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The Pica Republic

Motto: "Lorem Ipsum Dolor Sit Amet", which roughly translates to "This is a typography joke".

Ethnic groups: 26 lower case letters, 26 upper case letters, 10 digits, various punctuation

National anthem: Who Shot the Serif?

Size of country: 12 points

Most common natural disaster: comma splices

National Sport: watching quick brown foxes jump over the lazy dogs

Emblem: As the indigenous people are quite athletic, Picans are very passionate about their national sport. Thus, the fox and the dog are national symbols, be they quick, brown, lazy, or none of the above.

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For the record, there are six colours: orange, white, yellow and three shades of green. The outline is the shirt colour (brown).

eHalcyon wrote:For the record, there are six colours: orange, white, yellow and three shades of green. The outline is the shirt colour (brown).

just gonna tell you, foxes rock!
Nice job.

capttylor34 wrote:just gonna tell you, foxes rock!
Nice job.

Thanks! Some people should recognize the fox from last week. When I drew him for the Summer derby it was basically a throw-away entry; I'd drawn him freehand so the lines were quite rough and shaky. I was really surprised at how well it did.

This fox has been done more carefully using the pen tool. I hope that's a good thing!

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GMV! Great looking design.

bloczyns wrote:GMV! Great looking design.

Much appreciated! I hope the typographical jokes aren't too esoteric.

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What language is that?

Frdmstang wrote:What language is that?

Lorem ipsum is actually standard filler text. It is a modified form of a latin passage. It's used in typography, font and layout design because it approximates letter distribution in the English language, thus appearing natural on a page, while not containing any comprehensible meaning (which would distract the viewer from the font/layout).

The entire design is a typography joke.

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Wow... one of the greatest shirt designs I have seen on Woot. I hope it will win.

stevemchey wrote:Wow... one of the greatest shirt designs I have seen on Woot. I hope it will win.

I've seen much better that haven't won. But yes, this is a great design (and I'm not biased at all ).

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I'd be in for one!

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flight patch style. love it.

and the adorable fox seals the deal. gmv

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the fox is the best. nice job.

I love everything about this design. Well done!

naemorris wrote:I'd be in for one!

alsoelp wrote:flight patch style. love it.

and the adorable fox seals the deal. gmv

jzelts wrote:the fox is the best. nice job.

Ashleyrah wrote:I love everything about this design. Well done!

Much appreciated everyone!

No love for the puppy though?

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Eric!! It's so cute! GMV and good luck!

llonvent wrote:Eric!! It's so cute! GMV and good luck!

Thanks! With all the amazing entries sitting just below the fog right now, I really need the luck.

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I love that fox.

derekfilley wrote:I love that fox.

I hope at least 600 other people do too.

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Love the fox and the dog

Are you the same person that had the fox with the hot sun for the summer derby? That was the only design I actually voted for last week! I loved it, and was very sad to see it not place higher. I liked the summer theme fox better than this one, but I really really like that fox, so you get my vote again this week.

Just my 2 cents, but keep submitting that fox if people overlook you again. I really want a shirt with it!

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I worked in printing for 20 years and now teach "Visual Communications". I love dogs and have had WAY too many teenagers argue that "Lorem . . ." means something!! You obviously designed this just for me!

Great Job!!

gtonfire05 wrote:Love the fox and the dog

They love you too.

paulkremer wrote:Are you the same person that had the fox with the hot sun for the summer derby? That was the only design I actually voted for last week! I loved it, and was very sad to see it not place higher. I liked the summer theme fox better than this one, but I really really like that fox, so you get my vote again this week.

Just my 2 cents, but keep submitting that fox if people overlook you again. I really want a shirt with it!

Yep, that's me! The fox in the summer derby was actually drawn really quickly - if you looked at it closely, you'd see the lines become thick and thin in strange places. It was rather sloppy, actually. It was such a simple and sparse design, I had no idea it would do as well as it did. This fox was redrawn more carefully.

If I don't make it this derby (knock on wood) I'll definitely use the fox again, but I'll probably cool it for a while. People get enough heat for reusing elements (case study: derekfilley's gas-mask guy) that I don't think I could survive using the fox three weeks in a row. I really appreciate your support!

sfsnyder wrote:I worked in printing for 20 years and now teach "Visual Communications". I love dogs and have had WAY too many teenagers argue that "Lorem . . ." means something!! You obviously designed this just for me!

Great Job!!

Well... it used to mean something, right? XP

I hope you get to use this shirt to teach those punk kids a lesson. Literally!

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Hey! latin! Great minds and all =D I like the cute fox and the quick facts about your place l ol

eyeslikesugar wrote:Hey! latin! Great minds and all =D I like the cute fox and the quick facts about your place l ol

It isn't real latin.

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this shirt is so cute!

eHalcyon wrote:It isn't real latin.

It's close to real Latin; based on a excerpt from a text by Cicero, which read "...qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet..."

I never studied Latin, but it seems to mean something like, "he who desires pain for the sake of pain itself."

I am a geek, quod erat demonstrandum.

craydrygu wrote:It's close to real Latin; based on a excerpt from a text by Cicero, which read "...qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet..."

I never studied Latin, but it seems to mean something like, "he who desires pain for the sake of pain itself."

I am a geek, quod erat demonstrandum.

Yeah, the filler text is descended from an actual latin text. The wikipedia entry on Lorem Ipsum includes a longer excerpt of the standard text, as well as an excerpt from the original text and its translation.

eHalcyon wrote:They love you too.

You're so funny.

I have wanted that fox since the "summer" derby. Nice to see it resurface, new and improved. Hope it wins.

crocofish wrote:I have wanted that fox since the "summer" derby. Nice to see it resurface, new and improved. Hope it wins.

Thanks! It didn't really take much of a dive before resurfacing (the Summer derby was just last week), but I hope that helps the design rather than hinders it. I know people sometimes tire of seeing the same stuff over and over again.

Okay, I'm loving the whole geekly text action...pica republic and all...GMV, and I WANT IT! Hopefully the fox and dog have so much of a cute factor that this'll get printed for us geeky word nerds...

invisiblecrazy wrote:Okay, I'm loving the whole geekly text action...pica republic and all...GMV, and I WANT IT! Hopefully the fox and dog have so much of a cute factor that this'll get printed for us geeky word nerds...

Yeah, I was targeting two demographics with this one.

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Very cute. Love the latin pun as well!

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Am in love with the whole shebang. The nerdy word-play, the graphics (yup, loving the dog as much as the fox), the Mini Cooper wings and the colours. Excellent job. Definetly GMV.

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Thumbs up!

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Very nice! I love the quality of the hand-drawn animals, and the text is very silly. I think I still have a webpage with that on it...

GravityJMB wrote:Very cute. Love the latin pun as well!

I don't think it counts as a pun, though I do think it was a good joke.

curb1510 wrote:Am in love with the whole shebang. The nerdy word-play, the graphics (yup, loving the dog as much as the fox), the Mini Cooper wings and the colours. Excellent job. Definetly GMV.

Huh, I've never seen that logo before. I just wanted to add some wing-ish things so it wasn't just a circle.

Barbequepork wrote:Thumbs up!

Thanks!

SkekTek wrote:Very nice! I love the quality of the hand-drawn animals, and the text is very silly. I think I still have a webpage with that on it...

Much appreciated! Lorem ipsum always makes under-construction websites look more professional.



*sigh* out of the hotness...

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too cute..i'm so in : )

narkus wrote:too cute..i'm so in : )

Thanks! I need all the help I can get with all the brilliant designs just below...

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I want to add to my nation description...

Another popular sport is running. On sentences. Unfortunately, it's almost as bad for the environment as those pesky comma splices.

Get it? Run-on sentences?

Nobody understands my humour.

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Ha! I spent more than a decade in publishing production. I *will* buy this T-shirt. I will probably buy gifties for my word-geek friends, too. Hee!

eHalcyon wrote:I want to add to my nation description...

Another popular sport is running. On sentences. Unfortunately, it's almost as bad for the environment as those pesky comma splices.

Get it? Run-on sentences?

Nobody understands my humour.

I get it. I love English major humor. :-)

eHalcyon wrote:I want to add to my nation description...

Another popular sport is running. On sentences. Unfortunately, it's almost as bad for the environment as those pesky comma splices.

Get it? Run-on sentences?

Nobody understands my humour.

Ba-dum-bump.

Considering I am addicted to ellipses, I got the joke right away when I read what you wrote and thought about sentences and
silly grammatical rules that no one seems to follow unless they're really obsessed with writing and words and all that good stuff
(which some people don't consider to be good stuff since they ignore it all of the time) and I would add a comma splice or two
in here but just doing a full-on run-on is too much work for my brain when I spend most of my time correcting things like this... {INHALE}

lyonessnyc wrote:Ha! I spent more than a decade in publishing production. I *will* buy this T-shirt. I will probably buy gifties for my word-geek friends, too. Hee!

Words are power!

daedalusknight wrote:I get it. I love English major humor. :-)

I'm actually in Engineering, but English was my third choice (behind design, ha!) if I didn't get into engineering (which was unlikely). The other day I submitted a poetry portfolio to try for a poetry workshop course thinger...

invisiblecrazy wrote:Ba-dum-bump.

Considering I am addicted to ellipses, I got the joke right away when I read what you wrote and thought about sentences and silly grammatical rules that no one seems to follow unless they're really obsessed with writing and words and all that good stuff (which some people don't consider to be good stuff since they ignore it all of the time) and I would add a comma splice or two in here but just doing a full-on run-on is too much work for my brain when I spend most of my time correcting things like this... {INHALE}

Archaeologists have yet to discover any fully-intact treasures buried in the soils of the Pica Republic, but they have discovered many fragments. Sentence fragments.

Oh Dear eHalcyon,
You take offence where absolutely none was intended. I REALLY, sincerely am behind this design and was not throwing about accusations re the Mini Cooper wings. It's just that you can't throw a Kleenex in my country without hitting a Mini (usually the old Brit. ones). Mini is just so much a part of our cultural landscape that I was responding out of my experience. I can easily see how an American may not be so familiar with this element of design.
Sorry if I offended and I'll be even sorrier if this does not win!

curb1510 wrote:Oh Dear eHalcyon,
You take offence where absolutely none was intended. I REALLY, sincerely am behind this design and was not throwing about accusations re the Mini Cooper wings. It's just that you can't throw a Kleenex in my country without hitting a Mini (usually the old Brit. ones). Mini is just so much a part of our cultural landscape that I was responding out of my experience. I can easily see how an American may not be so familiar with this element of design.
Sorry if I offended and I'll be even sorrier if this does not win!

No no, you didn't offend me, and I didn't think it was an accusation at all! Someone else mentioned it looked like a flight patch. The wings are just a common element in heraldry, emblem design and whatnot.

I'm sorry I sounded offended. Ah, so much apologizing.

Anyway, thank-you for your support.

Out of curiosity, are you in England? I'm not American, but a bit farther north.

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I'm enjoying the comments as much as the shirt. Very clever, very cute, voted and will buy or try to buy... I just remembered I will be on a cruise when this derby comes up. :-( Lets hope it makes first place!!! I can still get it, then.

CAMMS wrote:I'm enjoying the comments as much as the shirt. Very clever, very cute, voted and will buy or try to buy... I just remembered I will be on a cruise when this derby comes up. :-( Lets hope it makes first place!!! I can still get it, then.

If it's a fancy cruise, shouldn't they have wireless internet?

I'm hoping some other people would be willing to add to my nation's history with their own typographical tales.

Thanks for the support!

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Can someone tell me how "pica" is pronounced? Pie-ka or pee-ka?

eHalcyon wrote:Can someone tell me how "pica" is pronounced? Pie-ka or pee-ka?

Pie-kuh.

At least according to the Wiktionary...

Love the wings, love the pun and all... will buy, hope you place first!!! Good luck!

daedalusknight wrote:Pie-kuh.

At least according to the Wiktionary...

Darn. That's what I thought, but I was hoping I could make some sort of pecan joke.

illuminator wrote:Love the wings, love the pun and all... will buy, hope you place first!!! Good luck!

I'm just hoping to place better than fourth. Thanks!

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Freakin' awesome, man. I don't ever leave comments on the ones I vote for, but I felt like I should on this one.

I can't wait to own a shirt with this on it. ^_^

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This is absolutely adorable! I would love to wear this.

MooCowMama wrote:Freakin' awesome, man. I don't ever leave comments on the ones I vote for, but I felt like I should on this one.

I can't wait to own a shirt with this on it. ^_^

Thanks! And I hope you don't have to wait more than a week.

PhoebeP wrote:This is absolutely adorable! I would love to wear this.

I'm glad you like it.

heh, I was reading the description of the Pican republic and I immediately thought about pecans. National Pie? Well I saw your entry in the "Summer" derby and I told myself i needed a shirt with this fox on it. I'm totally loving this design including the dog. My father always said "the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog" for some reason, and it's perfect!

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I love this fox! And now a cute dog too! Great design and concept, gmv.

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I feel like a dumbass. I assumed this was some sort of "Fox and the Hound" reference (I loved that movie as a child). I read the description and found I was entirely wrong.
cute design!

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zeroes do not exist here? that's too bad....

by the way, i love it! +1 vote

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This made my day! Do they even do this rhyme in typing classes any more? Great design, extremely clever concept!

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Thanks for the comments everyone.

@sigaru - I'm not sure what you mean about zeroes.

@DagmarDobbs - Did they use "Lorem Ipsum" in typing classes? the Lorem Ipsum text is commonly used filler text.

eHalcyon wrote:@DagmarDobbs - Did they use "Lorem Ipsum" in typing classes? the Lorem Ipsum text is commonly used filler text.

I believe he meant that typing classes use "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog," the other text your shirt references.

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Okay - another story of dealing with "know-it-all" teenagers: 1st level class, I'm introducing picas and points (yeah - Pie Ka) and have a lovely 9th grade lass assure me that it is pronounced Pee Ka. I respond that I am certain that it is Pie Ka and that Pee Ka actually describes a mental disorder in which the person eats inappropriate things, i.e. glass, dirt, metal . . . (my hubby is a shrink - I'm a word geek, but there are limits :D)

She was undaunted and, strangely enough, she did not return for the next level class . . . perhaps she is somewhere eating rocks????

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I'm sorry, but i just dont understand why this is so popular. Is it in the fog purely because it was one of the first entries? Clearly I may be one of the only ones that feel this way.

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Cute and clever, what more could you want?

Eastaer wrote:I'm sorry, but i just dont understand why this is so popular. Is it in the fog purely because it was one of the first entries? Clearly I may be one of the only ones that feel this way.

You're not the only one. It's way too cute and child-ish for me but I can understand why it's at the top. This is shirt.woot. There's a different standard/taste here than at other sites like Design By Humans, threadless, and etc.

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Thanks for the comments once again, everyone.

@GF - Ah, that makes much more sense! Yeah, I suspect that the phrase would be used in typing classes. It's a rather popular pangram.

@sfsnyder - Thanks for sharing that story!

@Eastaer and hmmxkrazee - I believe most would have voted for the cute factor, though I believe a few voters would have appreciated the humour as well, given the comments made. tandusi above summarizes what I was going for rather concisely. I don't know how much longer I can last in the fog though... there are lots of amazing designs rising up.

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its awesome. I am sure it will win, I hope it will. I am totally in for 3. will be my first purchase to take advantage of the international shipping. my best friend lives in Israel now, and would ADORE this shirt. not only would she totally get the joke, but the puppy dog would seal the deal. plus the slight military feel to it. I plan to surprise her with it, since her birthday present never made it to her this year. it really is an excellent design.

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I really hope this wins, I need that fox shirt :D

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I want to love this shirt, but the fox and dog pictures would make me turn in my man card if I wore this in public. Conversely, my girlfriend wanted this shirt until she saw the saw the countries' motto. She just didn't get it, and even after I explained it to her, she didn't feel comfortable trying to explain it to her friends. Oh well.

I wouldn't worry eHalcyon. After reading all the comments, I believe you have enough smarter women and pleasantly upbeat guys to get you into the top 3. Good luck!

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Cutie McCute-Cute. I like how the dog looks a little surprised. Nicely done.

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I guess I should have paid more attention in English class or typing class or Latin (well I never took Latin) but I have no clue what the big joke with this shirt is.... I read the first post about what the words translate to but I don't see how anyone is going to understand what that means in the "real world", and the fact that I’m the only person posting confusion kinda makes me feel really dumb.... oh well at least I’m good at math! ;)

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@SaritaBeth - I hope your confidence isn't misplaced! Thank-you for the support.

@Mootsfox - Thanks!

@barabajagle - I know there are plenty of straight men who would be comfortable wearing "cute" stuff as well. I was targeting two demographics in this design, and I was aware that it was risky because I could end up alienating both sides. Hopefully the risk was worth it.

@judycallgirl - The dog just woke up.

@cheer4vols - the "translation" in the description isn't a real translation. The motto isn't a real Latin phrase - there actually isn't any meaning in it at all. The phrase is actually from a standard piece of filler text commonly used in typography. If you're interested, you can read a bit about it on Wikipedia.

Thanks for the comments everyone!

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This shirt looks delicious. It is edible, right? (Yes. I get that it's not that kind of pica.)

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I like this design and it would certainly deserve to be in the top 4 if it met the requirements. I say that because there is no indication on this shirt that this is a place. Anyone who hadn't read the description (Even someone who knows latin) would be unable to tell you that this is supposed to be a country. I fully appreciate the joke of it and the amount of time that must have been spent on it, but it honestly does not satisfy the derby stipulations. This is just for your consideration. Thanks.

eHalcyon wrote:Thanks for the comments everyone.

@sigaru - I'm not sure what you mean about zeroes.

@DagmarDobbs - Did they use "Lorem Ipsum" in typing classes? the Lorem Ipsum text is commonly used filler text.

I think sigaru was referring to your first post, how you said there were 9 digits. Are zeroes extinct or is it merely a base-nine numeral system that occupies the land?

llonvent wrote:I think sigaru was referring to your first post, how you said there were 9 digits. Are zeroes extinct or is it merely a base-nine numeral system that occupies the land?

Maybe the alphabet dragon ate all the zeros. :-)

eHalcyon wrote:No no, you didn't offend me, and I didn't think it was an accusation at all! Someone else mentioned it looked like a flight patch. The wings are just a common element in heraldry, emblem design and whatnot.

I'm sorry I sounded offended. Ah, so much apologizing.

Anyway, thank-you for your support.

Out of curiosity, are you in England? I'm not American, but a bit farther north.

"Not an American but a bit further north" plus the curteous apology = Canadian. Am I right? I am Canadian and this apologizing back and forth is just so typical of our culture.
I am an ex-pat living in Geneva, Switzerland. You really wouldn't believe the number of Minis here. Minis, Smart cars and Vespas cover about 90% of what is on the road here. A Honda Civic would look like an Escalade in this country.
Good luck on the Derby...if it doesn't win are you planning on reproducing it somewhere else because I'd been up for that.
Thanks for writing back!

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@tjflashman77 - Well it's 100% cotton, right? Does that make it edible?

@ccsprinter11 - I think most people would be able to tell you that it is an emblem for some place. I think my design fits the requirements just fine, though I'll understand if the rejectionator feels differently. Thanks for your concern.

@llonvent and daedalusknight - OH. Well, that's embarassing. I've fixed the description. e_e

@curb1510 - Canadian, you got it. I haven't made any plans to produce failed designs elsewhere, but I'll keep it in mind. Perhaps at some point I'll set up something on Cafepress or another similar site.

If you do set up designs on another site, let me know! I want that fox with the hot sun above him. I still like that design.

Also, I think if the rejectionator was going to rejectionate you, it would have been done already, rather than sitting in the top 4 slots for several days now. I would say you have a good chance of getting this one into a weekend slot!

paulkremer wrote:If you do set up designs on another site, let me know! I want that fox with the hot sun above him. I still like that design.

Also, I think if the rejectionator was going to rejectionate you, it would have been done already, rather than sitting in the top 4 slots for several days now. I would say you have a good chance of getting this one into a weekend slot!

Maybe I should make a list of people?

I've heard that designs in the fog usually aren't rejected right away. Hopefully I've passed already though.

paulkremer wrote:If you do set up designs on another site, let me know! I want that fox with the hot sun above him. I still like that design.

I still like it too! Add me to that list. :D

I applaud the humor, but its quite a bit too cutesy for me. Stick it on a lighter color and it'd look great as a babydoll though.

sfsnyder wrote:Okay - another story of dealing with "know-it-all" teenagers: 1st level class, I'm introducing picas and points (yeah - Pie Ka) and have a lovely 9th grade lass assure me that it is pronounced Pee Ka. I respond that I am certain that it is Pie Ka and that Pee Ka actually describes a mental disorder in which the person eats inappropriate things, i.e. glass, dirt, metal . . . (my hubby is a shrink - I'm a word geek, but there are limits :D)

She was undaunted and, strangely enough, she did not return for the next level class . . . perhaps she is somewhere eating rocks????

hee-hee : ) i thought of the eating disorder too! i teach 9th grade English but have a masters in sp. ed. (emotional impairments and learning disabilities). the dsm is a fun read : ) when i saw pica, it was the first thing that popped (pooped) into my head. and i've caught my dogs eating some nasty stuff.

the fox is a cutie but the doggie has my love : )

sfsnyder wrote:Okay - another story of dealing with "know-it-all" teenagers: 1st level class, I'm introducing picas and points (yeah - Pie Ka) and have a lovely 9th grade lass assure me that it is pronounced Pee Ka. I respond that I am certain that it is Pie Ka and that Pee Ka actually describes a mental disorder in which the person eats inappropriate things, i.e. glass, dirt, metal . . . (my hubby is a shrink - I'm a word geek, but there are limits :D)

She was undaunted and, strangely enough, she did not return for the next level class . . . perhaps she is somewhere eating rocks????

hee-hee : ) i thought of the eating disorder too! i teach 9th grade English but have a masters in sp. ed. (emotional impairments and learning disabilities). the dsm is a fun read : ) when i saw pica, it was the first thing that popped (pooped) into my head. and i've caught my dogs eating some nasty stuff.

the fox is a cutie but the doggie has my love : )

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Hey e, it's good to join you in the fog. I hope we both make it to print! Layering brown and yellow shirts could be the new craze... Good luck!

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Fun, brainy, and cute. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for this one! GMV, e!!!

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The design is good, simple and printable. Am somewhat confused with the relation between the name and the design, others seem to have made the connection a little clearer. Is it 'Pica' like the sound made by the pokemon? Or what is 'pica'?

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@Mitamasan and anyone else who might want to be on "the list" - to be safe, you should probably PM me so I remember, although I would likely check this thread anyway since it's my first ever fogged design. If I ever open a store somewhere, I'll put a notification in my signature too, so you could just keep your eyes peeled!

@gravitybound - thanks for the kind words. I'll keep your suggestions in mind in case I don't make it to print.

@narkus - I think you're the first commenter who prefers the dog to the fox! I'm glad you like the puppy. Hmm, if I had known of this alternate definition of "pica" I would have considered a different name.

@rglee129 - First letter basis! It's nice to have you in the fog, r, even though you kicked out my favourite design in this derby. Your sunny outlook sure helped you get up here fast! I don't layer shirts though, despite being Canadian.

@mlovesr - e is very happy!

@vnebel - Didn't even think of pikachu, hah! I think a few people haven't made the connection either, though most commenters have it figured out. The entire design is a typography joke:

1. The emblem depicts the classic pangram "the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog" (with some aesthetic modifications like having the fox be more orange).
2. The "motto" is actually standard filler text.
3. The name of the country refers to the pica as a unit of measurement common in typography.



Speaking of layering... I don't know if it makes a difference, but this shirt should be very breathable if/when printed. I cut away as much as I could in the print-ready file so no colour overlaps another.

GREAT shirt! As a graphic designer, I fully appreciate the typography humor!!

gravitybound wrote:I applaud the humor, but its quite a bit too cutesy for me. Stick it on a lighter color and it'd look great as a babydoll though.

Agreed, great for kidshirt.woot

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Hey eHalcyon, I was actually about to post pretty much exactly what you wrote over on my shirt's thread over here. I would say its been about 50/50 from what i can see in terms of who's been on top in the fog. CWarrington's page has us and Youbetchacan neck and neck right now, with Sublimican out in front by about 30(ish) still.

Good luck to you as well! Looking forward to seeing how everything pans out this weekend!

briannyc128 wrote:Hey eHalcyon, I was actually about to post pretty much exactly what you wrote over on my shirt's thread over here. I would say its been about 50/50 from what i can see in terms of who's been on top in the fog. CWarrington's page has us and Youbetchacan neck and neck right now, with Sublimican out in front by about 30(ish) still.

Good luck to you as well! Looking forward to seeing how everything pans out this weekend!

Oooh... this will be especially interesting since Youtbetchucan has just fallen out of the hotness after so long. I have no idea how SDS keeps estimates, but I wonder if it might be off a bit because the fogged entries haven't been dominating the hotness as much as they do in most derbies? Or maybe I've just been noticing it more in this derby because I'm more interested in the outcome than usual.

Since the three of us are so close right now, do you think a three-way tie would be possible? That would be amazing, because I really want Fantasma... XP

eHalcyon wrote:Oooh... this will be especially interesting since Youtbetchucan has just fallen out of the fog after so long. I have no idea how SDS keeps estimates, but I wonder if it might be off a bit because the fogged entries haven't been dominating the hotness as much as they do in most derbies? Or maybe I've just been noticing it more in this derby because I'm more interested in the outcome than usual.

Since the three of us are so close right now, do you think a three-way tie would be possible? That would be amazing, because I really want Fantasma... XP

It fell out of the fog or out of the hotness?

The way I understand it, for the fogged shirts, SDS looks at the hotness ratings for those 4 shirts every three hours and uses them to add to the vote totals. If a shirt isn't in the hotness but is in the fog, it inputs the highest possible vote total the shirt could have but still be out of the fog (... so really the lowest fog total). As a result the totals are usually a bit inflated because it would only be perfect if each shirt was always one vote away from the hotness.

briannyc128 wrote:It fell out of the fog or out of the hotness?

The way I understand it, for the fogged shirts, SDS looks at the hotness ratings for those 4 shirts every three hours and uses them to add to the vote totals. If a shirt isn't in the hotness but is in the fog, it inputs the highest possible vote total the shirt could have but still be out of the fog (... so really the lowest fog total). As a result the totals are usually a bit inflated because it would only be perfect if each shirt was always one vote away from the hotness.

Sorry, I meant the hotness. Edited my original comment so as not to confuse anyone.

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but fogged entries in most derbies I've participated in seem to always be at the top of the hotness. The fact that we've all been dropping in and out of the hotness may actually have a profound effect on the estimates, if your understanding is correct. It's probably a bit more complicated than that though (i.e. not just looking every three hours but keeping a constant tab on the hotness and doing some magic calculations with that info).

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great design!

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This is my favorite of all the fogged designs - here's hoping it's victorious! I've always wanted a shirt with "lorem ipsum" on it... on top of which, the little fox and dog are exceedingly cute.

newzern wrote:great design!

Thanks nz.

aetheria wrote:This is my favorite of all the fogged designs - here's hoping it's victorious! I've always wanted a shirt with "lorem ipsum" on it... on top of which, the little fox and dog are exceedingly cute.

SDS estimates have it down to the wire, but the current hotness is rather scary. Even if this doesn't make it to print, thanks go out to you and everyone else for all the kind words. It's an honour to be in the fog!

I would just like to say that i LOVE the design. I voted for it, hope it wins, and am in for one if it does (and probably one for my hubby as well. He is considering whether it is cool or not for both of us to own identical shirts).

I really enjoy the wit that is involved. I like to dabble with web design so this shirt is right up my alley.

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Nooo! This must be printed!!! Lit geeks just don't get much made for them!

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I read most the comments but got sleepy.

This is well executed but I don't get the association with theme.

If I saw this on the street, I would think it was like a printing company joke shirt or something. I don't see the topic at all.

I might buy it and wear it but not because it is so on topic....just cuz itz cool,

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I get all the jokes and appreciate them, but I just wish that the fox was actually jumping for one, and two, that the dog was actually lazy. To me the dog looks like a young spry puppy who won't quit howling.

This shirt has all the elements of a graphic design joke (a fox and a dog and lorem ipsum and the name the pica republic) but I just don't think they're delivered well.

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**The fox looks more like a flying squirrel.

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@starryeyedsky - I hope you (and your husband!) get to purchase the shirt, though things are looking grim.

@invisiblecrazy - well, there were those two raven shirts from the text as art derby... but thanks for the support!

@magicelso - thanks for the compliments. I actually think the opposite of you - that I did fairly well for hitting the theme, but my execution was only so-so.

@pennglendinning - The fox is in mid-jump. I don't think my puppy looks so spry, though he could certainly be more lazy. Someone told me that he looks like he just woke up and is a bit surprised. I agree that the execution could have been much better, but I'm not the greatest artist - I'm working at it. I complete disagree that the fox looks like a flying squirrel though. No way.



Thanks for the comments everyone! This is my first fogged entry and I appreciate the support the design has received. Whether I get a shiny new "So Close" badge on SDS come Sunday or, by some miracle or fluke I manage to place, I'm definitely happy with (and a little surprised at) how I've done this derby. Thank-you, democratic republic of woot!

eHalcyon wrote:
@pennglendinning - The fox is in mid-jump. I don't think my puppy looks so spry, though he could certainly be more lazy. Someone told me that he looks like he just woke up and is a bit surprised. I agree that the execution could have been much better, but I'm not the greatest artist - I'm working at it. I complete disagree that the fox looks like a flying squirrel though. No way.

heh, I meant the position of his legs, not his coloration or anything . . . sorry for the poor phrasing. I'd expect a fox's legs in mid jump to be stretched out in front and behind . . . not to the side. ANYWAYS, kudos on the fog.

eHalcyon wrote:@starryeyedsky - I hope you (and your husband!) get to purchase the shirt, though things are looking grim.

Thanks for the comments everyone! This is my first fogged entry and I appreciate the support the design has received. Whether I get a shiny new "So Close" badge on SDS come Sunday or, by some miracle or fluke I manage to place, I'm definitely happy with (and a little surprised at) how I've done this derby. Thank-you, democratic republic of woot!

Congrats eHalcyon!!! The worst you could possibly have done now is 4th place, which is pretty impressive indeed. While I certainly hope you place 3rd or better so I can get the shirt, congratulations are in order either way!

On a side note, this is the first derby ever where I have felt the top 4 actually deserved to be there. The top 4 shirts this week are my top 4 picks as well. Either the designs were just above and beyond the others and it was obvious to everyone, or Woot is implanting thoughts in my head telekinetically...I hope it's the first one.

eHalcyon wrote:
@invisiblecrazy - well, there were those two raven shirts from the text as art derby... but thanks for the support!

Though those were text, they wern't punalicious and uber geekly, which I consider lorem ipsum to be... I do have one of the raven shirts, heh...

Put me on The List if this doesn't get published, please? :-)

And I think your execution is great, so shut that inner crit.ic up! (weird--woots filterama turned c r i t i c into "hater." Whatever.)

Flawless!

eHalcyon -

I do hope that we get the opportunity to buy your shirt on Saturday or Sunday. It would make a great birthday present for my English Writing/English Lit major wife...

Regardless... add me to you "list" as well if this doesn't get made by woot!

Semaj

I love this shirt, I really hope that it wins 2nd or 3rd.

donna8157 wrote:I love this shirt, I really hope that it wins 2nd or 3rd.

Please oh please let this shirt win....I will buy 5 of them....

Oh noes! Sublimican got the 2nd place Saturday shirt. I have been waiting for the Pica shirt all week. Youbetchucan rose up quickly, but late in the derby. Pica was up in the top 4 early in the derby. I just don't know how this will turn out. The fate is already determined, but I'll have to wait until Sunday. I'll be there waiting at midnight CDT.

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EFF!
Please somebody tell me I didn't miss this shirt. I couldn't get on yesterday.. Dx

This wasn't yesterday's woot was it??

SteelFroggy wrote:EFF!
Please somebody tell me I didn't miss this shirt. I couldn't get on yesterday.. Dx

This wasn't yesterday's woot was it??

*giggles*, nevermind sorry.

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Hey everyone,

Thanks for all the kind words. I've noticed many of you have been commenting on yesterday's and today's shirt that you're waiting for mine. I've got to say that it's really touching and I feel quite honoured.

That said, if Youbetchucan makes third (and I really do think it will), I think it would be better if you guys didn't post too many "oh noes!" comments. rg is an amazing artist and his cheery country deserves to print tomorrow as much as the Pica Republic - it probably deserves it more, considering how quickly he rose through ranks!

Whatever happens, I'll make up some sort of list this weekend with the names of the people who have commented positively here, as well as those who have PM'd me. If I set up a store in the future with these old designs, I'll PM you guys so you can give me your money.

Thanks for a great derby everyone.

I was out of town this week and couldn't submit a design...had a cool idea

MKugs wrote:I was out of town this week and couldn't submit a design...had a cool idea

Tweak it (since people will probably have had enough of fictional nations) and submit it in a future derby, or as a daily.

eHalcyon wrote:
That said, if Youbetchucan makes third (and I really do think it will), I think it would be better if you guys didn't post too many "oh noes!" comments. rg is an amazing artist and his cheery country deserves to print tomorrow as much as the Pica Republic - it probably deserves it more, considering how quickly he rose through ranks!

I posted "oh noes" earlier on this thread, but not on the other shirt threads, since I'm concerned that the Pica Republic shirt that I want won't be made. It wasn't a reflection on the other shirts' merits. It was just my initial reaction when I checked after midnight ("please please please, click ..."). It would be bad etiquette to discuss other shirts on a particular shirt's thread, unless it was somehow related to the subject. Youbetchucan is a good design, and I even voted for it when it first appeared.

eHalcyon, I really respect your good sportsmanship.

Poop - I really wanted this one to win

Oops, double post.

Well, congrats on 4th place! There were so many good entries this week! Even though I am sure you might be slightly disappointed, that is still seriously awesome! And maybe this will show up in the do over derby, where you can be sure of my vote.

And hey, your design from this week is doing great too!

paulkremer wrote:Well, congrats on 4th place! There were so many good entries this week! Even though I am sure you might be slightly disappointed, that is still seriously awesome! And maybe this will show up in the do over derby, where you can be sure of my vote.

And hey, your design from this week is doing great too!

Please add me to your list....my whole dev team was wanting this shirt.

Sigh, so close. I feel like I dated the Pica Republic shirt for a week, getting ready for the big reward at the end, and now it wants to be "just friends".

I just learned about the possibility of a do-over derby, and when it happens, I'm sure a 4th place winner will be in that derby. There has also been an "editor's choice" period in the past where even more entries get printed. So there are multiple chances for Pica Republic to be printed.

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Hey everyone,

Thanks for all the comments and support. I'm honoured to have come in fourth behind three wonderful artists and their equally great designs. And wow, it was a close race.

If I set up a store in the future, I'll PM everyone who has given any indication of interest, be it in the form of a positive comment or PM'd me directly. If you gave me an email, I will email you as well. I'll probably also go through older designs of mine and see if there are others who might want a PM there.

Please keep in mind that, at the earliest, this design will not be available for about two months. Other factors may also cause the date to be pushed back, ranging from the do-over derby to my own laziness in setting up a shop.

Thanks again for the comments, votes and support!

Hey eHalcyon! Add me to that notification list, if you don't mind. Loved your design and was sad that I wouldn't be able to treat myself to it.

Add me to the notify list. I so wanted this shirt!

eHalcyon wrote:Hey everyone,

Thanks for all the comments and support. I'm honoured to have come in fourth behind three wonderful artists and their equally great designs. And wow, it was a close race.

If I set up a store in the future, I'll PM everyone who has given any indication of interest, be it in the form of a positive comment or PM'd me directly. If you gave me an email, I will email you as well. I'll probably also go through older designs of mine and see if there are others who might want a PM there.

Please keep in mind that, at the earliest, this design will not be available for about two months. Other factors may also cause the date to be pushed back, ranging from the do-over derby to my own laziness in setting up a shop.

Thanks again for the comments, votes and support!

Thank you so much for that opportunity.
I'm really looking forward to it! ^^

I really really really really really want this shirt. Like...a lot. So please let me know when you get some printed up. Thanks!!

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Oh me too me too! I'd want a shirt! ^_^ thanks!

Agreed... so clever! Add me to the list, please...I would love one!