I apologize for interrupting this grammar-debating thread, but I wanted to make two serious, non-jokey points. [ETA: and one jokey non-point]
First, I think we should have given Ramy more credit for this:
Narfcake wrote:They were taken down shortly after my post yesterday.
I understand that many will feel that Ramy should have taken them down immediately (well, or shouldn't have created them in the first place, but that horse is already out of the barn) instead waiting until he was shamed by Narfcake, but I want to give Ramy credit for taking them down. I am not an artist; I don't have the personal history with Ramy and what's-her-name that many have. What I do have is significant experience dealing with young adults who make mistakes, get defensive when called on them, and take slow but stumbling steps towards growth and maturity - and take plenty of backward steps along the way. The forward steps are rarely as obvious as we'd like them to be, and often taken more begrudgingly than we'd like, but if our goal is encourage Ramy to become a more mature person and artist, it's important to recognize both the steps backward and forward. After making some huge, enormous mistakes, I think this was a small step forward and I applaud Ramy for doing it.
Secondly, I do not believe that it is helpful to retaliate against Ramy. Many woot.artists have been open and honest in this thread about how they develop ideas and check to see if others have done them already, and about how Ramy's actions have made them feel. I think Ramy knows that he's done wrong and his reaction to having it pointed out to him seems to be defensiveness. Mocking him, here or in the Derby, is unlikely to garner the result y'all are seeking. It doesn't model good behavior and it undermines the suggestions that have been made to Ramy.
Next time, on Dr. NeuroPsychoSocial Psychoanalyzes Woot - On the sidelines, looking in: is the recent focus at woot on the exclusion of Pluto a reflection of wooters' own experiences of a childhood on the sidelines, looking in at the "cool kids" but never really belonging? We'll explore what it means to identify with the marginalized plutoid, and answer that question everyone is asking: who's the solar system's REAL DADDY?!?!