trouserwitz


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I'm also someone who when I buy shirts from here, I buy a few of them, for myself and family members. Usually they /are/ impulse buys, but I've been ordering from here less and less for awhile now.
Anyway, the only reason I'm posting was to point out that even though some of those other sites might cost more than the new shirt prices here, those sites have sales like once a month, AND typically you get to pick the color of the shirt your print goes on. That's been a huge deal breaker to me, I can only wear black shirts so often.

lorinda1717


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I understand needing to change pricing structures if the current isn't working for your business. But as a customer I'm guessing I will be buying significantly less. My shirt orders (20 in the last 8 months, paying an average $9.70/shirt including shipping) tend to be for silly gifts or geeky occasions demanding a shirt which I probably won't wear as anything other than pajamas after that event is over. Making the lower quality and lower price a win for me. I don't mind buying 5-6 Jaynestown Mudder shirts for Firefly trivia night at $7 (+$1 shipping/shirt), but at the $15 price point I will probably only be getting one for myself, if that....and am more likely to wait and buy something I actually want to wear more than once (not a lot of the catalog here), not just that I think is fun on the front page, or threw in the cart while I had already paid for shipping... All that being said, my son fell in love with the Gridiron Ale shirt during the sport derby, so when it finally came up yesterday we did spring for the new $15 price...so maybe it will work out after all.

mylionmaker


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I ordered six classics on Jan 31st and they arrived today. I just opened the box and found that they are all Port & Company versions. So, I scored on pricing here as I had hoped.

As noted, they are a bit wider, and tiny bit shorter, and the sleeves are much more generous. I am not a tshirt expert, so I don't know about any technical details, but they seem fine.

By mistake, I ordered a shirt I already had as an Anvil. To me the printing quality looks identical. They are both bright and vibrant and well printed.

Out of the lot of six new shirts, one is weakly printed. The shirt is grey (Batzilla) and speckles of grey show through the ink in numerous places. I was a little surprised by that.

Solarfox


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I'm sad I won't be using this site anymore. I was about to buy 4 new shirts last week cuz i got paid. Went to order the shirts out of the Valentine's deal only to realize prices went crazy. 3 years of buying shirts from here gone. This really made no sense. Maybe on a wootoff or something I'll purchase again but as of right now not for a long while.

Leto


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I was planning on refreshing some of my older favorites that were starting to wear out. Get new shirts with the same prints to replace them. My whole wardrobe is pretty much Woot shirts. But not at $19 per shirt!

kev23777


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The Children Size K10 measurements are wrong.

https://shirt.woot.com/sizingchart

I assume it's supposed to be Classic: 18"W 25"L and Fitted 16.25"W 22"L

ThunderThighs


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kev23777 wrote:The Children Size K10 measurements are wrong.

https://shirt.woot.com/sizingchart

I assume it's supposed to be Classic: 18"W 25"L and Fitted 16.25"W 22"L


Hmmmmm. Let me send this on to the shirt team.



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siberdraknon


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You might want to update the Shirt.Woot FAQ:

"What's the deal with shipping?Standard shipping is $5. If you’ve been a Shirt.Woot shopper for a long time, you probably noticed that’s different and new and perhaps scary, but here’s the thing: With $5 flat shipping, you save money on multiple shirt purchases, you unlock free shipping across the other Woot sites, and you get to imagine Abraham Lincoln riding a bald eagle into the sunset. Basically, if you hunker down and do the math (fun!), $5 flat shipping is an economical approach, and we’re all about, uh, economicals."

siberdraknon


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I was going to add a shirt or two to my sleeping bag order today. The price shock changed my mind. I don't understand why I can bundle other items and pay one price for shipping but I still have to pay the "included standard shipping" when I add a shirt.

ibexscribe


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Has the white shirt question been asked here? Is the white shirt in the new brand thick enough that a woman overly conscious of standard undergarments showing through outer clothing can wear it without also having to wear a camisole? I typically avoid white shirts because I prefer the option of layering by choice, not because I feel like I have to. Not having to layer with a tee is particularly important. Due to size, I have to order the men's shirts, which can make a difference in actual fabric weight.

Narfcake


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ibexscribe wrote:Has the white shirt question been asked here? Is the white shirt in the new brand thick enough that a woman overly conscious of standard undergarments showing through outer clothing can wear it without also having to wear a camisole? I typically avoid white shirts because I prefer the option of layering by choice, not because I feel like I have to. Not having to layer with a tee is particularly important. Due to size, I have to order the men's shirts, which can make a difference in actual fabric weight.


I can't comment directly with white, but with the other colors, the Port and Company (classic) are on par with the Anvil for the knit density (30 singles) and fabric weight (4.5oz/yard). It does tighten up a slight bit after washing, but I'd be reluctant to say that it'd be fully opaque.

The Bella/Canvas (fitted) are definitely lighter in weight and less opaque.

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jupilberry


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siberdraknon wrote:You might want to update the Shirt.Woot FAQ:

"What's the deal with shipping?Standard shipping is $5. If you’ve been a Shirt.Woot shopper for a long time, you probably noticed that’s different and new and perhaps scary, but here’s the thing: With $5 flat shipping, you save money on multiple shirt purchases, you unlock free shipping across the other Woot sites, and you get to imagine Abraham Lincoln riding a bald eagle into the sunset. Basically, if you hunker down and do the math (fun!), $5 flat shipping is an economical approach, and we’re all about, uh, economicals."



Oh, the good old days. Raising the price a few dollars per shirt and having no difference between standard and premium BUT keeping the flat $5 shipping would have caused some screaming. However, I cannot believe it would have caused this much screaming. Only Woot knows, but I have to believe this has drastically reduced the number of sales in the Top 20, Plus Sales, and the regular Catalog. Add to that the extremely low sales numbers for a few of the Featured Daily Shirts lately and you do not have to be an economist to realize that the business model is not sustainable.

ThunderThighs


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siberdraknon wrote:You might want to update the Shirt.Woot FAQ:

"What's the deal with shipping?Standard shipping is $5. If you’ve been a Shirt.Woot shopper for a long time, you probably noticed that’s different and new and perhaps scary, but here’s the thing: With $5 flat shipping, you save money on multiple shirt purchases, you unlock free shipping across the other Woot sites, and you get to imagine Abraham Lincoln riding a bald eagle into the sunset. Basically, if you hunker down and do the math (fun!), $5 flat shipping is an economical approach, and we’re all about, uh, economicals."


Yeah, that got overlooked. It should be updated soonish.



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thumperchick


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I realize I said this in my neck of the woods and forgot to say it here.

The way this was announced, with the full info and comparisons available, reasons for changing, etc. is really well done. I see where you all learned from the previous changes and how they were received and improved on it.

Now I just need to see if I like the new fit.

lizzd


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nightsx2 wrote:The new shirts are great. I never really cared for the short sleeves on the current shirts.

However, the new pricing structure just plain and simply sucks. I generally buy batches of shirts at a time, and this is going to mean a huge bottom line difference for me. If you order 10 Plus Sale shirts under the current structure, the total would be $85. Under the upcoming pricing, it would be $120.

If you're just ordering one shirt at a time, there's no issue; but this pricing structure just discourages large quantity purchases. I would be much more willing to pay incremental shipping charges, like at TeeFury or Ript. If this is the way things are going to be, I'll have no option but to cut way back on my Woot shirt purchases.



I agree, I usually buy at least 4-7 shirts & with the increase price i can no longer afford your T shirts. Sorry, lost another customer here. I had no issues w/ the quality of the shirts before. All have lasted for me just fine. Am gonna miss you guys but I just cannot do this....

sammydog01


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Thanks for the pizza shirt sale. I used this as an opportunity to figure out what size/style I like the best. Three pizza cats on the way in different styles and genders. Now I will know what to order if a shirt catches my eye. And people will think I never do laundry.

If you ever change suppliers again please do it around cheap shirt day.

astreya04


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I know this is super late to the party but I just learned of it. I haven't been buying as much here since sales tax got added to the cost, but your $15 shirt is actually a $16 shirt for me. And that seems too much considering that I don't think your women's shirts will fit me anymore. I actually liked the fit of the Anvil blanks, even though I preferred the quality of the AA blanks (but they no longer fit). I fit perfectly into an Anvil Women's Large (with shrinkage), now a Women's L will likely end up being too small, but the XL will be a tent. It's a shame because I really need more shirts.

GTTraveller


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My question is how long will it be before Woot switches back to $5 flat shipping to support multiples orders. You have to REALLY like, want, and be able to afford a T shirt for $19.

My suspicion is that was the end game all along.....

nomad009


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The biggest positive about woot Shirts was the price. Now Woot Shirts are more expensive than other places that have fun/geeky/nerdy shirts.

For example I just ordered 5 shirts from another site for the price of 13.80 per shirt shipped, which is less then woot shirt now.

We used to order 2 or 3 shirts at a time when we ordered but now this has become something that we have to compare to other sites to make sure we are getting the best price.

I would say that Woot Shirt has made the wrong choice on this and has made a good customer into a not customer.

jimmy112


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Doesn't Amazon own Woot? How are you hurting on shipping costs so much that you are charging 5$ per shirt? I can buy a 19$ (overpriced) t shirt anywhere. A shirt from Woot was an affordable artistic cool thing. Now its not worth it. I would buy 4 or 5 t shirts at a time. Now that costs too much and I have no desire to keep up with the Derby or to look for shirts to gift.

Bohsky


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Okay, after announcement that Amazon Prime now receive FREE shipping when you shop on Woot - the change of price of t-shirts (with one of the reasons that shipment is included) looks even worse


huntress137


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What the shirt, Woot.
I could understand a shirt price increase due to inflation, because production costs change, but this shipping per shirt is ridiculous. I was going to score shirts for the extended family this month and it's totally out of the question now for me to buy 8 shirts at a time. I would have been happy to pay a little extra per shirt to accommodate rising costs, but not this. I feel like us standard shirt size buyers are especially getting punished. Your cool factor for supporting artists (who I doubt see any of the price increase) isn't enough to offset feeling like I'm being gouged in the name of "shipping".
Also, women's standard shirt sizing changes. You already had a fitted women's shirt, why would you change to a standard brand that is even smaller? Women are lovely in all shapes and sizes. Your "just order a size or two up for a looser fit" motto doesn't work if you only offer women's sizes to XL.

I like your company model of having artists submit and I really like your designs, but I think this might be the end of our relationship. It's not me, it's you.

killifish


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I don't have a problem with occasional price increases, I think this one was just poorly implemented. About 2/3 my shirt purchases involve 3-5 shirts. I would occasionally order 1 or 2. Now I will maybe buy 1 at a time very very very occasionally.

No more woot shirts as gifts 😔

On the plus side, my wife thinks I have a woot shirt addiction. Now I don't!

Narfcake


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killifish wrote:I don't have a problem with occasional price increases, I think this one was just poorly implemented. About 2/3 my shirt purchases involve 3-5 shirts. I would occasionally order 1 or 2. Now I will maybe buy 1 at a time very very very occasionally.

No more woot shirts as gifts 😔

On the plus side, my wife thinks I have a woot shirt addiction. Now I don't!


It does come as a jump if you're used to buying multiples -- which I did. The price isn't out of line, but it's not super anymore either. I do feel I'm less impulsive in my purchases now and have only purchased two this week.

I do feel this was much better implemented than what happened 6 years ago on this day -- and it kinda makes me wonder if someone wouldn't have ventured off 5 years and 365 days ago if it wasn't for that change.

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Bohsky


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Want to add my opinion.

The increasing of the price because of better blanks is acceptable (and actually it's great that you bring new blanks), but the thing with shipping looks like strange decision. I'm not a specialist, but, in my opinion, for usual customer it looks like a motivation to buy less... a lot less.

As I understand, shirt.woot is not on its peak and it suffers from small amount of customers/sales (in comparison with previous years). But does decision like that would solve the problem? Because it looks like a lot of people would not buy several t-shirts as one purchase, they would buy just one and almost always only on side sales and not from the catalog. Shirt.Woot is known among buyers like a great place for buying a lot of t-shirts per one purchase, but after the change it's not a great deal.

Maybe it would be a good idea to add some scaling price system (the more you buy - the less you pay per one t-shirt)? Or some additional discounts if you buy a lot of t-shirts.

Or maybe use the previous system but with a little increased price of t-shirts and a little increased price of shipment for all order. I mean, it's possible to find some variant in between.

About making catalog t-shirts $19: it looks like it would bring sales amounts from catalog almost to zero, I mean that's definitely too much for most customers, and buyer should really-really want that shirt to buy it for that price.

I understand that those decisions were made by professionals (and the change of price was needed) and were economically justified, but still... as for now it looks like it would decrease even already small (in comparison to better times) amount of wooters.

I understand that we don't know all the factors you know (I mean, Woot staff) and I hope that you'll figure out how to improve Woot and get it to its previous glory or better new one


talpha1


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Bohsky wrote:Okay, after announcement that Amazon Prime now receive FREE shipping when you shop on Woot - the change of price of t-shirts (with one of the reasons that shipment is included) looks even worse



I was super excited to hear about the free shipping for Prime customers, but when I went on to order a few shirts, I saw that the normally $10 shirts, are now $15. How is that free shipping? For the old pricing structure, I could buy 3 shirts for $30 plus $5 shipping. Now those same 3 shirts will be $45. Being a prime customer doesn't help me out at all. Woot will be losing all my business. I've been increasingly unhappy, so my purchases with Woot have gone from significant to nearly none.
Very disappointing and a very sneaky way to make this look like a good thing, when in actuality it is anything but.


defiantone


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Hm. Finally catching up on this. I have to agree on multiple points already brought up, some very recently:

- My purchasing of several shirts at once will cease unless there's an event with discounted pricing. The shipping per purchase made it worthwhile, and now it's gone.

- hoping the "not super soft" doesn't mean they're polyester-y. Yuck. The one thing about the Anvil shirts is that they're extra comfy without being Old Navy weight see-through.

- free shipping for Prime got me excited UNTIL I found, oh hey, we're already giving you "free" shipping by jacking up the price. Frankly, separate the shipping charge. Then prime members can actually get it free and it's clear what people are paying for, shirt vs shipping instead of trying to make it seem better by combining. I'd rather just have it priced as a $14 shirt, and ship however I chose. You can still clear shipping costs by letting people prioritize - want it Prime? ok, free. Want it standard ship? ok, 5.99. Want it rush? ok, 7.99.

Overall my excitement about Shirt.woot just fell a bunch, even though the shirts are reportedly better.

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