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lucky1988


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awesome info and tutorial!

BaldBob007


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This is great stuff! I know some of us lesser artists think we need to use halftones to compete; but that ends up flooding the derbies with some awful looking designs. I actually prefer little to none, even in some designs by the more famous artists. ;)

AdderXYU


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I'm not going to lie, I smiled at this title, because it's true. Most people use halftones like T-Pain uses vocodor: egregiously and uninformedly.

Now, you know what would be great, having now posted this blog, is if from now til woot shutters, there was a "no ugly halftones" rule. Not only could you save yourself from the fact that most voters are impressed by halftones the way they're impressed by a 5 year old playing Moonlight Sonata sloppily, but entire dynasties of sloppy and overused halftoning could be eliminated for the sake of better work.

I guess that's a pie-in-the-sky dreamworld.

kevlar51


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nice tips. and when in grayscale, I've found the dodge and burn tools to really help a lot in shaping the gradient that will become the halftones.

taternuggets


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Bless you for this.


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omnitarian


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For those of us with silly opensource propensities: Halftone plugin for paint.net:

http://forums.getpaint.net/index.php?/topic/11520-ed-harvey-effects-v336/

bellarific


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I just get so frustrated when they don't look like I want them to. I guess it just takes a lot of practice to push them around in a way that makes them look... not slapped on.

DianaSprinkle


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If you don't want hand position your halftones, which just thinking about is making me want to murder. All you have to is select the grey layer in the layer menu, right click the layer and choose "Duplicate Layer" then in the menu that pops up under "Document" choose "New".

It will make a new document the exact same size as the old document. Then when you are finished with your half tone magic you can easily select all(ctrl+A), copy everything(ctrl+C), and return to the original file to paste it(ctrl+V) back directly over where it was originally. Then select all the white and delete to leave beautiful perfectly placed halftones. No fiddling and lining up required. =D

tgentry


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DianaSprinkle wrote:If you don't want hand position your halftones, which just thinking about is making me want to murder. All you have to is select the grey layer in the layer menu, right click the layer and choose "Duplicate Layer" then in the menu that pops up under "Document" choose "New".

It will make a new document the exact same size as the old document. Then when you are finished with your half tone magic you can easily select all(ctrl+A), copy everything(ctrl+C), and return to the original file to paste it(ctrl+V) back directly over where it was originally. Then select all the white and delete to leave beautiful perfectly placed halftones. No fiddling and lining up required. =D



QP! Thanks Diana!

Lish64


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I've yet to try a shirt design in Photoshop, but I might have to give it a try sometime. This is definitely going to be bookmarked for future reference!

mrwednesday


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The use of the opening to Choke really offends me. It's not even ironic it's just wrong.

paigeg


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Thanks tons, Travis! This helps my understanding quite a bit. Yes, I know, halftones are probably the bane of Man. But sometimes you just gotta have more colors. For example, my (inept) sub this week: I'd used all six colors, but absolutely had to have a flesh tone or my senorita would have looked like a ghost. I may not have done it well, but I think I at least did it appropriately.

tgentry


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mrwednesday wrote:The use of the opening to Choke really offends me. It's not even ironic it's just wrong.



Choke?... Haven't read it.

brockart


quality posts: 7 Private Messages brockart

For extra credit, can you show the Illustrator tutorial for halftones?

elviswind


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I'm not an artist, but it's interesting to look at the technical process . . . . now you just need to follow-up and include a "no halftones" rule in the next few derbies. :P

j5


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Not sure what Choke is, or why it would be offensive, but the opening is all Oppenheimer(yes, I AM Captain Obvious, thanks for noticing):

J. Robert Oppenheimer, Trinity 1945 wrote:We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed... A few people cried... Most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture the Bhagavad Gita; Vishnu is trying to persuade the prince that he should do his duty, and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form, and says, "Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds." I suppose we all thought that, one way or another.



Maybe a Spiderman quote would be less offensive?
"With great halftone power, there must come great halftone responsibility"

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mrwednesday


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tgentry wrote:Choke?... Haven't read it.



You should then. It's a great book!

paigeg


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"If you're going to read this, don't bother"


I haven't read it either, but the plot summary sounded pretty intriguing.

amreli


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DianaSprinkle wrote:If you don't want hand position your halftones, which just thinking about is making me want to murder. All you have to is select the grey layer in the layer menu, right click the layer and choose "Duplicate Layer" then in the menu that pops up under "Document" choose "New".

It will make a new document the exact same size as the old document. Then when you are finished with your half tone magic you can easily select all(ctrl+A), copy everything(ctrl+C), and return to the original file to paste it(ctrl+V) back directly over where it was originally. Then select all the white and delete to leave beautiful perfectly placed halftones. No fiddling and lining up required. =D



Alternately, you can delete the white in the "new" document and then "duplicate layer" back to your working document to get things in the right place. Both methods are essentially the same, don't know if one is inherently easier or faster than the other.

patrickspens


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!!! There was an important step missed in the method I use !!!

When you paste your paint into your gray-scale file, step 4, you need to make your layer black before proceeding to step 5! The halftone conversion uses value (light to dark) to determine the thickness of the halftones. If you have a solid (fully opaque) light gray circle, and a solid black circle next to each other you will see when converted that the halftones are thin on the gray circle and thick on the black. In a nutshell if you have a very light color, the halftones will be nearly invisible, regardless of how opaque the original paint was. Making the paint black will ensure that the transparency is converted correctly.

I hope this makes sense


here is a image showing the error created by solid a color of different values. they should all have the same halftones because they all have the same transparency, but the values mess it up.

tgentry


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patrickspens wrote:!!! There was an important step missed in the method I use !!!



Aw crud! I knew I'd forget something. It may take a little while, but I'll see if I can get that corrected. Thanks!

patrickspens


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tgentry wrote:Aw crud! I knew I'd forget something. It may take a little while, but I'll see if I can get that corrected. Thanks!



no worries! it happens

justme476


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j5 wrote:Not sure what Choke is, or why it would be offensive, but the opening is all Oppenheimer(yes, I AM Captain Obvious, thanks for noticing):




nah, its Oppenheimer quoting the Bhagavad Gita, for what its worth

j5


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justme476 wrote:nah, its Oppenheimer quoting the Bhagavad Gita, for what its worth



Yes, which is in the quote block....

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anishell


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Do we have to use "lines" for halftones? Personally, I like using the "round" halftones as mentioned on the second method.

Narfcake


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anishell wrote:Do we have to use "lines" for halftones? Personally, I like using the "round" halftones as mentioned on the second method.



No. Sometimes, lines work out better. Sometimes, dots work out better. It's all the artist's preference in which to incorporate into their design.

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roofoo


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Manga Studio has a HUGE tones library and is super simple to add halftones where you want them. I'm actually beginning to do all my illustration in MS, I think it blows Photoshop out of the water for illustrating.

bassanimation


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roofoo wrote:Manga Studio has a HUGE tones library and is super simple to add halftones where you want them. I'm actually beginning to do all my illustration in MS, I think it blows Photoshop out of the water for illustrating.



Ive also heard good things about MS. Id like to pick up a copy sometime and give it a whirl.

tgentry


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bassanimation wrote:Ive also heard good things about MS. Id like to pick up a copy sometime and give it a whirl.



Likewise, I've heard it's good stuff, and not just from Manga artists.

bassanimation


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Another tool people might consider is Filter Forge. It is on sale right now for 60% off, til Friday I believe. I bought a copy for my house to give it a try. It has some very nice halftone and woodcut actions, as well as a gorgeous watercolor action.

roofoo


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tgentry wrote:Likewise, I've heard it's good stuff, and not just from Manga artists.



Yes, and Smith Micro puts it on sale every once in a while. I got the EX version (normally $299) for $99 not too long ago!

JRSly


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I'm just getting into t-shirt design and when looking into halftoning before, I wondered about the minimum dot size. I figured, "Surely, a single pixel can't be printed." Seems like it would make sense to be able to control that minimum size as well, does it not?

jimiyo


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Ah I remember the days when snippy wooters would complain that halftoning was somehow "cheating" and they would rail on artists for being unauthentic like it was easy to make good halftones... Times are a changin!

Josephus


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jimiyo wrote:Ah I remember the days when snippy wooters would complain that halftoning was somehow "cheating" and they would rail on artists for being unauthentic like it was easy to make good halftones... Times are a changin!



I think that was back when woot was outlawing halftones. I know I got rejected one time for my background in my thumbnail being a gradient when it wasn't even a halftone, just a straight solid color. The rejector was having one of those 'absences' he sometimes has and saw something that wasn't there. unrejected it several hours later, but lost all my votes.

imsochady


quality posts: 30 Private Messages imsochady

Great tutorials! No wonder little dots have been running rampant in the Derby nowadays.

Lagbert


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I found a good tutorial on making custom halftones.

http://www.digitalartform.com/archives/2009/06/custom_halftone.html

If you are using a program other than Photoshop Hard Mix can be achieved by placing the gray scaled art on a layer above the halftone. Set the layer mode of the art to Addition. Merge the two layers. Use Threshold to convert the image to strictly black and white pixels.

Here's a sample of a custom 5 LPI Hex halftone I made using the tutorial linked above.


Other notes:

When using the layer mask method of creating halftones, you should invert the mask's colors before converting the layer mask to halftones. After you convert the mask to halftones invert the colors again. This will make sure your halftones are dots of color rather than holes to the color below.

rhochstrasser


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patrickspens wrote:!!! There was an important step missed in the method I use !!!



Thanks for pointing this out! Makes perfect sense. The purple squiggly line and gradient rectangle have areas of solid color but the created halftones in the tutorial lose the solid colors (the top of the gradient should be solid purple, but it's not).

What's the best method for changing the grays to blacks in the bitmap? Levels? Thanks!

tessderpervilles


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One thing I noticed; between steps 6 and 7, before you can use the magic wand tool you have to convert back to grayscale image mode. (at least on my version of PS7)

haxrox


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For my fellow designers using the free, open-source Inkscape, here's the halftone tutorial.
Since Inkscape tends to hang with lots of shapes onscreen, I recommend NOT doing a union of the tiled clones, but rather taking a quick screenshot of them and then tracing the resulting bitmap into a path.

As a soapbox sidenote, if you're creating intellectual property that you want to sell (ie a shirt design), using pirated software is first-degree hypocrisy.