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Accordingly to woot, this issue should be addressed via PM with Gatzby instead of discussed openly. Clearly, woot is continuing to sweep this incident under the rug instead of addressing it. I am most surprised that woot is apparently willing to discuss me behind my back with other customers. A week ago, I would have assumed that a corporation would adhere to a nominal code of ethics, at least, that would prohibit such doing, but woot has made it clear they do not abide by any set of ethics if those ethnics are inconvenient for them.

Several people who have publicly expressed support for me mentioned to me that they PM'd Gatzby; so far, none have heard back. Has anyone heard back from Gatzby or is woot merely ignoring those customers who have publicly called woot out on their shameful behavior?

I have remained mostly quiet in this thread since my initial posts to it; I had hoped that this could be resolved amicably. As woot is clearly assuming that silence, opaqueness, and time will make this incident disappear, I suppose I must accept that woot is not interested in accepting responsibility for its mistakes. Therefore, less quiet and more information tomorrow - but first, some sleep.

neuropsychosocial wrote:Accordingly to woot, this issue should be addressed via PM with Gatzby instead of discussed openly. Clearly, woot is continuing to sweep this incident under the rug instead of addressing it. I am most surprised that woot is apparently willing to discuss me behind my back with other customers. A week ago, I would have assumed that a corporation would adhere to a nominal code of ethics, at least, that would prohibit such doing, but woot has made it clear they do not abide by any set of ethics if those ethnics are inconvenient for them.

You know I'm in your corner on this one, but I need to be fair to Inkycat here. That read like boiler-plate copy-paste for "I am not authorized to mention any moderation" more than a comment on your specific situation. Definately a post made of fail, but it's a macro fail rather than an ethics one.

neuropsychosocial wrote:As woot is clearly assuming that silence, opaqueness, and time will make this incident disappear, I suppose I must accept that woot is not interested in accepting responsibility for its mistakes.

This has been their m.o. since as long as I have been here. Welcome to woot. I would bet the more talky you get the more deletey and probationy they get.

Um, my post here is gone now too. Isn't that ironic in a thread about censorship?

Melinda413 wrote:Um, my post here is gone now too. Isn't that ironic in a thread about censorship?

Yeah, you posted quoting a troll, or responding to a trollish post, therefore expunged.

j5 wrote:Yeah, you posted quoting a troll, or responding to a trollish post, therefore expunged.

I know, I still find it amusing though.

Melinda413 wrote:I know, I still find it amusing though.

Quite so.

mrwednesday wrote:This has been their m.o. since as long as I have been here. Welcome to woot. I would bet the more talky you get the more deletey and probationy they get.

I'm surprised she hasn't been probated yet to be honest, she seems a little obsessed and is trolling this forum outrage all over the place.

There have been times in the past where I couldn't make 2 "ramyb is a thief and/or hack and here's why" comments in a day without getting scolded and sat in the corner for several days.

Woot has always reserved the right to edit and delete posts and this has always annoyed people. Yet, we get away with an awful lot sometimes too and I have seen far stricter boards in other places.

neuropsychosocial wrote:Accordingly to woot, this issue should be addressed via PM with Gatzby instead of discussed openly. Clearly, woot is continuing to sweep this incident under the rug instead of addressing it. I am most surprised that woot is apparently willing to discuss me behind my back with other customers. A week ago, I would have assumed that a corporation would adhere to a nominal code of ethics, at least, that would prohibit such doing, but woot has made it clear they do not abide by any set of ethics if those ethnics are inconvenient for them.

Several people who have publicly expressed support for me mentioned to me that they PM'd Gatzby; so far, none have heard back. Has anyone heard back from Gatzby or is woot merely ignoring those customers who have publicly called woot out on their shameful behavior?

I have remained mostly quiet in this thread since my initial posts to it; I had hoped that this could be resolved amicably. As woot is clearly assuming that silence, opaqueness, and time will make this incident disappear, I suppose I must accept that woot is not interested in accepting responsibility for its mistakes. Therefore, less quiet and more information tomorrow - but first, some sleep.

The response from Gatzby there was wonderful. "Screenshots are preferred" when making a complaint. Well, I didn't think to get screenshots of what goldenthorn or inkycatz said in the reckoning thread and now they're gone. I did, however, relay to neuro what was said in them because she deserved to know how woot mods/staff reacted.

Woot, just because we can't see posts anymore doesn't mean that those who read them have magically forgotten what was said. Or in this case, not said. Inkycatz, it was appalling that you completely ignored your role in this situation in your response. The lack of any semblance of an apology was outrageous. The ongoing disrespect being shown by woot in regards to this situation is ridiculous.

I see the 'Numbers' thread was also deleted. Boo. Way to alienate a lonely wooter.

Dear Woot Mods:
According to the Terms Of Service Woot moderators only have the authority to remove post, not ban users!
Allow me to educate you. Per your Terms Of Service, heretoafter referred to as TOS, you may remove any post that you deem necessary. Recommended guidelines according to your TOS are as follows:

You agree not to post to the Sites any Content or any other materials whatsoever that is or could appear to be: (a) untrue, misleading, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortious, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive to another person's privacy or protected data, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable; (b) infringing or alleged to be infringing upon a third party's intellectual property rights, including any patent, trademark, trade secret, copyright, right of publicity, or other proprietary rights of any party, including, without limitation, any Content that is the subject of any third party claim of infringement; (c) of a type that you do not have a right to transmit under any law or under contractual or fiduciary relationships, such as inside information and proprietary and confidential information; (d) unsolicited, undisclosed or unauthorized advertising; (e) software viruses or any other computer code, files, or programs designed to interrupt, destroy, or limit the functionality of any computer software or hardware or telecommunications equipment; (f) data or information obtained through access that was not authorized by the owner of the data or information, or with respect to which such posting would constitute unauthorized use; or (g) in violation of any applicable local, state, national or international law, regulation, or statute (including export laws).
Now in order for a moderator; heretoafter referred to as mod; to remove a post of mine s/ he must believe that I am in breach of one of the following:
Untrue
Defamatory
Libelous
Tortious
As such I have taken the liberty of providing the common definition to each. Rest assured that a Court of Law; heretoafter referred to as COL; will use the plain meaning of the words, as a person who is not legally trained would understand the word. These definitions are:
Untrue: false; known to be false
Defamatory: Slander or libel
Slander: The action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.
Libel: Same as above just written
Libelous: The act of committing libel as described above
Tortious: The act of committing Tort as defined below
Tort: A wrongful act or an infringement of a right (other than under contract) leading to legal liability.

As I am sure you know realize, the mod(s) have been in breach of TOS guidelines. Let us use this as a learning experience shall we? Stop the abuse!


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Unite! Come and visit us on facebook to voice your rage over woots inept handling of the shirt switch. Or sign our petition
Signed,
Master Baiter

You forgot to keep reading.

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Woot never states the mods are limited to enforcing just what you've agreed to abide by.

Important.

formerwooter10 wrote:Dear Wooters!
Unite! Come and visit us on facebook to voice your rage over woots inept handling of the shirt switch. Or sign our petition
Signed,
Master Baiter

Protip: If you want to be taken seriously, you should consider a more appropriate nom de guerre, or at least something more witty.

People getting butthurt and flounce-y over butthurt?

It's official, Woot has completely jumped the shark, backed up and reversed, and jumped it again. [eyerolls]

Mavyn wrote:You forgot to keep reading.

MONITORING OF SITE CONTENT

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we reserve the right to modify or remove any Content at any time.

Woot never states the mods are limited to enforcing just what you've agreed to abide by.

Important.

Also, a ban from POSTING is just a preemptive modification of everything you thought you were going to post. They're still letting you in, letting you read, they're just editing your posts, before anyone else can read them.

endangeredomega wrote:People getting butthurt and flounce-y over butthurt?

It's official, Woot has completely jumped the shark, backed up and reversed, and jumped it again. [eyerolls]

We prefer NUKED TEH FRIDGE! for this level sir. Thank you Lucas...

j5 wrote:Protip: If you want to be taken seriously, you should consider a more appropriate nom de guerre, or at least something more witty.

I think that's pretty approp. After all, wanking is more likely to get results than the petition.