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the derbyDerby #116: Erase Hunger, Create HopeRice Bowl

Rice Bowl

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bvillarreal

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Where the food is, and isn't!

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i. really. like. this. shirt.

utdrana

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Brilliant. I love this.


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Great concept!

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This.....is wonderful! The most creative entry yet..super good.

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This is the best the shirt I've seen on this site and i would most definitely buy one.

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This is the one that has my vote this week... great concept and nice shirt!

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Ummmmm www.freerice.com much?

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loveengrey wrote:Ummmmm www.freerice.com much?


that's what it reminded me of as well

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bvillarreal wrote:Where the food is, and isn't!


looks like maggots.

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bvillarreal wrote:Where the food is, and isn't!


Great piece of information design. I love it.

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hope this makes it, love the concept first shirt ive seen this derby that adresses the idea of one world

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amazing entry, love it!

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Best concept.

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Kassiandora

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I'm too fat. I can't wear a shirt that's about feeding the hungry! I'd get laughed at! more so than I usually do.

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Misskari wrote:Best concept.


100% agree!

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I'm hoping this shirt is going to jump up into the fog over the weekend - great, simple design with a message.

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prism369 wrote:looks like maggots.

That's what I was thinking.

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LOVE this shirt. Fits the theme and is original. But, how do I vote? Don't see a button/link.

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kazoovirtuoso wrote:LOVE this shirt. Fits the theme and is original. But, how do I vote? Don't see a button/link.


You must purchase something from one of the five woot sites before you can vote.

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Clever concept and nice execution! I especially like the sketchy, directional details in the bowl. Nice job.

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awesome!

tdokos

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I can't tell if the shirt is black or brown, but I sure hope it's brown.

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tdokos wrote:I can't tell if the shirt is black or brown, but I sure hope it's brown.


it's brown

danwo

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I really don't know why this is in the fog, not a fan of this design.

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danwo wrote:I really don't know why this is in the fog, not a fan of this design.


It's in the fog because people like generic.

Also because our americacentric worldview refuses to believe people are hungry places other than Africa. Like, yknow, America.

We can't relate to true giving, because we are selfish. We think basic human dignities are socialism. We can only relate to how poor those poor freakin' Africans are. Why you so poor, Africa?


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AdderXYU wrote:It's in the fog because people like generic.

Also because our americacentric worldview refuses to believe people are hungry places other than Africa. Like, yknow, America.

We can't relate to true giving, because we are selfish. We think basic human dignities are socialism. We can only relate to how poor those poor freakin' Africans are. Why you so poor, Africa?


Wow, all I said was I didn't like the design and you go off on me. First of all, I want to emphasize that I simply do not like the design.

As for my worldview is concerned, I do not have a blind pro-American point of view. Additionally, I am very empathetic for those starving in Africa from the Darfur region of Sudan throughout the whole continent. I also realize that people are starving everywhere in the world including the U.S. So, I agree with the theme of the shirt, just not the design.

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loveengrey wrote:Ummmmm www.freerice.com much?


I went to the website and got 1280 grains donated with "English vocabulary" before I got sick of it. How dare you waste my time! The rice does look similar though. Like all rice looks similar.

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A.M.A.Z.I.N.G.
Definitly GMV

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loveengrey wrote:Ummmmm www.freerice.com much?


I agree that it's very similar, but i like the concept. It accomplishes the goal of this derby: when someone asks what the shirt is, you can tell them (him or her) about freerice.com.

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AdderXYU wrote:It's in the fog because people like generic.

Also because our americacentric worldview refuses to believe people are hungry places other than Africa. Like, yknow, America.

We can't relate to true giving, because we are selfish. We think basic human dignities are socialism. We can only relate to how poor those poor freakin' Africans are. Why you so poor, Africa?


Wow. Adder.. that is one the most inappropriate responses I have seen from you.

No duh there's starving people all over the world. In my city I know damn well there are hundreds of children going hungry every night. I do my own part in volunteering to help that cause, because I can. But I CAN'T walk down the street to the food pantry in Kenya.

Say what you will about taking care of your home country first, but that doesn't mean we can just forget that there are other countries that have been ravaged and left for dead with children starving, no hope of ever seeing a school (much less attending) and having to travel 50 miles to find water that isn't going to give them dysentery. This shirt is far more tasteful than the others that are depicting starving children or animals, and is wearable. Generic? Sure, but that's not a crime.

If you believe in a god or other higher power, I don't think they are going to judge you just because you donated to help the cause of feeding hungry children in Africa instead of donating to help the cause of feeding hungry children in America. Either way, you helped a hungry child. Helping he hungry is a good thing, no matter where it takes place.

It is impossible for one person to try and support every noble cause in the world, but don't you dare judge someone for choosing to help a person in one country instead of another.

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AdderXYU wrote:It's in the fog because people like generic.

Also because our americacentric worldview refuses to believe people are hungry places other than Africa. Like, yknow, America.

We can't relate to true giving, because we are selfish. We think basic human dignities are socialism. We can only relate to how poor those poor freakin' Africans are. Why you so poor, Africa?


Didn't I say this on the other shirt's thread?

"If drinking is bitter, change yourself to wine." -Rainer Maria Rilke

"Champagne is a very kind and friendly thing on a rainy night." -Isak Dinesen

"There are many ways to the recognition of truth; Burgundy is one of them." -Isak Dinesen

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Draike wrote:Wow. Adder.. that is one the most inappropriate responses I have seen from you.

No duh there's starving people all over the world. In my city I know damn well there are hundreds of children going hungry every night. I do my own part in volunteering to help that cause, because I can. But I CAN'T walk down the street to the food pantry in Kenya.

Say what you will about taking care of your home country first, but that doesn't mean we can just forget that there are other countries that have been ravaged and left for dead with children starving, no hope of ever seeing a school (much less attending) and having to travel 50 miles to find water that isn't going to give them dysentery. This shirt is far more tasteful than the others that are depicting starving children or animals, and is wearable. Generic? Sure, but that's not a crime.

If you believe in a god or other higher power, I don't think they are going to judge you just because you donated to help the cause of feeding hungry children in Africa instead of donating to help the cause of feeding hungry children in America. Either way, you helped a hungry child. Helping he hungry is a good thing, no matter where it takes place.

It is impossible for one person to try and support every noble cause in the world, but don't you dare judge someone for choosing to help a person in one country instead of another.


Of course generic is not a crime, or else woot would be up before the grand jury by now. Though the world would likely be better without some of their art-is-money design-spewers seeing the light of day. But it is still generic. And generic is what makes this site a blight on the entire concept of respectable art, and fair pay for artists.

Besides the fact that there are much wider issues other than lack of food that keep people in places like Africa hungry, making your donation less assured of helping anyone but the corruption keeping people down in the first place, there certainly is nothing wrong with where you send your money. But it is arguably ignorant and racist to have people automatically think of Africa as the be all and end all of poverty.

I think there is something EXTREMELY wrong that we hear "end hunger" and don't look outside our own doorsteps first. We are not the world police, and if we can't fix our domestic problems, we SHOULDN'T be the world police. Poverty is something that is wide-reaching. Needing help and hope and nourishment is something wide-reaching. Plenty of people were able to evoke this without reaching in and pulling out any racial or cultural content, and make it truly universal. I think it's incredibly tacky to make it into a "all I know about poverty is those black people with the ribs showing" thing. And to me, that's what this is all representing... a lack of understanding of the bigger picture. And while there is a bigger picture than just what is happening at home, ignoring at home makes you just as blind to what's really going on.

TL;DR - this is a concept that can EASILY be represented without bringing race or location into the picture.


AdderXYU

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kylemittskus wrote:Didn't I say this on the other shirt's thread?


Probably. Because it's true.

Funny thing about true things... people tend to say them ;)


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AdderXYU wrote:Probably. Because it's true.

Funny thing about true things... people tend to say them ;)


AdderXYU wrote:I dunno, I went to Africa once and NO ONE ATE. Seriously. I went to this restaurant and got a bowl of flies. They were going to be for the owner's baby, because SERIOUSLY THERE'S NO FOOD IN AFRICA. At least that was better than the other place I went to, the "Holy scaffolding Famine" Cafe, which basically showed me pictures of food in hopes of filling me up.

Point is, people think of Africa as being hungry because food is nonexistent, whereas in places like America, there is so much food that people who are hungry are just slackers. In Africa, some of those guys are born without mouths, and they like it just fine.


Get your life together!!!

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kylemittskus wrote:Get your life together!!!


THOSE WERE TRUE THINGS! CROSS MAH HARTZ!


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Cool shirt

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Very cool concept and design. GMV and good luck.

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This is a good concept, but I'm not really "feeling" the design. For one thing, the line weight separating the rice grains seems to be too thin and less than 20 pixels in weight. I think it would pose a serious printing problem. Hasn't woot previously rejected designs because of this?

Also I'm not fond of the white lines are that are outlining the continents. Is it sewing thread or rice residue leftover in the bowl? The line weight also looks too thin here too. What worries me is that I'm making this critique from the enlarged view of the design in the background.

TylerDC

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Whoa, I love the political message it puts out there.

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I'm going to ignore the social commentary for now and just focus on the thing that bothered me initially when I saw the design. Mapmakers have an inherent problem of mapping a 3D sphere onto a square map, I'm sure we're familiar with the problems with that (landmasses sometimes appear with relative sizes that are not correct, etc). Mapping a 3D sphere onto a 2D circle adds the additional problem of making the continents shown at the edges of said circle super-deformed. I'd have to look at a larger, detailed view to be certain but, at least from the current picture, some countries look barely reocgnizable. Most of North America looks completely bent out of shape, for example.

bvillarreal, is there any chance you could give us a larger image file so that the voters have a better sense of what the land masses on the edges of the bowl are shaped like? It's quite possible that they look just fine, and it only looks strange to my eye because of the small size of the default image.

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While I think that the design would be a good logo for a website, it's not something I would want plastered on my chest.

It is quiet literally a circle with rice distribution that correlates with which countries have food and how much. I, personally, would rather wear a shirt that exhibits an act of kindness instead of stating a food shortage.

Even though the shirt does accurately depict the topic, and in a unique way, I feel that the overall aesthetic appeal is much less than that of the other currently fogging designs.

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IndependentVik wrote:I'm going to ignore the social commentary for now and just focus on the thing that bothered me initially when I saw the design. Mapmakers have an inherent problem of mapping a 3D sphere onto a square map, I'm sure we're familiar with the problems with that (landmasses sometimes appear with relative sizes that are not correct, etc). Mapping a 3D sphere onto a 2D circle adds the additional problem of making the continents shown at the edges of said circle super-deformed. I'd have to look at a larger, detailed view to be certain but, at least from the current picture, some countries look barely reocgnizable. Most of North America looks completely bent out of shape, for example.


It's true that everything is squished, and like you say, not everything is recognizable. This kind of map is known as the Lambert azimuthal equal-area projection, if you want to get fancy--we always have to make trade-offs in mapping a sphere onto a plane. I think that this design accomplishes its goal pretty well in showing relative food availability across the world, even if we can't tell exactly where the countries are. A shirt can only contain so much information, and I think that the statement is well done given the limitations of a t-shirt.

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I guess I just don't get it.

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Trahentis wrote:I agree that it's very similar, but i like the concept. It accomplishes the goal of this derby: when someone asks what the shirt is, you can tell them (him or her) about freerice.com.


Ahhhh yeah it definitely accomplishes the goal of the derby. I'm just not liking how everyone is like, "wow this shirt has such a unique design" cause its basically just freerice, and freerice has been around since forever. But I agree, this shirt would help the cause if it won.

And yeah everyone here should check out www.freerice.com and play it for awhile. You can learn something AND help out the cause in Africa AND have fun. But if thats not your thing, then thehungersite.com is cool also. Just one click and you feed someone a meal.

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Reminded me so much of Free Rice. Honestly, I have no problem with that, either. For those who would buy this shirt and who actually know what FreeRice is, they could seriously spread the word. Advertising.

I'd do it.

♥ Adri.

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AdderXYU wrote:It's in the fog because people like generic.

Also because our americacentric worldview refuses to believe people are hungry places other than Africa. Like, yknow, America.

We can't relate to true giving, because we are selfish. We think basic human dignities are socialism. We can only relate to how poor those poor freakin' Africans are. Why you so poor, Africa?


Madagascar has sushi, I saw the 2005 documentary.

I'm giving up on designing for now... Enjoy my daughter's watercolor of an octopus.

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The perfect shirt?.... i think yes

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factory47 wrote:The perfect shirt?.... i think yes


Not quite.

It's a great concept, but I don't like the emphasis on Africa over other countries, even if it wasn't intentional, it's there. (Actually, if it WAS intentional, if the artist had a particular interest in Africa, then I'd probably be more OK with it....)

Also, the design isn't very visually interesting, although it is well done.


I like it, but not enough to vote and buy, sorry.

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This is the best shirt ever! i would totally buy this shirt. You should keep entering derbys.

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Floridafighter66 wrote:i. really. like. this. shirt.


IRLTS

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I have to agree with the detractors on this one. This shirt is well meaning, but visually generic and boring. Frankly, I don't think its message will be so easily conveyed to others without explanation. At first glance, it's simply the world made out of rice, with no context.

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I don't know... It looks like maggots to me. Esp way there are ones crawling by themselves in places. There should be a notch on one end of the grains, like so: http://www.forestryimages.org/images/3072x2048/5389309.jpg
http://www.samsungimaging.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/0021.jpg
That is where the rice germ used to be.

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bvillarreal wrote:Where the food is, and isn't!

I SO wish your comment here could be on the shirt somewhere. Because I've spent the last few days looking at this in confusion, wondering why the voters would be so enthralled with it. Not that rice in a bowl in the shape of the continents isn't cool and all, but it didn't seem that exciting.
When I read your explanation I had a giant "Oh, now I see!" moment. It's a map of where the food is, yeah ok, good concept. Only problem is, will anyone get that from the image without the explanation? If there was some way to get that across to the casual viewer the design could be so much more.



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what did we learn this derby? Adder is a racist. Not only his comments on this shirt, but on sekiyoku's shirt of a dark skin woman, he says "call a spade a spade." I am guessing there are no posters of MLK in his mom's basement.

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neryam wrote:I don't know... It looks like maggots to me. Esp way there are ones crawling by themselves in places. There should be a notch on one end of the grains, like so: http://www.forestryimages.org/images/3072x2048/5389309.jpg
http://www.samsungimaging.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/0021.jpg
That is where the rice germ used to be.


Yeah, but, what's wrong with maggots being used to indicate where the food is? You get more maggots in places that can afford to have their meat rot, like America. Thus, maggots indicate places of plenty. Also, maggots like food too. Are you some kind of anti-maggot speciesist?



More seriously though, sending food to impoverished countries fails at least as often as it succeeds. That isn't the proper solution. Microlending is a FAR better way to help out the people of such nations. When you send food over, the government seizes it, and distributes it as they see fit. Which means, to the possibly oppressive government officials, and then the possibly oppressive army, and then MAYBE the scraps get to the people, if they're very lucky and their government is less corrupt than most.

If you want to honestly help out, don't send food. Send money directly to business owners who need a seed to transform into profit. Helping business owners prosper allows them to hire people, creating jobs. It also allows the employed to pull themselves out of poverty and pull their children and parents out of poverty.

Try: http://www.kiva.org/ for instance.

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defenestration wrote:what did we learn this derby? Adder is a racist. Not only his comments on this shirt, but on sekiyoku's shirt of a dark skin woman, he says "call a spade a spade." I am guessing there are no posters of MLK in his mom's basement.


My mother's basement would be a horrible place for a poster of anyone. It's damp and unfurnished. A poster down there (such as the Clash playbill she had up from their dates on Broadway) would be absolutely ruined.

That aside, I find the idea of me being a racist to be quite the leap. Especially since the idea of Africa being the definition of poverty is a racist one in general. It's born of a white colonial mindset. There certainly is poverty in Africa, but we should recall that white colonialism certainly led to many of the conflicts that made it that way. There is certainly an undercurrent of racism inherent in the somewhat cocky way we elevate ourselves as gods and saviors for those poor, poverty stricken Africans. It's well meaning, perhaps, and often unconscious, but it's still there.

To say nothing of bringing sekiyoku's piece into the equation. "Calling a spade a spade" is an ancient saying, one with a very simple meaning, and one that only someone with an agenda would translate as racist. To say nothing of calling the girl in her piece "dark skinned" as opposed to "crappy anime drawn on an asphalt tee". Unless dark skinned people are often represented in a dark gray.


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Wow. Thanks very much for all of the votes and feedback. I thought a geographical representation of food distribution in the world, based on information from The World Food Programme and The World Resource Institute would be something that would help raise awareness of just how much hunger there is out there and where the HOPE is. I'm amazed and pleased that this design is doing so well. Thank you again to all who voted and commented. I do enjoy exploring the quizzes at freerice.com - I especially like the foreign languages and chemistry

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AdderXYU wrote:My mother's basement would be a horrible place for a poster of anyone. It's damp and unfurnished. A poster down there (such as the Clash playbill she had up from their dates on Broadway) would be absolutely ruined.

That aside, I find the idea of me being a racist to be quite the leap. Especially since the idea of Africa being the definition of poverty is a racist one in general. It's born of a white colonial mindset. There certainly is poverty in Africa, but we should recall that white colonialism certainly led to many of the conflicts that made it that way. There is certainly an undercurrent of racism inherent in the somewhat cocky way we elevate ourselves as gods and saviors for those poor, poverty stricken Africans. It's well meaning, perhaps, and often unconscious, but it's still there.

To say nothing of bringing sekiyoku's piece into the equation. "Calling a spade a spade" is an ancient saying, one with a very simple meaning, and one that only someone with an agenda would translate as racist. To say nothing of calling the girl in her piece "dark skinned" as opposed to "crappy anime drawn on an asphalt tee". Unless dark skinned people are often represented in a dark gray.


I was quite surprised by defenestration's remarks. It was quite clear (to me) that your related posts were just commentary, not racism. I live in a smaller city that boasts a University and Air Force Base, so there are people from all over the United States, and really from all over the world.

We are surrounded by many even smaller rural communities that are extremely racist, so I have heard a lot of things. However, I have never heard the word "spade" or, indeed, the phrase "call a spade a spade" as a racial slur. Of course, I don't really hang around people that would use such.

It would just... make me want to throw something out the window.

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defenestration wrote:what did we learn this derby? Adder is a racist. Not only his comments on this shirt, but on sekiyoku's shirt of a dark skin woman, he says "call a spade a spade." I am guessing there are no posters of MLK in his mom's basement.


You are completely, 100%, no questions asked, idiotic. My favorite part is "spade a spade" = racist. Please tell me you are being facetious.

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Some have argued about simple designs with mass appeal that are considered "less artistic" in skill, but isn't this a shirt sales competition? I think shirts like this are a great example of marketable material. Eccentric designs are great for artistic ability and there's certainly lots of that on the woot competitions - the artists here are incredible! I love looking at the submissions every day. I admire the work done here. But in the end, in my opinion, this is really a shirt sales competition. The artwork with mass appeal, whether simple or complex, is going to get votes and eventually going to sell lots of shirts.
That being said...I hope to buy this shirt.

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mvngsth wrote:Some have argued about simple designs with mass appeal that are considered "less artistic" in skill, but isn't this a shirt sales competition? I think shirts like this are a great example of marketable material. Eccentric designs are great for artistic ability and there's certainly lots of that on the woot competitions - the artists here are incredible! I love looking at the submissions every day. I admire the work done here. But in the end, in my opinion, this is really a shirt sales competition. The artwork with mass appeal, whether simple or complex, is going to get votes and eventually going to sell lots of shirts.
That being said...I hope to buy this shirt.


Mass appeal = a shirt with rice that doesn't quite look like rice and that mirrors the idea from an already existing website?

"If drinking is bitter, change yourself to wine." -Rainer Maria Rilke

"Champagne is a very kind and friendly thing on a rainy night." -Isak Dinesen

"There are many ways to the recognition of truth; Burgundy is one of them." -Isak Dinesen

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BaldBob007 wrote:I was quite surprised by defenestration's remarks. It was quite clear (to me) that your related posts were just commentary, not racism. I live in a smaller city that boasts a University and Air Force Base, so there are people from all over the United States, and really from all over the world.

We are surrounded by many even smaller rural communities that are extremely racist, so I have heard a lot of things. However, I have never heard the word "spade" or, indeed, the phrase "call a spade a spade" as a racial slur. Of course, I don't really hang around people that would use such.

It would just... make me want to throw something out the window.


To be fair, defenestration is one of my favorite words. It's so colorful, how it rolls off the tongue, and it's such an unusual action to have such a specific word.


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nyren wrote:Yeah, but, what's wrong with maggots being used to indicate where the food is? You get more maggots in places that can afford to have their meat rot, like America. Thus, maggots indicate places of plenty. Also, maggots like food too. Are you some kind of anti-maggot speciesist?

5/5

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UM...server error? I just posted on another design annnd the post showed up here... anyone know how to delete this post?

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prism369 wrote:looks like maggots.


LOL it looked like rice to me...

and then I saw this post...

and now it DOES look like maggots =(

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XshadowraithX wrote:::post removed::

UM...server error? I just posted on another design annnd the post showed up here... anyone know how to delete this post?


All of the posts for and on all the shirt designs are also posted in the thread you found yourself sent to: http://shirt.woot.com/Forums/ViewPost.aspx?PostID=3497761 That thread is also the only place you can edit a comment.

Woot is weird that way.

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dxsmachina wrote:Woot is weird that way.


Yeah, but it means that if a design is deleted, the comments live on in that thread. I *think* that's the main reason for that setup.

It's also nice if you're following comments on all designs at once for people like Adder who are OC enough to do this.

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Love Shirt. Hate Adder. GMV.

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Re: Rice Bowl


I think it's an interesting concept and I'm sure the intentions are noble.

However IMO it's not a good shirt. It just looks junky to me, and IMO the colors stink. On a conceptual level it's manipulating a complex issue to run a guilt trip, there's no love, there's no hope.

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AdderXYU wrote:
Besides the fact that there are much wider issues other than lack of food that keep people in places like Africa hungry, making your donation less assured of helping anyone but the corruption keeping people down in the first place, there certainly is nothing wrong with where you send your money. But it is arguably ignorant and racist to have people automatically think of Africa as the be all and end all of poverty.

...Needing help and hope and nourishment is something wide-reaching. Plenty of people were able to evoke this without reaching in and pulling out any racial or cultural content, and make it truly universal. I think it's incredibly tacky to make it into a "all I know about poverty is those black people with the ribs showing" thing. And to me, that's what this is all representing... a lack of understanding of the bigger picture. And while there is a bigger picture than just what is happening at home, ignoring at home makes you just as blind to what's really going on.


While I don't always agree with your judgment of individual designs, Adder, your analysis of this derby as a whole is spot-on.

I haven't voted for any of the shirts in this derby, and won't. They seem to fall into 3 main camps, with a little bit of overlap between them:
- Happy multicultural kiddies - world hunger is a serious problem, but the reasons for the problem in different places and for different cultures are not all the same; these shirts seem to me to obscure the fact that hunger is a problem, and a problem that is not the same for everyone everywhere.
- Abstract designs or animals/cute things+food designs - seem to be beside the point; world hunger is a problem for people (I know that abstract designs were encouraged by woot this week in the derby rules, but I think that's a problem in and of itself).
- Starving children in Africa - Yes, hunger is a problem in Africa. No, we shouldn't ignore that. But does our vision of hunger always have to be starving, dirty brown children? If that's our vision, why is that our vision, instead of skinny white middleaged guys in line at the local soup kitchen, or moms rotating the days they eat so that their kids can get fed? Why is it viewed as "ok," or even laudable, to have that image of hunger be the first one people think of, without even realizing it, much less realizing or caring about the implications of it?

In this design--and in many others which feature a map or globe--the Americas are literally pushed off to the side or cut off. I understand that on this shirt in particular, that's partially a map projection problem, but that design choice also has sociopolitical implications, as do many other design choices--the robot shirt in the fog, for instance shows a clean silvery-white adult robot 'feeding' dirty brown children robots. Just because a design has sociopolitical implications that you didn't consciously mean when you designed it doesn't mean those implications are not there.

Maybe those implications weren't quite what you were going for, and maybe you didn't realize you were putting them in--but those implications are totally what you actually got, whether you realized it or not.

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Cassandra2 wrote:While I don't always agree with your judgment of individual designs, Adder, your analysis of this derby as a whole is spot-on.

I haven't voted for any of the shirts in this derby, and won't. They seem to fall into 3 main camps, with a little bit of overlap between them:
- Happy multicultural kiddies - world hunger is a serious problem, but the reasons for the problem in different places and for different cultures are not all the same; these shirts seem to me to obscure the fact that hunger is a problem, and a problem that is not the same for everyone everywhere.
- Abstract designs or animals/cute things+food designs - seem to be beside the point; world hunger is a problem for people (I know that abstract designs were encouraged by woot this week in the derby rules, but I think that's a problem in and of itself).
- Starving children in Africa - Yes, hunger is a problem in Africa. No, we shouldn't ignore that. But does our vision of hunger always have to be starving, dirty brown children? If that's our vision, why is that our vision, instead of skinny white middleaged guys in line at the local soup kitchen, or moms rotating the days they eat so that their kids can get fed? Why is it viewed as "ok," or even laudable, to have that image of hunger be the first one people think of, without even realizing it, much less realizing or caring about the implications of it?

In this design--and in many others which feature a map or globe--the Americas are literally pushed off to the side or cut off. I understand that on this shirt in particular, that's partially a map projection problem, but that design choice also has sociopolitical implications, as do many other design choices--the robot shirt in the fog, for instance shows a clean silvery-white adult robot 'feeding' dirty brown children robots. Just because a design has sociopolitical implications that you didn't consciously mean when you designed it doesn't mean those implications are not there.

Maybe those implications weren't quite what you were going for, and maybe you didn't realize you were putting them in--but those implications are totally what you actually got, whether you realized it or not.


Another thing. If it were just an africa problem, then it would be african hunger day, or if it where just the third world it would be called as such. But seeing how it is WORLD hunger day, any depiction of a specific ethnicity in need would be a bit misleading.


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MasterWolf wrote:Love Shirt. Hate Adder. GMV.


Strongly dislike shirt. Love Adder.


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How you can make a difference

I will be the first to admit that I am not the most talented artist posting designs on woot. I'm definitely not the most experienced in the use of graphics design software. I can see my own shortcomings and enjoy working to improve them. Last week a family member was injured and is having financial difficulties as a result. I decided to enter the derby, really not expecting to win - but hoping I would so that I could make a difference for that person, who is very important to me. The theme for this derby is one that asks us to focus on those less fortunate. Those less fortunate live across the globe and are of all races. It is sad to me to see so many people in these threads pounding out vitriolic criticism that is not only hurtful to the person addressed, but dismissive and insensitive to whole groups of people. I realize there are people in need in all countries, including developed countries like the U.S.

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