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Well yay for no pop culture :D

bradalee wrote:Well yay for no pop culture :D

That doesn't say no pop culture, it says no pop culture riffs. I'm not sure what the difference is, but trust me, we're going to see at least 5 unrejected pop-designs.

bounty42 wrote:That doesn't say no pop culture, it says no pop culture riffs. I'm not sure what the difference is, but trust me, we're going to see at least 5 unrejected pop-designs.

I hope not, would love to see more original designs.

bounty42 wrote:That doesn't say no pop culture, it says no pop culture riffs. I'm not sure what the difference is, but trust me, we're going to see at least 5 unrejected pop-designs.

I am hoping the "Of your very own creation" and the "Do something original" are enough to justify the ban parade...

oakenspirit wrote:I am hoping the "Of your very own creation" and the "Do something original" are enough to justify the ban parade...

Because more than 10% of the last derby had any reference to final wish, or to third wish?

Would it be considered a pop culture reference if the reference is well over 70 years old?

bounty42 wrote:Because more than 10% of the last derby had any reference to final wish, or to third wish?

A confusing/difficult theme isn't the same thing as a "no pop culture" rule, I don't think the addition of the word riffs is significant. I think they will reject any pop culture period.

The only fuzziness is, as usual, what is pop culture? So we'll still see ninjas and zombies and such, just not TMNT or Mario

graffd02 wrote:Would it be considered a pop culture reference if the reference is well over 70 years old?

depends on how old your pop is!

graffd02 wrote:Would it be considered a pop culture reference if the reference is well over 70 years old?

I don't think pop culture has an age limit. Nighthawks is 70 years old and they nipped that in the bud...

Atleast this time, read the basic rules before submitting. Potty humor, racism, indecency -everything was running wild in last derby, it's disgusting.

bluetuba wrote:A confusing/difficult theme isn't the same thing as a "no pop culture" rule, I don't think the addition of the word riffs is significant. I think they will reject any pop culture period.

The only fuzziness is, as usual, what is pop culture? So we'll still see ninjas and zombies and such, just not TMNT or Mario

a Riff is a distict variation, it's taking something existing, and altering it to fit as though it were something else. The more I stare at this, the more I'm thinking things like:
* Kentucky Fried Cuccos
* Campbells Cream of 1-Up soup
* TMNT at the Nighthawk Diner
are all riffs, but something like
* Umbrella Corperate Cafeteria
* Killer Rabbit BBQ sauce
* TARDIS Turnovers (more fruit on the inside!)
Are all pop culture, but not riffs.

I think Woot needs to stop trying to be cute with the rules though. I know it's gotta be boring to type "no pop culture" once every 2-3 weeks, but ambiguity and tight deadlines are stressful combinations.

chennai8 wrote:Atleast this time, read the basic rules before submitting. Potty humor, racism, indecency -everything was running wild in last derby, it's disgusting.

You realise that other than the vague "the design's content is offensive or obscene" none of those are actually mentioned?

Also, while last derby was worse, there's at least 3 shirts in that category every week.

bounty42 wrote:a Riff is a distict variation, it's taking something existing, and altering it to fit as though it were something else. The more I stare at this, the more I'm thinking things like:
* Kentucky Fried Cuccos
* Campbells Cream of 1-Up soup
* TMNT at the Nighthawk Diner
are all riffs, but something like
* Umbrella Corperate Cafeteria
* Killer Rabbit BBQ sauce
* TARDIS Turnovers (more fruit on the inside!)
Are all pop culture, but not riffs.

I think Woot needs to stop trying to be cute with the rules though. I know it's gotta be boring to type "no pop culture" once every 2-3 weeks, but ambiguity and tight deadlines are stressful combinations.

ambiguity and tight deadlines make it challenging, but I think that is the point. I am getting tired of seeing Zelda logos with a title that refrences the theme, it's just lazy.

It would be NICE to see some cool designs. MEANING can we please have less kittens, bunnies, unicorns, rainbows, lollipops, ponies and stuff that makes MOST people puke.

dawnao wrote:It would be NICE to see some cool designs. MEANING can we please have less kittens, bunnies, unicorns, rainbows, lollipops, ponies and stuff that makes MOST people puke.

AGREE 200%

mpcondo wrote:ambiguity and tight deadlines make it challenging, but I think that is the point. I am getting tired of seeing Zelda logos with a title that refrences the theme, it's just lazy.

I have never seen one of those, can you provide links?

bounty42 wrote:I have never seen one of those, can you provide links?

there was one in the most recent derby

So I guess no 'Restaurant At The End of the Universe' references?

tgentry wrote:I'm a little confused by this. The rules just asked what your final wish would be if you had three wishes? That could pretty much anything depending on the person. As long some element of wish-fulfillment comes across it seems hard to go off-topic on that theme. Granted, it's pretty wide open, but some derbies are.

Also no pop-culture in this one. Riffs, jams, odes, or otherwise. Seriously, keep it original. No Shakespeare, no Lovecraft, just no. This is all about the food. Let's leave Doctor Who out of it.

And our guest editor...

-drumroll-

Walmazan!

Does this mean no Walmazan entries

curli76 wrote:Does this mean no Walmazan entries

This means Walmazan can't place 3rd this time, but with this one he's probably getting a 1st or 2nd anyways.

I have a few ideas, mostly based on some really bad puns; message me if you're interested.

tgentry wrote:
Also no pop-culture in this one. Seriously, keep it original. No Shakespeare, no Lovecraft, just no.

So should this be semi-offical confirmation that both Shakespeare and Cthulhu should be considered pop culture?

tgentry wrote:The guest editor can still participate, they just can't select their own designs.

tgentry wrote:
And our guest editor...

-drumroll-

Walmazan!

Extraordinarily well-matched choice of EC for a food-themed derby.

Neat topic. I forsee a few good ones coming out of this derby.

Um, what's with the confusion on this one? I agree, the wish derby was a bit all over the place. But what's so difficult to understand with this one? Be original with your design seems pretty straightforward. If it's a recognizable character/cultural reference it doesn't belong.

There will always be some folks who submit entries without looking at the rules or topic (seriously, go back and look, for pretty much every week there is stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with the theme) but these rules seem pretty clear.

Looking forward to the entries since I think there will be a variety with humorous, cute, artistic (for lack of better term) etc.

This theme really reminds me much more of a photochop contest than a shirt design contest.

tgentry wrote:I'm a little confused by this. The rules just asked what your final wish would be if you had three wishes? That could pretty much anything depending on the person. As long some element of wish-fulfillment comes across it seems hard to go off-topic on that theme. Granted, it's pretty wide open, but some derbies are.

Also no pop-culture in this one. Riffs, jams, odes, or otherwise. Seriously, keep it original. No Shakespeare, no Lovecraft, just no. This is all about the food. Let's leave Doctor Who out of it.

And our guest editor...

-drumroll-

Walmazan!

Yay! This post is awesome-thank you!

tgentry wrote:

Also no pop-culture in this one. Riffs, jams, odes, or otherwise. Seriously, keep it original. No Shakespeare, no Lovecraft, just no. This is all about the food. Let's leave Doctor Who out of it.

And our guest editor...

-drumroll-

Walmazan!

Travis, does this rule also mean no zombies, ninjas, etc.? Trying to define what is considered pop culture. Thanks! Love this theme!

Also, woowoo, Walmazan! Another excellent choice!

Neat to see Walmazan get a shot at picking an editor's choice.

Looking very, very forward to the derby. Last one wasn't my speed so much, but this one should be fun.

Josephus wrote:This theme really reminds me much more of a photochop contest than a shirt design contest.

That is the PopCulture Nighthawks which is strictly verbotten!

fishbiscuit5 wrote:Travis, does this rule also mean no zombies, ninjas, etc.?

Also want to know about this. I might draw a vampire winery but not sure if you guys are counting vampires as the pop culture. They'll be my vampire, I won't make them look like any popular ones.

I had this idea but not sure if it's worth submitting ^^;

tgentry wrote:The guest editor can still participate, they just can't select their own designs.

I fully expect a cupcake design or two from him regardless

tgentry wrote:Generic zombies, vampires, etc. are fine as long as you're not referencing a specific work. If we think you're referencing Dawn of the Dead or Nosferatu, it'll probably get rejected.

You're really pushing back the pop culture dates here, you know? Was expecing Twilight, True Blood, or Walking Dead for the reference point.

inu14 wrote:I had this idea but not sure if it's worth submitting ^^;

I like it, but be prepared for people to quibble if you aren't ensuring all groupings are exactly 2 bits.