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Who is voting for this?

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I don't really understand this shirt... :'(

AdderXYU wrote:Who is voting for this?

I didn't put in a vote because I can't see myself wearing it, but I do like the stream of consciousness. Plus it has a stick figure and I know they are your favorite.

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This shirt makes me feel so good about all the time I put into my designs.

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It's kinda clever, but it doesn't really work as a shirt. Sorry, I could never see myself wearing it.

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Craptastic fog so far. I hope there are some stellar late entries.

jewelwing wrote:This shirt makes me feel so good about all the time I put into my designs.

Haxrox has also made a year's salary off Nevermore, not to mention two of the other worst and least effort woot winners ever.

You should feel stupendous about your effort

AdderXYU wrote:
You should feel stupendous about your effort

I make designs that I like, and hope others like them too. I'm not an artist, but I can do textual stuff. Apparent effort or not, I used what little I know to make the flow of this shirt, and I think it's hilarious.

It's been a literal Godsend to have money from these designs. This past year has been devastating for me and my family, so I had to leave my job to attend to more important matters. That has nothing to do with votes, but all you frustrated commenters seem eager to share your emotional reaction to my success, so here's mine: bittersweet relief. If you want to really address my motives/worth/satisfaction, Alex(Adder), email me at haxrox@gmail.com.

Thanks for the votes and purchases!

-Brian

Geez...you guys are so nasty. It's not my type of shirt, but don't blame the designer for his success. Even if haxrox isn't a tgentry, at least he seems to understand the concept behind the pen tool, adder. I'm gonna vote just to make up for all you people who can't stand the injustice of losing a derby.

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I like the shirt. Is it art? No. Would I wear it? Yes, except for the fact that the huge BACON letters would go right across my belly! Granted, bacon doesn't come from the belly... but still... Bottom line (no pun intended) I like it and would wear it even if it isn't as beautiful/ artistic as so many of the other entries are.

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You get my vote. No cuddly animals, either.

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I voted for this. Why? Because I would seriously wear it.

Homer would wear this shirt but it would say "mmmm, Bacon!"

No it's not an artistic masterpiece but it is clever.

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tehpwnerer wrote:Geez...you guys are so nasty. It's not my type of shirt, but don't blame the designer for his success. Even if haxrox isn't a tgentry, at least he seems to understand the concept behind the pen tool, adder. I'm gonna vote just to make up for all you people who can't stand the injustice of losing a derby.

Is it completely feasible that people can have motivations for disliking something other than jealousy. Sure money is involved, but it's like if the bosses slacker son gets a raise and you do not, even though you work harder than anyone. Is it fair? Not at all! Are you jealous? Not at all! It's about what people deserve.

And even if this doesn't win, it's still bad. Not because anyone is jealous, but because it's not very witty and even less attractive.

AdderXYU wrote:Haxrox has also made a year's salary off Nevermore, not to mention two of the other worst and least effort woot winners ever.

You should feel stupendous about your effort

For this comment alone, I will be giving my vote to Haxrox.

(Haxrox, I rather like your design anyways.)

SavedChristian wrote:For this comment alone, I will be giving my vote to Haxrox.

(Haxrox, I rather like your design anyways.)

yknow, it's funny, the worst shirts always have the most of this sort of comment on them.

Almost makes it seem like the voting here at woot is broken. If only someone would investigate if that was the case.

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Nice man.. I would probably put some bacon salt on it to boot.

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Amazing how everything leads back to bacon! Great design!!!

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I've never laughed so hard at a shirt.woot in my LIFE son.

AdderXYU wrote:yknow, it's funny, the worst shirts always have the most of this sort of comment on them.

Almost makes it seem like the voting here at woot is broken. If only someone would investigate if that was the case.

Blah blah blah. Man, you can whine with the best of them. Investigate what? The fact that this design is in the fog? The voting isn't broken at all. Maybe it's you who are broken, and you need to get a sense of humor. Because that's exactly what this shirt is. Humorous. GMV.

AdderXYU wrote:Who is voting for this?

Finally a visual representation of why I can never get in shape. But I bought bacon salt during the woot off, so celery here I come.
This shirt is awesome.

AdderXYU wrote:Who is voting for this?

Clearly all of Ramy and Seki's alt accounts to throw us off their scent.

Geez, does the tinfoil hat block THAT news, too? Keep up with the times, man and/or woman!

Aquafox87 wrote:Finally a visual representation of why I can never get in shape. But I bought bacon salt during the woot off, so celery here I come.
This shirt is awesome.

Someone will need to let me know if bacon salt actually does make everything taste like bacon.

jewelwing wrote:This shirt makes me feel so good about all the time I put into my designs.

Wow. Snide -and- condescending.
Seriously. Would you say that to someone's face?

You know, you are certainly due your own opinion, but it's the way you say it that counts. Especially when you consider that the woot derbies are essentially popularity contests, driven by votes from the community, you might want to watch what you say.

I hope your comment makes you feel so good about how pompous you sound. I know I won't vote for art that's created with that kind of attitude.

AdderXYU wrote:Haxrox has also made a year's salary off Nevermore, not to mention two of the other worst and least effort woot winners ever.

You should feel stupendous about your effort

Worst and least effort?
Let me ask you something. Those links in your signature, are those your shirts?

"My other shirt is a doublet"?
A flowchart shirt?

Worst and least effort, eh?
*cough*

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All comment-trolling aside. I do like this shirt. I love the concept and I can certainly relate to it.
If I have any constructive criticism for you is that I'd like to see you enlarge the bacon and the eggs a bit and color them. You could even do it sketchily ( a bit outside the lines) to keep with the 'jotting it down' look. The shirt just needs a bit more color to make it pop and you have a couple to spare.

haxrox wrote:I make designs that I like, and hope others like them too. I'm not an artist, but I can do textual stuff. Apparent effort or not, I used what little I know to make the flow of this shirt, and I think it's hilarious.

It's been a literal Godsend to have money from these designs. This past year has been devastating for me and my family, so I had to leave my job to attend to more important matters. That has nothing to do with votes, but all you frustrated commenters seem eager to share your emotional reaction to my success, so here's mine: bittersweet relief. If you want to really address my motives/worth/satisfaction, Alex(Adder), email me at haxrox@gmail.com.

Thanks for the votes and purchases!

-Brian

Sorry it has been such a rough year Brian. I've always been a fan of yours. It has never been any artistic talent but your great ideas that have sold and that is inspiring to the little guys (artistically speaking). I would think Adder, who seems to be at least artistically your peer, would look at you and realize that even he has a chance to make a really funny, really good shirt.

People who spend all their time nitpicking every shirt to get their post count up while having the artistic aptitude of a thimble themselves are AWESOME. Just like this shirt.

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is the whole shirt suppose to be a piece of paper? wheres the 3 hole punch? I like bacon, but this is a no go.

AdderXYU wrote:yknow, it's funny, the worst shirts always have the most of this sort of comment on them.

Well, these are the "worst" shirts by your opinion. You comment on them. And then those sorts of comments are in reply to yours. Quite a logical progression of events, so I don't really see your point here.

I will say that I don't really like this design though. I think the flow is a bit forced, and it kind of bugs me that there the first two points are numbered and then the rest aren't. Sorry, sir Haxrox. But I understand and appreciate that you do what you can do. Congrats on the fog.

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it reminds me of "six degrees of separation to kevin BACON" hehe

and to that guy, I think Adder, who says the voting system is broken.. umm.. I am voting for this because its funny. I was unawares that this site was about "art", and not making good Tshirt designs. so many post things that I would never consider ART (not that I am qualified to make the call), but they still try.


also, the stick figure is great. My only negative thought is it is on white, which is very "meh". but still....


annnywayyysss,, GMV, DESPITE it being art. because it would make a good Tshirt.

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GMV. And while I wouldn't buy it for -me-, if this makes the cut and goes to print, I have a friend in Iraq that will love it. We have ongoing bacon jokes. :D

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I voted because it made me laugh. Despite my vote I am still unsure if I could wear it. The design reaches too low for my liking and the shirts are already a bit snug for me so I would feel weird calling attention to my lower belly like that. Sure I could lose it, but then who would eat the bacon?

To the rest, you people seriously need to GTFO because you all just sound like a bunch of rude SOBs.

iamjessica wrote:I voted because it made me laugh. Despite my vote I am still unsure if I could wear it. The design reaches too low for my liking and the shirts are already a bit snug for me so I would feel weird calling attention to my lower belly like that. Sure I could lose it, but then who would eat the bacon?

To the rest, you people seriously need to GTFO because you all just sound like a bunch of rude SOBs.

Uh, let's keep the name calling to 0 if possible. It's just unnecessary and if you feel like you need to release your anger you can keep in this week's theme by taking up boxing :D

I definitely understand the point the artists are making about this shirt. If I put in hours upon hours of work into a shirt that I would hope to win and then "Joe" here comes along with a seemingly simple idea and design and sweeps the floor I would be disappointed as well.

I would just like to say that the overall goal of the derbies is to make a wearable shirt (with maybe some wit). How much effort one puts into a design is up to the artist and will be fruitless at some points in time. But no one should forget that this is a shirt contest and all that people are looking for is something to wear that expresses him/her self.

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This shirt IS funny -- but it seems that it would be a better comic than a shirt.

Now, mexican jumping beans--- everyone should go vote for that!

When I want art, I go to a gallery. This site is about fun. Don't you all own a variety of t-shirts?

This one is clever, sellable, and most importantly, WEARABLE! It will make people laugh. I will buy it and wear it! GMV

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I've never been one who insisted that the most artistically-involved shirts should always win, but I still don't get why this one is doing so well. The leap from "exercise" to the "eggs are sides" line seems tenuous.

I was sorry to hear that the designer has had a tough time of things lately--lord knows it's tough all over right now--but that's not enough of a reason for me to be down with this one.

Hope you have better luck in the job market, haxrox.

Jackofallgames wrote:Worst and least effort?
Let me ask you something. Those links in your signature, are those your shirts?

"My other shirt is a doublet"?
A flowchart shirt?

Worst and least effort, eh?
*cough*

Agreed

He loves to whine about every shirt but his designs are ... well, you have seen them.

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I love this concept. This is my idea of a "fitness plan". Anyways, who on woot doesn't love bacon?

Thanks for the comments about the design, all. And Discobuscuits, that's high praise.

eHalcyon wrote:I think the flow is a bit forced, and it kind of bugs me that there the first two points are numbered and then the rest aren't.

The first two points are numbered as if the writer got up to point 2, then got distracted. This is pretty much how my school note taking went - write down something, get distracted by a word, follow a rabbit trail of strange ideas and completely miss the lecture.

IndependentVik, I can appreciate not getting the joke. That's humor- it either resonates with you or is discordant. The irony of my situation is that I've had no trouble finding a job in my field, circumstances were such that I just couldn't commit to one, and so my income came from this very unlikely source. But as you affirmed, that has nothing to do with votes, nor should it.

Also, I'm pretty sure the bacon frenzy in the recent woot-off's comments is influencing my thought processes. It's like 6 steps to actual bacon.

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this is hilarious, this is exactly how I distracted from my goals all the time. It's an illustration of procrastination, which is the leading reason I don't use my gym membership. This is perfect for me, but I do see a lot of people really confused and let down because there's not an ounce of visual craftsmanship to it. But it's more artistic than folks are giving it credit.

Good job! Ignore the critics. I hope you win.

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wow, this site has really gone in the phonebooth.

AdderXYU wrote:Haxrox has also made a year's salary off Nevermore, not to mention two of the other worst and least effort woot winners ever.

You should feel stupendous about your effort

Since when was it a crime that he made money off of his shirt designs? Why don't you applaud his/her success?

Oh.... i know why... Adder, you're a jerk. This designer has placed his work up to be voted on and purchased. If s/he wins, s/he won fairly. If you don't like the design (i'm not crazy about it.) don't buy it... and don't vote on it. Even creative critique is understandable... but also understand: there are a ton of folks out there who are making some serious bank on far worse looking mierde.

Since you're in the game for criticizing his/her designs, why don't YOU design something to beat it out of the fog? I don't think you're capable. Even if it doesn't last in the fog, I don't think your design could beat it out.

I hope Harxox makes $3 million off their shirt designs for the year, even if you nor I ever buy one.

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I love the creativity put into this design. And i agree this is how i often took notes in school.

GMV.

[quote postid="3015725" user="catz07b"]it reminds me of "six degrees of separation to kevin BACON" hehe

and to that guy, I think Adder, who says the voting system is broken.. umm.. I am voting for this because its funny. I was unawares that this site was about "art", and not making good Tshirt designs. so many post things that I would never consider ART (not that I am qualified to make the call), but they still try.


Agreeing with you, I was just going to ask who thinks most people come to shirt.woot for "art"? I enjoy many of the artistic designs of edgar and boots and others, but I think there is much more demand for shirts that speak to a wide audience, and those shirts tend to be more simplistic, funny, cute etc.

I vote for designs that make me smile and for designs I think my family or friends would wear. Sometimes that's art and sometimes that's stick figures.

WOW...this week I feel that I am in an alternate woot universe.....how is this in the fog!?

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Very nice shirt design. I'm not voting for it because it's not something I would personally wear but I really think this is hilarious. The thought process shown here resonates with so many people, myself included, and the simple design of the shirt helps to emphasize this simple minded approach to exercise. Well done, keep em comin.

haxrox wrote:The first two points are numbered as if the writer got up to point 2, then got distracted. This is pretty much how my school note taking went - write down something, get distracted by a word, follow a rabbit trail of strange ideas and completely miss the lecture.

In that case, I don't understand why "x-ar-size" is numbered, since it seems like the note-taker was already distracted by that point.

Hope things pick up for you, sir.

a2theharris wrote:this is hilarious, this is exactly how I distracted from my goals all the time. It's an illustration of procrastination, which is the leading reason I don't use my gym membership. This is perfect for me, but I do see a lot of people really confused and let down because there's not an ounce of visual craftsmanship to it. But it's more artistic than folks are giving it credit.

Good job! Ignore the critics. I hope you win.

I think this shows distraction, not procrastination. The latter is a conscious putting-off of work (I do it all the time). With distraction, it's more of an accident (unless you are purposefully looking to be distracted, I suppose). Anyway, it's not a good idea to ignore the critics. Critics provide useful input. It's ok to ignore the people who just bash the design and say nothing useful.

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No tree, birds, reptiles, smiley faces, halftones, paint splatter, et cetera. Simple, light hearted humor.

I'm voting for this. I hope it keeps the cash flowing for you. Good luck.

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I think this is really amusing, and I voted for it BEFORE reading any of the comments.. I saw the right hand side tab of the window screen was tiny, and knew there was a long discussion to follow and I wanted to vote how I felt, and not allow myself to be swayed by others.

But now I will comment. My vote stands, 100%. I would like to know where people earned the privilege to be able to tell the rest of the world what is, and what is not "art". THAT view has been debated for centuries.

No, I do not think that Haxrox spent 10 hours working and re-working this design, as I know other people do on theirs. That is not the point. This site is about selling Tees that the most people want (At least the most amongst the part of the population who, well, populate this site). It is NOT about who worked the hardest, who worked the longest, who has the better art program on their computer, who has the best innate artistic ability, or who has been previously published - or even who has the most friends here.

On the other hand, I certainly do not wish for other people to be discouraged. Usually the ones who spend many hours on their designs DO end up with better, cleaner, more defined and intricate ones, and they should be PROUD of their work. I have seen many many submitted here over the past year plus that I have been here that have been simply stunning.

That is not the point with this entry. Haxrox hit upon something both clever and funny at the same time. But like most humor, not everyone finds it uniformly amusing. It obviously struck a chord with enough people that it has gained so many votes.

Can you compare a stand up comic with a William Shakespeare? Of course not. But sometimes you are not in the mood to sit down with a dusty tome, and simply rather be amused by a Demetri Martin. Life is about having the choice to have both.

I personally find that this designed tickled me the moment I saw it, which is why I voted immediately. I hope it continues to do well.

P.S. Haxrox, on a personal note that has *NOTHING* to do with whether this design earns a vote or not, I understand a little about what you are going through. Right now my dad is terminally ill, and I had to quit my job several months back to help take care of him and my mom. You have all my best wishes that things work out for you the best possibly way that they can. Good luck.

-Syd

(P.P.S. - Your "Nevermore" shirt was one of the earliest Woot shirts my family and I ever bought. We own 3 of them, collectively)

Adder - It is pretty dumb to say that just because a design isn't good, that the artist didn't spend any time on it. I mean, I've done some terrible designs in the past that have taken me a long time only to find its way into my recycle bin. Woot isn't always about putting the best artwork on t-shirts, there's a million other sites that are strictly that. But I digress because this will totally contradict my next point.

Everyone else - Adder won't change. Debating him is pointless. Every forum on the internet has people like Adder. Adder is predictable and common, yet infamous because of inevitable responses he gets. You should stop getting worked up, take it as common knowledge, and move along.

Oh and Bryan - Congrats on the fog. Keep it up.

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This is an this is for people with short attention span shirt. Don't have to have a disorder to wear this shirt. But it is pretty funny. I voted for it, because I probably said stuff like that as a kid, and I still do. -_-

AdderXYU wrote:Is it completely feasible that people can have motivations for disliking something other than jealousy. Sure money is involved, but it's like if the bosses slacker son gets a raise and you do not, even though you work harder than anyone. Is it fair? Not at all! Are you jealous? Not at all! It's about what people deserve.

And even if this doesn't win, it's still bad. Not because anyone is jealous, but because it's not very witty and even less attractive.

It is a democracy and life isn't fair. I like both the artistic and text whatever appeals to me the most. Look I'm sure a lot of artist feel the same way, tons of people think that abstract isn't always considered art, but art is just what you think is pleasing to look at. Am I right? I mean text can be art, just not considered the most unique or creative are though that is generally though it can be. In any government structure life isn't fair. So Not that I'm saying your comments aren't reasonable, I'm just saying sometimes people aren't going to like what is the best, its an opinion. One of my favorite quotes and I repeat it often when I see it applicable. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

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Really funny...but i don't do white (or black) ever. Too spill-prone for white and too many light-colored animals for black. Still really like the shirt though.

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This design made me laugh for a good few seconds, even though i despise bacon, (yet, I'm a wooter?!?!) If it was executed a little better I would vote for it.

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I find this shirt hilarious and I would love to wear it while jogging. Maybe it's not horribly artsy, but I don't like wearing shirts I can't understand just because they look pretty. Good job on the witty text! GMV!

AdderXYU wrote:yknow, it's funny, the worst shirts always have the most of this sort of comment on them.

Almost makes it seem like the voting here at woot is broken. If only someone would investigate if that was the case.

y'know... the voting is always broken from the other perspective.

You said the shirt was not very witty.... well, there are enough folks who disagree with you that put it into the fog. Thus, you're wrong. Just because a group of folks doesn't laugh at the tongue in cheek joke, doesn't mean it isn't funny to others or doesn't have merit.

but maybe you're right. voting is broken. Maybe we should have them do a recount... I think Florida hangs in the balance of this shirt's future.

It's as if your entire world perspective hangs in the balance. Or maybe your highly lauded opinion of what "acceptable design standards" is the end-all-be-all of what is/is not good design.

Adder... it's a fornicating shirt. give it a rest dude!

AdderXYU wrote:yknow, it's funny, the worst shirts always have the most of this sort of comment on them.

Almost makes it seem like the voting here at woot is broken. If only someone would investigate if that was the case.

Listen Adder, if there was a line drawn for the sake of design and aesthetics I'd be on your side. But clearly there's a trend here; the majority of voters just want cute and endearing shirts. Nothing we say's going to change their minds. So as fun as it is to be snarky over whatever the animal-of-the-week is (and it *is* fun), it's...just not worth the frustration.

As for the conspiracy theories, I just don't buy them. It's more likely to me that the majority of woot's users are suburban moms, or high schoolers, or people who really, *really* like all things kawaii. Can't beat those people I'm afraid, not when they're the ones buying the shirts.

I love the shirt. dont think i would wear it, though. i'd have a poster or a desktop wallpaper of it though...

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Yikes! Who knew t-shirts would elicit such strong emotions?!?!?

Art? These are t-shirts, folks. Art works to sell some shirts, as do clever ideas, however implemented. (Sales speak louder than moaning, and Nevermore obviously resonated with people enough to separate them from their hard earned cash--including me.)

Of all the entries this week, this is the only one that comes close to getting my vote...Maybe it doesn't knock it out of the park, but it's clever and it involves bacon--a woot perennial favorite.

goodedesign wrote:
Adder... it's a fornicating shirt. give it a rest dude!

It's not just a shirt, though. Not really.

Yes, it's a gigantic popularity contest, but when the prize is $1,000 and some more where that came from if the shirt can stick around, I'd probably get upset, too, regardless of whether or not it's the culture of the site.

And this is coming from someone who has defended the culture of the site for the past month or two.

I think art and concept should be separated in thought. This is a good concept, if a little contrived, that doesn't offer much in the way of illustration or design from that standpoint. Had it not been on white (although I understand why it is), I'd possibly vote for it, but even then, this seems like something I'd see on a rack at like JC Penney's or Wal-Mart.

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I saw just the thumbnail and lmao!! so I voted for it.. Now that I opened it, its even funnier.. I would buy 3 if this shirt came up and wear them proudly at the same time

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Whoops, I didn't know we were only supposed to vote for what is considered "art" or the design the took the longest to make.

I apologize for voting for designs that I would actually buy.


Seriously, just because you spend a thousand years working on something doesn't mean that you'll end up having the best creation, or even a good one.

People want what people want.

You would NOT be saying the same thing if you made one of your stellar "art" designs in a matter of minutes and it became the foundation for an empire.



Oh, and don't act like Admiral Ackbar gave you insight on how the voting process works.
I've bought more at shirt.woot than I have at woot and sellout.woot combined, and I could care less who made the design.

I buy what I want, not what you want.

AdderXYU wrote:
Almost makes it seem like the voting here at woot is broken. If only someone would investigate if that was the case.

I actually i agree with this. They should implement a dynamic check as in if you vote for a shirt that wins and you don't buy it, your account loses a tenth of a vote, minimum to .01. If a derby shirt wins and you actually buy it, your account gains half a vote to a max of 5.

Down with the upvoters of stupid shirts!

(edit: this shirt GMV, because it would make an ironic gym shirt =P )

deebaser wrote:I actually i agree with this. They should implement a dynamic check as in if you vote for a shirt that wins and you don't buy it, your account loses a tenth of a vote, minimum to .01. If a derby shirt wins and you actually buy it, your account gains half a vote to a max of 5.

Down with the upvoters of stupid shirts!

(edit: this shirt GMV, because it would make an ironic gym shirt =P )

I too am one who agrees with this. There needs to be some justification for this. It is obvious that the people who vote for ramy's shirts don't buy them. If we remember the "A is for Atlas" vs. the "Sun Wukong" shirts, ramy's would've gotten a lot more vote than Tgenty's shirt if it did't have to be resubmitted, yet the sun wukong shirt is higher on the reckoning chart. We need to hold people accountable for this. People need to vote on what they would buy, not what is cute/attractive/cool looking. Take charge woot!

felloffthebus wrote:I too am one who agrees with this. There needs to be some justification for this. It is obvious that the people who vote for ramy's shirts don't buy them. If we remember the "A is for Atlas" vs. the "Sun Wukong" shirts, ramy's would've gotten a lot more vote than Tgenty's shirt if it did't have to be resubmitted, yet the sun wukong shirt is higher on the reckoning chart. We need to hold people accountable for this. People need to vote on what they would buy, not what is cute/attractive/cool looking. Take charge woot!

This system is not screwed up. So what? Two people figure out what is currently popular with a site's audience. Do we deride Tiger Woods for being too good and blame the game? Do we cry foul when A-rod or Barry Bonds hit's a thousand home runs? Oh wait that's a bad example. I digress. Seriously, if Woot wasn't making bank on these so called unjustly "popular" shirts, then they would change the system. It's for Woot's benefit not the artists' benefit that there's voting at all. My vote: get over it and put your pen where your mouth is. If you want to get righteous about it, then consider that some designers really loathe design contests because they see it as unethical.

You are essentially gambling by participating in this system. Casino odds suck way more but no one but wing-nuts in Utah are declaring Vegas get's shut down right?

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Hmm, I guess I'm the only nerd who checks digg... Bacon = Votes is definitely not a new phenomenon... People just really like bacon, I guess.

felloffthebus wrote:I too am one who agrees with this. There needs to be some justification for this. It is obvious that the people who vote for ramy's shirts don't buy them. If we remember the "A is for Atlas" vs. the "Sun Wukong" shirts, ramy's would've gotten a lot more vote than Tgenty's shirt if it did't have to be resubmitted, yet the sun wukong shirt is higher on the reckoning chart. We need to hold people accountable for this. People need to vote on what they would buy, not what is cute/attractive/cool looking. Take charge woot!

That proves nothing at all. Only one single derby shirt in the history of shirt.woot has sold LESS than the number of votes it received. All that it shows is that the voting demographic is a small subset of the purchasing demographic, and that the former is not always an accurate representation of the latter.

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Yes! Back in the fog!

I'd love to see this win because it's different than all of the regular winning stuff we see allllll the time, and I'd wear it.

It's so simple, and stupid, I hate thinking about the time I put into my designs... :P

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I wouldn't buy this, because it's white, but I laughed SO HARD when I saw this shirt. I think it's hilarious.

But me and white shirts do not go together! :D

eHalcyon wrote:That proves nothing at all. Only one single derby shirt in the history of shirt.woot has sold LESS than the number of votes it received. All that it shows is that the voting demographic is a small subset of the purchasing demographic, and that the former is not always an accurate representation of the latter.

Thanks for saying this in a way I never would have been able to pull off.

HeartlineTwist wrote:Thanks for saying this in a way I never would have been able to pull off.

I cant believe this in the fog. Who would really where this as a shirt? Sure the concept is a little funny....but to wear?

ringod30 wrote:I cant believe this in the fog. Who would really where this as a shirt? Sure the concept is a little funny....but to wear?

welcome to shirt.woot? ahuhu

:D

Part of me is frustrated at how the whole art/sales/meaning of life discussion elicits such strong emotion in me, but on the other hand this is a really interesting forum to read diverse views. It's kind of humbling to look at the number of people on woot and realize that statistically, there are people here who disagree with my views and are also much smarter than I am.

rgreen454ss wrote:I would buy 3 if this shirt came up and wear them proudly at the same time

That's hilarious.

HeartlineTwist wrote:this seems like something I'd see on a rack at like JC Penney's or Wal-Mart.

I've seen this a couple times, and at least one artist left for a bit because of woot's "wal-mart mentality". So now when I go to Wal-Mart I look through the shirts. They have a lot of intricate skully, bird-laden fancy designs now, and honestly, I don't think I have the chops to even design for Wal-Mart.

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love the shirt, love bacon, don't listen to the haters, the design is fabulous!

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Not really a great "design" and yet, it is, because it looks so good on the shirt and very much like an actual note from someone's notebook. I don't think I would buy and wear this, but good job anyway. Neat idea and "wordplay".

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Haxrox's shirts sell. People vote for them. People like them. I think that speaks for itself. Whomever says he has the worst shirt designs should rethink that statement.

Am I the only one who thinks this tee is basically a reference to xkcd? He hasn't done the exact joke before, but it seems like exactly the sort of thing that would appear on it, especially in an earlier comic. The title "My Problem" and the mention of bacon also remind me of xkcd. It's just too eerie to be a coincidence.

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I don't think shirts have to have fancy artwork to win a Derby. I would totally buy this!

TexasDex wrote:Am I the only one who thinks this tee is basically a reference to xkcd? He hasn't done the exact joke before, but it seems like exactly the sort of thing that would appear on it, especially in an earlier comic. The title "My Problem" and the mention of bacon also remind me of xkcd. It's just too eerie to be a coincidence.

It's possible that this was inspired by something like that. I think it's just an indication that a lot of people think bacon is awesome! *remembers bacon in the refrigerator*

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Well, it's not very kosher, but that's why God invented an almost equally delicious alternative: Turkey Bacon!

You have officially received more votes from me than John McCain.

Haxrox 2012?

Oh and to all you haters: Angry, jealous, snide, hostile remarks are the most sincere form of flattery, so you have my thanks for complimenting this awesome shirt with me. I look forward to wearing this proudly.

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Great shirt.

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I can see how this would be funny to people, but I can't imagine wanting to wear it as a shirt. I like it better than the pirate one though, so good luck. :p

This is a terrible shirt.

Ok, so you decided to go with a little humor and fell flat on your face. Not only that, but notebook writing on a shirt? That's completely unwearable on a shirt....

Absolutely no effort went into this entry, and it's very apparent.

SydneyB wrote:You have all my best wishes that things work out for you the best possibly way that they can. Good luck.

Thanks so much, sydney. I left you a PM.

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OFF TOPIC

TexasDex wrote:Am I the only one who thinks this tee is basically a reference to xkcd?

I do love xkcd, and many of Randall's readers share his practice of and interest in wordplay (and math, engineering, etc.) However, the bacon thing was inspired by the woot-off, and I've filled notebooks with similar tmesis mangling, ambigrams, puns, and other inane word ideas long before discovering the more skilled practitioner at xkcd.

deebaser wrote:I actually i agree with this. They should implement a dynamic check as in if you vote for a shirt that wins and you don't buy it, your account loses a tenth of a vote, minimum to .01. If a derby shirt wins and you actually buy it, your account gains half a vote to a max of 5.

Down with the upvoters of stupid shirts!

(edit: this shirt GMV, because it would make an ironic gym shirt =P )

While I admire you want to fix a voting system to have some accountability I personally would hate to have a system like this. I feel like I was originally attracted to shirt.woot.com because of my ability to vote on designs and track their progress ala american idol style which apparently appeal so the vast majority of american consumers. The increase of site traffic due to voting is probably a huge boost for woot. Also I like to vote on around 5 entries a derby If three of those five somehow made it to print I'd hate to think that I would be obliged to fork over $30-$45 dollars depending on when I made it back to the site. I do occasionally buy designs but I feel I purchase more frequently because the voting gets me interested. I never miss out on a random shirt opportunity and I only seem to find those cause i'm habitually tracking derby standings and looking at the new designs. I happen to like the kawaii designs but I feel they might phase themselves out like any trend. After owning three bunny shirts I doubt people unless bunny obsessed will buy more. That being said all that will happen is the next trend will move in. Maybe we're already in the midst of a blooming bacon trend, let the consumers decide and if you don't like it don't buy it and encourage the designers you do like to print somewhere else after the hold time. But that's just my two cents.

haxrox wrote:I do love xkcd, and many of Randall's readers share his practice of and interest in wordplay (and math, engineering, etc.) However, the bacon thing was inspired by the woot-off, and I've filled notebooks with similar tmesis mangling, ambigrams, puns, and other inane word ideas long before discovering the more skilled practitioner at xkcd.

So being a reference to the Wootoff does that not count as a woot reference....Therefore disqualifying this entry as a valid submission?

AdderXYU wrote: Almost makes it seem like the voting here at woot is broken. If only someone would investigate if that was the case.

I am surprised that you have yet to break out a 'groundlings' reference throughout all of this.

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white and too much writing, no can do here. sorry.

AdderXYU wrote:Haxrox has also made a year's salary off Nevermore

Where do you work, Adder? McDonald's?

thank goodness this has dropped out of the fog

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a lot of people seem to dislike this shirt, but yet it's still in the fog? especially when plenty of clever zombie shirts below (see: The Human Race - http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=28362) can't seem to get a break?

I think this shirt is positively hilarious and clever. It reminds me of myself. But then again, I would never work as a shirt (and this design idea isn't something I, or most people, would wear)

strongworm wrote:a lot of people seem to dislike this shirt, but yet it's still in the fog? ..... But then again, I would never work as a shirt (and this design idea isn't something I, or most people, would wear)

A lot of Vocal people dislike it. That happens to front runners frequently. But there are silent people voting for it regardless.

It's funny, but seems like such a low self-esteem shirt to me. Must be a boy thing.

mjc613 wrote:

It's funny, but seems like such a low self-esteem shirt to me. Must be a boy thing.

It's because they mention bacon. We boys do love our bacon...

Why do you think we use it as a topping? Meat makes everything better - including meat!

mmm... bacon cheeseburger... *drool*

brfatal wrote:This is a terrible shirt.

Ok, so you decided to go with a little humor and fell flat on your face. Not only that, but notebook writing on a shirt? That's completely unwearable on a shirt....

Absolutely no effort went into this entry, and it's very apparent.

ZOMG!!! You are so CooooOOOoOooOool. Oh and more than 700 people would disagree with you. You can make opinions for yourself but don't put words in the mouths of everyone else.

This is sad.

Its not that I would like to badmouth a designer, but if this is all the better you can do... I fell sorry for you. Take some pride in your work. The idea was funny... so do something with it. To some of us it's more than a quick buck. Respect that.

I am astounded that there are 700+ people willing to pay money for this. Ah well.

HeartlineTwist wrote:Yes, it's a gigantic popularity contest, but when the prize is $1,000 and some more where that came from if the shirt can stick around, I'd probably get upset, too, regardless of whether or not it's the culture of the site.

Here, I agree... It is a popularity contest. But it seems that people believe that art shirts are popular. But, at the end of the day, it is still only a Tee-Shirt. This is not the mona lisa (which has been printed on more Tee-Shirts than this will ever be). This will likely never hang in the louvre nor the MoMa, but it will likely hang in someone's closet. Closets are an extension of today's museum of modern art.

If Pablo Picasso designed a shirt (but didn't put his name on it), many of you wouldn't vote for it or buy it... however if he signed it, it would be in the fog as a certain winner.

I would like to see a derby where people can submit designs, but they are not attributed to any designer until AFTER the derby is closed.

lkackman wrote:This is sad.

Its not that I would like to badmouth a designer, but if this is all the better you can do... I fell sorry for you. Take some pride in your work. The idea was funny... so do something with it. To some of us it's more than a quick buck. Respect that.

I am astounded that there are 700+ people willing to pay money for this. Ah well.

If the designer makes a quick buck, who cares? People act as if there is something wrong with designing something that will sell MORE. There is no crime in looking for a profitable niche and filling it. It's not like the designer is controlling the votes.

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I have no idea why people are voting for this shirt.

goodedesign wrote:If the designer makes a quick buck, who cares? People act as if there is something wrong with designing something that will sell MORE. There is no crime in looking for a profitable niche and filling it. It's not like the designer is controlling the votes.

obviously some of us care.

jordoharpo wrote:I have no idea why people are voting for this shirt.

Because this seriously is my exercise regimen. I eat four strips every morning at a minimum. (If you're wondering my total cholesterol is 124.)

I need to own three of these.

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This would be amusing if I were 3 years old, which seems to be the maturity of the average wooter today. The top shirts have really, really, gone to garbage in the last couple months.

AdderXYU wrote:Who is voting for this?

Amen. I don't get it. I hate shirts with all this writing, and it doesn't even cross over into shirt form well. Good idea, really bad shirt.

BACON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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bahahhaha

i would totally buy one this is hilarious

goodedesign wrote:Here, I agree... It is a popularity contest. But it seems that people believe that art shirts are popular. But, at the end of the day, it is still only a Tee-Shirt. This is not the mona lisa (which has been printed on more Tee-Shirts than this will ever be). This will likely never hang in the louvre nor the MoMa, but it will likely hang in someone's closet. Closets are an extension of today's museum of modern art.

If Pablo Picasso designed a shirt (but didn't put his name on it), many of you wouldn't vote for it or buy it... however if he signed it, it would be in the fog as a certain winner.

I would like to see a derby where people can submit designs, but they are not attributed to any designer until AFTER the derby is closed.

The "some motivation required" shirt that's never left the fog since day one is designed by someone who's never had a design printed before...

There may be popularity and politics involved, but some people make good shirts. Some of those people happen to do it more frequently than others.

As for this particular shirt, I love it. It's so simple I could have done it and I happen to find it hilarious because my thought process works like that and I like bacon. The only thing I think could make it better is if it didn't have the notebook lines but that's minor.

I also think it's odd that people are complaining about effort too. Yes, effort put into a good design should be rewarded. This isn't a "draw the prettiest design" contest though. It's a "draw the thing people want on a shirt" contest. Sometimes that's pretty and requires effort, other times it just requires something simple and the right idea. I personally like my shirts simple enough that it doesn't take 5 minutes of staring/reading/appreciating.

Wow. You guys are bitter.

Wow, lots of comments. I don't own this thread or anything, but thanks for being mostly civil, and remembering that personal attacks are a self-satisfying reaction and aren't persuasive.

lkackman wrote:To some of us it's more than a quick buck. Respect that.

Like most designers here, I'm some random guy submitting a design that I think is cool, not a professional villainous artist who's certain his design will win and swindle the masses. In my mind, this design looks finished and is bettered by this style. I'm glad artists' motives are important to you, so for what it's worth, my graphical shortcomings are due to ineptitude or difference in taste, not depravity.

KaylaJ wrote:obviously some of us care.

only because it isn't you making the buck. if you have a great idea executed quickly, that isn't laziness, it's efficiency. that's how successful people operate.

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I hope this gets to print :D

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I like it, but It's really big on the shirt. Maybe make it smaller. 10" vertical max maybe?

dsatele wrote:only because it isn't you making the buck. if you have a great idea executed quickly, that isn't laziness, it's efficiency. that's how successful people operate.

i'm not an artist so obviously i wouldn't be making a buck either way. nor did i ever say anything about efficiency.

anything else you'd like to get wrong?

Jackofallgames wrote:Worst and least effort?
Let me ask you something. Those links in your signature, are those your shirts?

"My other shirt is a doublet"?
A flowchart shirt?

Worst and least effort, eh?
*cough*

This. For all his complaining about lack of art, the shirts on his site are even worse than the effortless cutesy foods with faces shirts here. I think I hear the pot calling the kettle black.

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are you kidding me? this shirt is hilarious!!! :D

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are you kidding me? this shirt is hilarious!!! :D

tehpwnerer wrote:Geez...you guys are so nasty. It's not my type of shirt, but don't blame the designer for his success. Even if haxrox isn't a tgentry, at least he seems to understand the concept behind the pen tool, adder. I'm gonna vote just to make up for all you people who can't stand the injustice of losing a derby.

seriously. if you don't have something nice to say then shut the eff up

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I would love to have this as a shirt to wear to the gym. GMV

Jackofallgames wrote:Worst and least effort?
Let me ask you something. Those links in your signature, are those your shirts?

"My other shirt is a doublet"?
A flowchart shirt?

Worst and least effort, eh?
*cough*

ahuhu awesome

AdderXYU wrote:Haxrox has also made a year's salary off Nevermore, not to mention two of the other worst and least effort woot winners ever.

You should feel stupendous about your effort

wow. you're a some dude's uncle.

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A lot of the responses to this shirt design have been angry because it is not "art" and there was no time put into it.
Well let me remind these people that the people who want to buy shirts, want to buy something that they will enjoy wearing around. This is not an art competition; it is an online apparel store. I (along with about 900 or more other people) find this to be something that I would enjoy wearing. I am not framing this and treating it like the Mona Lisa because it is not (although the issue of what constitutes something as "artwork" is not something I want to debate).
Don't be so sour when a shirt you like doesn't get enough votes to get printed that you make nasty remarks about other people's work. No other design deserves to be printed anymore than this one or the one next to it. It all depends on what people want, and a lot of people want this, myself included, but I'm not writing mean things about the other shirts that don't appeal to me.
Think about that.

lkackman wrote:This is sad.

Its not that I would like to badmouth a designer, but if this is all the better you can do... I fell sorry for you. Take some pride in your work. The idea was funny... so do something with it. To some of us it's more than a quick buck. Respect that.

I am astounded that there are 700+ people willing to pay money for this. Ah well.

You know, I just don't get it. I'm not new to the internet or anything so I don't consider myself naive, but I have to ask myself, why does the anonymity of the net give people the nads to say such things?

I can only assume that if all the woot submitters were together in a room, in person, that you wouldn't walk up to Haxrox and essentially say, "Wow. You suck. I feel sorry for you." So why do it in the comments section of his shirt submission that he is obviously going to be reading?

I know. I shouldn't be surprised. Constructive criticism is -way- too hard. Why should you have to strain and think of how to tell someone how they could improve on their shirt, in your opinion? It's much easier to just belittle them and then hopefully they'll never post a submission again, right? Narrow the field, so to speak?

Or, maybe it's just a case of some designers seeing one too many "I love your design! It's teh awesomemest!!!111!!" in their own comments and it's given them an inflated ego.

Either way, perhaps, instead of wasting effort trying to belittle someone's potentially derby-winning work, you should
be considering how you can make your next submission be a winner.

Good luck.

Jackofallgames wrote:You know, I just don't get it. I'm not new to the internet or anything so I don't consider myself naive, but I have to ask myself, why does the anonymity of the net give people the nads to say such things?

I can only assume that if all the woot submitters were together in a room, in person, that you wouldn't walk up to Haxrox and essentially say, "Wow. You suck. I feel sorry for you." So why do it in the comments section of his shirt submission that he is obviously going to be reading?

I have proven this in a trial! Last term for school I thought I would ease the communication process for my class groups by making private forums. Two out of the three groups suffered from some kind of out of character, online Zippy, the laziest elf slap fest. These people barely spoke in live group meetings, but they had the digital cajones to berate each other online.

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It's unfortunate that this one is getting so much attention simply because it has the word "bacon" in it.

I just don't see myself (or anyone) wearing this one... especially at the size it's proposed to be printed.

bFusion wrote:It's unfortunate that this one is getting so much attention simply because it has the word "bacon" in it.

I just don't see myself (or anyone) wearing this one... especially at the size it's proposed to be printed.

What puzzles me is no Woot lore/references is supposed to be in these entries. The creator stated this was a reference to Woot offs, and yet moderators have yet to reject it. It may get all these votes, but I guarantee it doesnt sell out.

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Woot(!) has text derbies so rarely, I'm glad to see punmaster Hax do well in them. :-)

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I would wear this shirt everywhere it mirrors my sideways sense of humor so well. My shapely significant other and I go to the gym a lot and do have fittness plans... I'll have to buy 2! (I know for a fact she would laugh and love this shirt too!)

I loved the nevermore shirt; I was absolutley awed with your text-work. It would be an absolute crime if any negative comments cramped your style. Woot would be lesser for it in my opinion

melissah12 wrote:I love this concept. This is my idea of a "fitness plan". Anyways, who on woot doesn't love bacon?

the vegetarians [like me] on woot dont like bacon...however, if this shirt had a vegetarian substitute alternative..... ;DD

i would be all over it.

this reminds me of yesterday, i was doing standardized testing at school: writing. i was doing some brainstorming and making an outline when i noticed my history teachers funny new mustache...so i drew a picture of him and his funny mustache and then giggled at it...

my english teacher walked by and saw it and laughed at me. ;]]

random story, sorry. hehe. lets all get along here guys.

AdderXYU wrote:Who is voting for this?

Everyone

a2theharris wrote:This system is not screwed up. So what? Two people figure out what is currently popular with a site's audience. Do ...Vegas get's shut down right?

Wait, quiet you! Wooters are not ready for the truth...


IT'S A BUSINESS, WHICH FOLLOWS A SIMPLE FORMULA...

MAKING TRILLIONS THEN CONTINUE,
LOSING/MAKING NOTHING THEN CHANGE THE PLAN.

You don't run the site, so if you feel that the rules are unjust and your complaints aren't being addressed, then take your designs elsewhere - that is if you can. Some like to criticize without the actual experience of shirt design to validate their arguments/complaints...

no one in particular, of course.

KaylaJ wrote:obviously some of us care.

apparently. many posts for no reason. it seems those that Adder believes that it's wrong to make above a certain amount per year. That's called socialism, isn't it?

DavidShenoda wrote:
IT'S A BUSINESS, WHICH FOLLOWS A SIMPLE FORMULA...

MAKING TRILLIONS THEN CONTINUE,
LOSING/MAKING NOTHING THEN CHANGE THE PLAN.

Woot's Business Plan in BASIC (albeit, I don't remember syntax...shame on me)

10 MAKE MONEY
20 GOTO 10

Edit: Code tags don't work

I (Original content not provided.) at finding the edit button...ignore.

(This one's for you databit...if you read it l0l)

Shenorock wrote:Craptastic fog so far. I hope there are some stellar late entries.

Agreed & doesn't look like there were any. The derby thing has been kind of down hill for a while now. I mean, don't get me wrong, grats for being in the top 4, but yeah, not a fan at all...

KaylaJ wrote:i'm not an artist so obviously i wouldn't be making a buck either way. nor did i ever say anything about efficiency.

anything else you'd like to get wrong?

i didn't get anything wrong. obviously you never said anything about efficiency - you implied in your response that some of you 'care' about the artistic quality of the shirts here. i merely pointed out that what you people were doing isn't 'caring', it is hating. there's a big difference.

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Just doesn't work as a shirt. Kind of funny, but it really feels forced.

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all you lameos out there...how can you seriously prefer a "thats what she said" shirt over this?? this shirt is hilarious!

"thats what she said" yes is funny...but not on a Woot shirt. and its cliche. this is origional.

GMV!!!

fablefire wrote:I have proven this in a trial! Last term for school I thought I would ease the communication process for my class groups by making private forums. Two out of the three groups suffered from some kind of out of character, online Zippy, the laziest elf slap fest. These people barely spoke in live group meetings, but they had the digital cajones to berate each other online.

interesting, fablefire. oh the wonders of psychology huh?

skinplayer wrote:all you lameos out there...how can you seriously prefer a "thats what she said" shirt over this?? this shirt is hilarious!

"thats what she said" yes is funny...but not on a Woot shirt. and its cliche. this is origional.

GMV!!!

ahuhu andre. you said "lameo" hahaha

skinplayer wrote:all you lameos out there...how can you seriously prefer a "thats what she said" shirt over this?? this shirt is hilarious!

"thats what she said" yes is funny...but not on a Woot shirt. and its cliche. this is origional.

GMV!!!

I agree! Has my vote!

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I think the shirt rocks and if it were made into a shirt I would sooooo buy it. I'd wear it to the gym and my personal trainer sessions.

dsatele wrote:i didn't get anything wrong. obviously you never said anything about efficiency - you implied in your response that some of you 'care' about the artistic quality of the shirts here. i merely pointed out that what you people were doing isn't 'caring', it is hating. there's a big difference.

no, you implied its what i meant. if i meant it, i'll say so, esp considering hate is one hell of a strong word.

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I love this design.

Wearing a damn t-shirt isn't about art anyways, it's about what I want to wear.

I hear a lot of the same arguments in the webcomic areas, that those who just do a humor comic are not real artists, and should not be appreciated for any of their work. The people who tend to make those comments are those who, in the end, are unable to sell their product!

Rather than blast this guy because you think his designs are no good, learn from the fact that his designs SELL. Make your designs wittier, more interesting, and fun. I hope this shirt wins in the derby, because I want to buy it.

Personally I have passed over quite a few 'artistic' designs because they were boring or pretentious... and not even a little bit clever.

Just.. get over yourselves. Clearly people want to buy this shirt; clearly we are all a bunch of uneducated monkeys with no sense of taste. Course, taste is all subjective.. if you don't like the design then move on, but stop berating the designer just because he made something that will sell. The whole point of the Woot derby is to make a shirt that will sell.. not one that has certain artistic merit. You lose, Hax here wins.

inhales sharply and creates suction to be a loser, huh? Stop whining about it, design shirt that appeals to the average customer on Woot, or stop designing here.

AdderXYU wrote:Who voted for this?

nrarmen wrote:Uh, I definitely understand the point the artists are making about this shirt. If I put in hours upon hours of work into a shirt that I would hope to win and then "Joe" here comes along with a seemingly simple idea and design and sweeps the floor I would be disappointed as well.

jewelwing wrote:This shirt makes me feel so good about all the time I put into my designs.

Just because someone puts time and effort into their work doesn't mean it's any good, nor does it make it salable. I don't understand why people are complaining about the 'artistic value' of the designs. Correct me if I'm wrong, but shirt.woot does sell shirts and not prints? In terms of Tshirts, it's all about making something that people will enjoy enough to the point of coughing up their dough. In the end, it doesn't matter how much effort and detail you put into your design. If others don't like it, they're not gonna buy it, simple as that.

Clearly a lot of the people posting and complaining on here have never held an artistic job within a company. To get sales, it ain't about what YOU think is good, but what the client likes. If they want a rainbow gradient background with white text that's what they're going to pay for. And in the end thats exactly what sways the vote, what people will pay for. Don't like it, submit your shirts elsewhere like on cafepress or print them yourself.

And the personal attacks? Tastless and saddening really. If you have an issue with how much Haxrox made with the Nevermore shirt, then make a design that appeals to a wider audience. I personally, didn't like that shirt and didn't buy it, but I realize that others have different tastes and what may not appeal to me(or you) may appeal to others. Your opinions aren't the only ones in the world, nor are they right or wrong, they just are. Shocking, I know. Take a deep breath and go outside or something. There's more to life that the shirt.woot derby.

With that said, I hope it prints cause that 'BACON' text would be sexy across my pregnant belly. ;) I'm gonna wear this shirt to IHOP.

AdderXYU wrote:Haxrox has also made a year's salary off Nevermore, not to mention two of the other worst and least effort woot winners ever.

You should feel stupendous about your effort

I must say, this shirt is much more attractive and well-done than most of the shirts on your page. I wouldn't bash on you, but your bashing on Haxrox's designs invalidates any hesitance. It's not the most artistic shirt ever, no, and may not even be terribly clever or funny. But I find it a pretty funny shirt, very well executed, and something I might actually wear, unlike any of your shirts I saw. So, as they say...put up or shut up.

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I NEED this shirt...and I don't even eat p0rk. 12 years p0rk free..love this shirt.

AdderXYU wrote:yknow, it's funny, the worst shirts always have the most of this sort of comment on them.

Almost makes it seem like the voting here at woot is broken. If only someone would investigate if that was the case.

Adder, at best, it is possible your mistake might be assuming a filter of like-mindedness when reviewing these shirt designs. While the people who work hard on their submissions would, potentially, be more likely to vote for shirts displaying advanced technical difficulty, I would wager the vast majority of shirt.woot visits are made by people looking for a design they enjoy, or for a bit of humor, regardless of the effort it took to render it.

At worst (and the energy with which you rail against this design seems to be more indicative of this explanation), seeing Haxrox has tapped into something more important than (your definition of) effort, it is hard to believe your motives are not those of jealousy and a false sense of righteousness. Your analogy to an office situation where the boss’s child gets a raise is particularly illogical, so allow me to tweak it for you a little bit: You work much harder and produce products that cause people to often display apathy. The boss’s son produces products the public likes and with considerably less effort. The public votes on who gets a raise and selects the person creating things they enjoy. Are you still going to be upset? The fact you so perverted the analogy indicates to me you understand your disapproval is dubious in motivation, so why not accept your thoughts and opinions do not automatically qualify as truth?

Good luck on your future designs.

This is by far the best one of the derby! So original! grrr... I want to buy it!

You, sir, were robbed.

haxrox wrote:I make designs that I like, and hope others like them too. I'm not an artist, but I can do textual stuff. Apparent effort or not, I used what little I know to make the flow of this shirt, and I think it's hilarious.

It's been a literal Godsend to have money from these designs. This past year has been devastating for me and my family, so I had to leave my job to attend to more important matters. That has nothing to do with votes, but all you frustrated commenters seem eager to share your emotional reaction to my success, so here's mine: bittersweet relief. If you want to really address my motives/worth/satisfaction, Alex(Adder), email me at haxrox@gmail.com.

Thanks for the votes and purchases!

-Brian

I think the shirt is great. I would love to purchase one and think all the negative banter is shadowed by some folks jealousy.

Thanks Brian!

Afro

afrodesyak wrote:I think the shirt is great. I would love to purchase one and think all the negative banter is shadowed by some folks jealousy.

Thanks Brian!

Afro

Oh Yeah....This Shirt is Eggcellent!

afrodesyak wrote:Oh Yeah....This Shirt is Eggcellent!

And I'm Bacon you to make this available...FOR PURCHASING PLEASE!

nrarmen wrote:I voted for this. Why? Because I would seriously wear it.

I think this has been my favorite (potential) woot shirt... too bad it didn't make it. I need this workout shirt!

my problem

Come on Woot! Where's the bacon?