Where to begin- I was away this weekend and just saw this thread last night, and by that point there was a lot to read so I decided to wait until the morning.
Ok so I'm going to start with specific people I guess.
1. Boots- With the apathy design on my site, I started with the slogan on the bottom and the world saying meh, but felt it was missing something. The decision to add the apathy alliance part at the top was inspired by your design, and I absolutely regret not checking with you first. I just figured the concepts were different so it would be ok, and I absolutely didn't mean to offend you. I'll be emailing you later about this.
2. Fishbiscuit- I had never seen your design before when I designed my celebrate mediocrity shirt. I am not saying I wasn't around when it was posted in the derby, but I just didn't happen to see it. I also don't regularly follow other sites. If it makes you feel better, it doesn't sell at all. I don't know if you came up with the concept of celebrate mediocrity, but if you did, it has become extremely widespread because I've heard it many many times, so congrats. I was under the impression that the phrase has been around for a long while. I wanted to have a few slogan shirts since I could print them with fewer colors- clearly I'm not very good at coming up with them, and have decided to just stick to what I'm good at.
That said, I'm a little surprised that you are so offended, considering this "incident" that happened, in which case the designs were actually much more similar:
I didn't complain about it because I didn't care- people come up with similar shirts all the time, and it's difficult to keep track of every idea that has been done in every execution. Especially when you are designing very simple shirts, it is extremely easy to get into the territory of similar designs to *SOMETHING* that's out there. It happens, and it isn't theft.
(the same goes to you, odysseyroc)
In fact, I thought about doing a bring back pluto shirt for my site as well but then decided against it. I wonder if you would have jumped on it as a clear case of theft if I had.
3. The O-Riginal is still the most ridiculous thing I've ever dealt with in my entire life. Why are the vegetables the same? Because an onion is necessary in the shirt, and because broccoli and tomato are very easily recognizable, easy to draw, and there is a 6 color limit. If they were string beans, they would look stupid with faces, if they were eggplants, they would throw off the balance of the shirt, etc.- Secondly, the concepts are different. One of them is the onion having a bad odor and making the others sick to be near him. The other is the onion being a bully and the teacher scolding him. The idea of an onion smelling bad is not something walmazan came up with. Real onions smell bad. They exist in the real world. I really actually had never seen walmazan's shirt before when I designed mine. I get it, you will believe what you want to believe, and that is your right. Enjoy it.
What really shocks me about all of this is that people jump through hoops to defend other artists when they do designs that are absolutely painfully similar to things on other sites, and then jump on any occasion to find a vague similarity in this case to prove a point. This is not a situation of multiple strikes and you are out. This is a situation of looking extra hard to find coincidental examples to prove a fallacious point. The really amazing thing is that some people have actually deluded themselves into thinking that they make exceptions for other artists because they aren't repeat offenders. There is no repeat offenders situation going on here, it is multiple designs that look coincidentally similar. Go through any artist's previous designs, and scour the internet for similar designs. You will find plenty, and especially for simple shirts.
The simpler the designs, the more likely they exist elsewhere. Simple shirts are what I enjoy wearing, and I enjoy designing them. I used to post these types of designs on woot extremely often, and people would freak out about it, so I decided to expand into my own territory and make my own website where I could design whatever I wanted. That also opened the door for me to provide more variety on woot, and people have been (seemingly) pretty happy about it, considering my designs have been getting fewer complaints until this came up.
I have no interest in taking ideas from others, but I also am not carefully policing my designs to make sure that nothing remotely similar exists elsewhere. I don't see a point in doing so, if I want to design simple puns or cute shirts, I don't doubt that there is something similar out there, but I also don't think the executions of any of my shirts step on any toes or come too close to anything out there. This isn't a situation where there is one specific example that is similar and nobody has ever come up with the same concept before. Different people have independently arrived at the same obvious answer at different time points, and have executed it differently.
I'm 100% sure that the entirety of this post will do nothing to move any opinions. As always with these situations, people generally pick a side and assume that any defense from the other side is unfounded. That's fine, I just didn't want people to believe that I was hiding in a shell in the hopes that this would blow over. I stand behind my decisions and my work, and will gladly step out into the line of fire. So let me have it