Derby #270: Propaganda...FOR SCIENCE!
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aerc712


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There may have been a very dignified giggle-snort when I saw this.

goldenthorn


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From what style of classic propaganda posters does this draw inspiration?

elaine51sherman


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Miniature dinosaurs! The perfect apartment pet.

roussie


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Not too far from the truth. Apparently Japan is set to clone a woolly mammoth.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/03/14/the-woolly-mammoths-return-scientists-plan-to-clone-extinct-creature/

aerc712


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goldenthorn wrote:From what style of classic propaganda posters does this draw inspiration?


There are plenty of propaganda posters that had a simpler design. Especially WWI era posters, those tended to have a message and graphic element, but weren't as loud and busy as many produced during WWII.

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fuacka


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That's so cool guys!
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tomspc


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Not seeing the WWII propaganda aspect to this design. Seems off topic to me

goldenthorn


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aerc712 wrote:There are plenty of propaganda posters that had a simpler design. Especially WWI era posters, those tended to have a message and graphic element, but weren't as loud and busy as many produced during WWII.


Mmm-hmm, I used to love using this one archive of WWI-era social hygiene propaganda posters that were indeed simplistic slogan+graphic-type designs. They did have a very distinctive style and were great fun to reuse for humour.

deboraho


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goldenthorn wrote:Mmm-hmm, I used to love using this one archive of WWI-era social hygiene propaganda posters that were indeed simplistic slogan+graphic-type designs. They did have a very distinctive style and were great fun to reuse for humour.


really... ?

deboraho


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deboraho wrote:really... ?


I guess my question would be.... If this shirt was to print, someone would look at it and say " Ohhh I love the WWII Poster propaganda usage here !! ??? NOT very disappointing use of wasted rules....BUT that is nothing new here....

goldenthorn


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deboraho wrote:I guess my question would be.... If this shirt was to print, someone would look at it and say " Ohhh I love the WWII Poster propaganda usage here !! ??? NOT very disappointing use of wasted rules....BUT that is nothing new here....


I do not disagree with you. I do not see this design as evoking any classical propaganda style (it doesn't HAVE to be WW2, as far as I interpret it).

Of course, I am not too familiar with propaganda posters, as clarified on another entry, so it is quite possible--likely, even!--that this entry takes inspiration from a particular poster or classic propaganda style with which I am not familiar.

deboraho


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goldenthorn wrote:I do not disagree with you.

I do not see this design as evoking any classical propaganda style (it doesn't HAVE to be WW2, as far as I interpret it).

Of course, I am not too familiar with propaganda posters, as clarified on another entry, so it is quite possible--likely, even!--that this entry takes inspiration from a particular poster or classic propaganda style with which I am not familiar.


You are absolutely right... however, I watch week after week of what I refer to as "rule breakers" . I am sure with any art form there is always a one of scenario, this group seems to abuse it more so then not. Please note, not everyone, you can look at the so called artwork and tell who is falling from grace....My issue is that WOOT cannot !

aerc712


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goldenthorn wrote:I do not disagree with you. I do not see this design as evoking any classical propaganda style (it doesn't HAVE to be WW2, as far as I interpret it).

Of course, I am not too familiar with propaganda posters, as clarified on another entry, so it is quite possible--likely, even!--that this entry takes inspiration from a particular poster or classic propaganda style with which I am not familiar.


In this thread, my comment was in direct response to your question. Nothing I said was incorrect. If someone goes to Google and looks up propaganda posters, even ones from WWII, it is possible to see a variety of styles. Yes, there are the vibrant, detailed end of the world designs. But then there are others that are a bit more subdued.

I am not an artist and there were times when the derby involved styled that I was not very familiar with. In those cases I either a) looked them up to learn more or b) opted not to comment on whether a design fit the derby's style requirement.

deboraho


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aerc712 wrote:In this thread, my comment was in direct response to your question. Nothing I said was incorrect. If someone goes to Google and looks up propaganda posters, even ones from WWII, it is possible to see a variety of styles. Yes, there are the vibrant, detailed end of the world designs. But then there are others that are a bit more subdued.

I am not an artist and there were times when the derby involved styled that I was not very familiar with. In those cases I either a) looked them up to learn more or b) opted not to comment on whether a design fit the derby's style requirement.


Kinda like doing an abstract Mona Lisa...?

aerc712


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deboraho wrote:Kinda like doing an abstract Mona Lisa...?


I'm not sure what this is referring to...


ETA - Everyone has a different POV and a different point of reference for the derbies. What one person likes another may not, one design may look familiar to someone and it may look original to someone else. The strong, negative reactions to certain designs and artists last week really bothered me and I'm sad to see that carry over into this week. That may be influencing my comments. If it is, well, I'm not sorry. I really respect the artists here and don't think they should get torn apart after working so hard on their designs.

deboraho


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aerc712 wrote:I'm not sure what this is referring to...

What I said about knowing certain art styles and not others?


My comment was referring to a style request and taking that request and doing something completely different... nothing to do with your knowledge.This all refers back to what I call the "rule breakers "

aerc712


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deboraho wrote:My comment was referring to a style request and taking that request and doing something completely different... nothing to do with your knowledge.This all refers back to what I call the "rule breakers "


I think one overall issue with style-specific derbies is that people will have certain expectations and if those are not met, then the automatic reaction seems to be calling for the design's rejection.

tomspc


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deboraho wrote:You are absolutely right... however, I watch week after week of what I refer to as "rule breakers" . I am sure with any art form there is always a one of scenario, this group seems to abuse it more so then not. Please note, not everyone, you can look at the so called artwork and tell who is falling from grace....My issue is that WOOT cannot !


Careful. They don't like you stating the obvious in here.

tomspc


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aerc712 wrote:The strong, negative reactions to certain designs and artists last week really bothered me and I'm sad to see that carry over into this week. That may be influencing my comments. If it is, well, I'm not sorry. I really respect the artists here and don't think they should get torn apart after working so hard on their designs.


There are artists here that take the theme and rules seriously. They put out great original artwork each week. Then there are those who plagiarize, or use the same design elements week after week. It gets old. But people pat them on the back and tell them how awesome they are, how they rock. They should be called out every week on their BS. I don't think it's a spill-over from last week. I think people are over these washed up artists who have no new original ideas, just living on their past derby glory.

aerc712


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tomspc wrote:There are artists here that take the theme and rules seriously. They put out great original artwork each week. Then there are those who plagiarize, or use the same design elements week after week. It gets old. But people pat them on the back and tell them how awesome they are, how they rock. They should be called out every week on their BS. I don't think it's a spill-over from last week. I think people are over these washed up artists who have no new original ideas, just living on their past derby glory.


Artists have different styles and so do audiences. What one person likes another may not. That's just how it is. Disliking a style is not a reason to go around and belittle what someone has worked hard on.

tomspc


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aerc712 wrote:Artists have different styles and so do audiences. What one person likes another may not. That's just how it is. Disliking a style is not a reason to go around and belittle what someone has worked hard on.


Who did I belittle?

biticol


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Interesting points of view. thanks for all the comments and I'll try to do my best next week. and will repeat with Wirdou whenever he wants. I enjoyed the collab.

bolis


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[I read all the comments on your shirt each person has their take. personally I like your shirt and it is one I would buy if it is offered so I hope it makes the cut good luck

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