art makin'. I wanted to follow up on that because about a month ago I made up my mind and picked up a Samsung Series 7 Slate. After using it for a while, I thought I would share with you some feedback on it.

The Series 7 tablet runs a full version of Windows (currently 7, upgradable to 8), which means it also runs whatever else you like: Photoshop, Illustrator, ArtRage... whatever floats your boat. People have complained about tablets running Windows, but I haven't had many issues with it. It seems like Samsung has tweaked the interface a bit because it mostly gets whatever I'm trying to select, even with smaller folders or menu options. I understand Windows 8 will be more geared to tablets, so I will probably upgrade, though I'm happy with it how it is.

It comes with a Wacom stylus that's more than sensitive enough for digital art. It also seems to have enough power to work with beefy illustrations. Just as an experiment I loaded up a 500mb beast of an illo and worked away with little slow down. It has 4 gigs of RAM, which seems adequate for everything I've given it. The screen can also be pumped up to some serious brightness levels, and while it's not quite as rich as a nice desktop monitor in terms of contrast or color (I tend to bring my images onto the desktop for any final touchups or color tweaks), it's still very solid for a tablet.

In addition people have made custom programs to help make Photoshop tablet/Series 7 friendly. I run this little gem when using PS. It puts a series of commonly used shortcut buttons on the left of the screen for you to use with your thumb (this menu disappears when you put your stylus over it -- a nice touch). The rest of the screen is turned into a stylus-only zone, so you can rest your hand on the screen while drawing and not have it affect your work. Without this little add-on I think PS would be pretty tough to work with. With it, completely smooth and awesome.

There were some shortcomings, mainly with the out-of-the-box experience. There's a light sensor that's supposed to adjust the brightness of the screen to your environment. Unfortunately two different programs fight for control of this, causing the screen to dim and go bright for seemingly no reason. I just turned off that "feature". There's also a little plastic cap that covers the USB port. It's basically impossible to remove without a credit card or something (I broke a fingernail trying to pop it out the first time). It's also not attached to the case in any way, so I quickly lost mine. Again, not missed at all. The battery life is also limited, but this isn't surprising given the amount of power it's using. I find it's good for about 5-6 hours of use, which is perfect for me as I can unplug it in the morning, use it for about 3 or 4 hours out of my day, then plug it back in at night.

The widescreen ratio has been complained about by some as non-ideal for the artist, but after using it I found it actually works well when you factor in the various tool and layer windows you'll have open while working. I assumed I'd be rotating the screen to a vertical alignment while I was working, but quickly found the landscape format worked really well.

All in all I'd heartily recommend this device for anyone looking for an on-the-go option to their digital art. It's been great for me, as I commute with the bus and now have tons more free time for doodling and digital painting. I can also work on the sofa without feeling like I'm totally neglecting my family.



I love my Samsung Slate! I've been using it since Christmas and second this product review. Several artists I know purchased one after seeing mine and they have been happy with it as well.

I definitely recommend getting the package that includes the dock and keyboard. I also purchased a bluetooth mouse to go with it so I can set it up on my desk. The Slate works like a fully functioning laptop, in fact it's faster than my Samsung laptop. Photoshop opens lightning quick! I can also hook up the HDMI to my TV and watch movies and shows straight off the Slate! It's an amazing device for both productivity and entertainment. I was really looking for portability so I can draw on the go, this was the answer for me!

Now, to run along and draw something on my Slate!

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Thank you both for this review!

Lately I've been looking at a lot of options for making my workflow easier/faster. I also want to be able to practice digital painting a lot more, but hate leaving my boy alone in the tv room while I skulk at the desktop. Being able to sit on the couch and practice my painty stuff would be supremely awesome.

Also I like to draw in a sketchbook, but I also get really sad at all the unfinished junk I leave in them. It takes forever to scan stuff in and organize it all. I just wish my sketchbook had a 'save as' button on it, hahaha. A portable, true version of Photoshop would please me mightily. Oh yes. Mightily!!!

Its nice to see a tablet with some real power inside. I have an ipad2, but all it's really good for is games and light software. No drawy. I tried to make some stuff on it and the lack of control is just killer (and not in an 80's rad way).

One question for Travis: Did you have to buy a new Adobe license to install the software on the tablet, or can you install your current license on it? Im kind of dumb on that stuff.

Thanks again, Travis and Fish! I might have to try one of these out!

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bassanimation wrote:I have an ipad2, but all it's really good for is games and light software. No drawy. I tried to make some stuff on it and the lack of control is just killer (and not in an 80's rad way)


Know what would be brilliant? A youtube of a bunch of T-shirt artists doing a few rounds of "Draw Something"

move along

bassanimation


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j5 wrote:Know what would be brilliant? A youtube of a bunch of T-shirt artists doing a few rounds of "Draw Something"



Heck yeah! There's already a ton of tee arters on there. I dnlded but have yet to submerge into the phenomenon @_@.

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bassanimation wrote:
One question for Travis: Did you have to buy a new Adobe license to install the software on the tablet, or can you install your current license on it? Im kind of dumb on that stuff.



To be honest I'm on the CS5 30 day demo. That just ran out, so now I'm going to try the CS6 beta for as long as that lasts. Then once I've finally run the course on my free options I'll have to reevaluate.

fishbiscuit5


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j5 wrote:Know what would be brilliant? A youtube of a bunch of T-shirt artists doing a few rounds of "Draw Something"



I think I'm the worst at drawing in "Draw Something" lol. The screen is so tiny and I can't draw with my finger!

Bass, I wish the iPad was better for drawing too but it's hard with no pressure sensitivity. The built in Wacom with the Slate is pretty sweet.

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fishbiscuit5 wrote:I think I'm the worst at drawing in "Draw Something" lol. The screen is so tiny and I can't draw with my finger!

Bass, I wish the iPad was better for drawing too but it's hard with no pressure sensitivity. The built in Wacom with the Slate is pretty sweet.



the galaxy note tablets are supposed to have wacom tech as well, hence my interest.


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no1 wrote:the galaxy note tablets are supposed to have wacom tech as well, hence my interest.



I'm a sucker for Samsung products. I'd love to know how the galaxy note is for drawing on the go.

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I've been eyeing the slate for awhile now and may take the plunge soon but I'm a little hesitant about the display. I currently am using my iPad 2 for some fun mobile sketching and artwork.

I started digital painting with just a mouse and keyboard so I was able to ease back into the lack of pressure sensitivity without too much fuss (though theres several pen options now for iPad like the iPen that include that functionality)

I use two programs for mobile painting, one is Auto Desk's Sketch Book Pro and the other is Procreate. Both are amzing and have strengths and weaknesses. I'm posting a couple images I've done below on my iPad in Sketch Book to give you an idea of what it's capable of (it's also available on android)

A portrait of a friends son - 9 Hrs


A portrait of another friends dog - 3 Hrs


There's a lady I like to follow on Flickr too named Susan Murtaugh who uses her iPad for lots of art using Auto desk's software on both her PC and iPad. She's a great inspiration.

Also Bass to answer your licensing question I think they allow a couple installs for CS. I've always installed on my PC and laptop with the same copy and never had a problem. Never tried it for three or more devices though so can't help you there.