Derby #59: At The Luau
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Luau Angel

Luau Angel
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rglee129


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I put my design in as the same time as this one? Dang! Beautiful work, TOE. This is the most gorgeous design I've seen in a long time...

toe2254


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rglee129 wrote:I put my design in as the same time as this one? Dang! Beautiful work, TOE. This is the most gorgeous design I've seen in a long time...


geez thanks! you've got some great stuff in the derby already. good luck! this is my last entry for this derby, i'm wooted out! gonna relax for a bit in front of the TV with the wife and watch some Heroes (season 2) on DVD. Aloha!

theinfinityloop


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toe2254 wrote:geez thanks! you've got some great stuff in the derby already. good luck! this is my last entry for this derby, i'm wooted out! gonna relax for a bit in front of the TV with the wife and watch some Heroes (season 2) on DVD. Aloha!

Boy, you've been busy! This is beautiful! I'm glad to see more artists putting people in their designs. Heroes is awesome. I can't wait for the new season.


klswoot


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Gorgeous as Always Toe! You really captured that vintage Hawaii feel. Love the little cherubs too. Good luck!!

Andy47240


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This is by far the best of this derby.



earthart


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Great job toe. GMV (as well as your kls collaborations). I don't know how you can produce so much high quality art so quickly. It's really amazing. Best of luck with all of your designs.

heartluce


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This is freaking amazing toe. I love everything about it.

AnnaJo


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Wow, you have done some really great stuff this derby. Kudos to you! gmv!

caspianta


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i think i just creamed my pants. holy god this is incredible!!! very well done indeed.

lucky1988


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Beautiful design! gmv

klswoot


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Be sure to check out this late entry by Toe. It's fantastic. (I feel bad that you spent so much time on the earlier collabs with me and had to submit this one so late.) It's amazing Toe! I think I've liked every single one of your Woot entries!

Easily my favorite of the derby.

aliensailor


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What a beauty! Reminiscent of Alphonse Mucha.

blammoed


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Oh geez, this has to be one of the most lovely designs I've seen. Beautiful, a definite favorite.

female


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Nice color and linework, but the whole thing feels really stiff. She's straight up and down, and the trees are also. This kind of Muchaesque art usually has the female figure in a flowy 'S' shape. Still pretty nice.

toe2254


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female wrote:Nice color and linework, but the whole thing feels really stiff. She's straight up and down, and the trees are also. This kind of Muchaesque art usually has the female figure in a flowy 'S' shape. Still pretty nice.


thanks female! while it's true Mucha often did more lounging type poses they're not the only ones he did. i have been a huge fan of his work since college (and the Art Nouveau period in general) but i have nowhere near the talent he had. i confess i used this pose simply because it was easier. glad you like the design though. thanks again!

female


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toe2254 wrote:thanks female! while it's true Mucha often did more lounging type poses they're not the only ones he did. i have been a huge fan of his work since college (and the Art Nouveau period in general) but i have nowhere near the talent he had. i confess i used this pose simply because it was easier. glad you like the design though. thanks again!


Yeah, that has a straight up and down composition, but if you notice he still put in a reverse S shape even though the figure is standing up straight. The shoulders are back, then it flows forward to the belly and then down and back again to the calves and then forward to the figure on the ground. I don't think Mucha would have done a figure completely straight up and down. Not knocking your entry, it's still great, but just a minor critique.

caspianta


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female wrote:This kind of Muchaesque art usually has the female figure in a flowy 'S' shape. Still pretty nice.


the two i have hanging right in front of me don't ;)

female


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caspianta wrote:the two i have hanging right in front of me don't ;)


You may think so, but I sincerely doubt it. Mucha did many female figures standing up 'straight', but even these figures usually had an 'S' curve in them, if not in their body than at least in the form of their clothing (not the detail wrinkles, but the actual shape).



These 'S' shapes and contrapasto poses, however subtly done, create a feminine action line and silhouette. Toe's illustration has a very straight action line, which is rigid and masculine. The skirt wrinkles running diagonally help to break this up a bit, but the form and silhouette are still straight up and down. (I won't even discuss the shape that she and the bottom flower create as I don't want to be crude, but it also adds to the masculinity of what should be a very feminine design.) Just my opinion of course. I would be all over this design with some subtle modifications.

klswoot


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female wrote:You may think so, but I sincerely doubt it. Mucha did many female figures standing up 'straight', but even these figures usually had an 'S' curve in them, if not in their body than at least in the form of their clothing (not the detail wrinkles, but the actual shape).



These 'S' shapes and contrapasto poses, however subtly done, create a feminine action line and silhouette. Toe's illustration has a very straight action line, which is rigid and masculine. The skirt wrinkles running diagonally help to break this up a bit, but the form and silhouette are still straight up and down. (I won't even discuss the shape that she and the bottom flower create as I don't want to be crude, but it also adds to the masculinity of what should be a very feminine design.) Just my opinion of course. I would be all over this design with some subtle modifications.


I actually like seeing these pictures all together Female. I think you've made a great comparison and it's certainly something that I'll keep in mind if I include ladies in future designs. I think the flowing S-shape certainly adds a greater flirty-ness and femininity to the final design.

But, looking at the derby as a whole, I still can't stop admiring Toe's work on his Luau Angel. I still think it's a beautiful design and I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

kiliaa


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female wrote:You may think so, but I sincerely doubt it. Mucha did many female figures standing up 'straight', but even these figures usually had an 'S' curve in them, if not in their body than at least in the form of their clothing (not the detail wrinkles, but the actual shape).



These 'S' shapes and contrapasto poses, however subtly done, create a feminine action line and silhouette. Toe's illustration has a very straight action line, which is rigid and masculine. The skirt wrinkles running diagonally help to break this up a bit, but the form and silhouette are still straight up and down. (I won't even discuss the shape that she and the bottom flower create as I don't want to be crude, but it also adds to the masculinity of what should be a very feminine design.) Just my opinion of course. I would be all over this design with some subtle modifications.


I love Mucha's work (even been to the Mucha museum in Prague), and I never consciously noticed that trend. That is awesome to see - thanks Female, for pointing that out. I learned something today!
Also, I like the detail work in this design - you should definitely continue experimenting with this style, Toe.

Andy47240


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This needs more votes. It is one of the most beautifule "T-Shirt" designs I have ever seen.



toe2254


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female wrote:You may think so, but I sincerely doubt it. Mucha did many female figures standing up 'straight', but even these figures usually had an 'S' curve in them, if not in their body than at least in the form of their clothing (not the detail wrinkles, but the actual shape).



These 'S' shapes and contrapasto poses, however subtly done, create a feminine action line and silhouette. Toe's illustration has a very straight action line, which is rigid and masculine. The skirt wrinkles running diagonally help to break this up a bit, but the form and silhouette are still straight up and down. (I won't even discuss the shape that she and the bottom flower create as I don't want to be crude, but it also adds to the masculinity of what should be a very feminine design.) Just my opinion of course. I would be all over this design with some subtle modifications.


i freely admit Mucha was and will always be a better artist than i will ever be. my work pails in his masterful shadow. but i thank you for picking apart my design into pedantic minutiae and making it abundantly clear i will never equal his massive talent.

toe2254


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Andy47240 wrote:This needs more votes. It is one of the most beautifule "T-Shirt" designs I have ever seen.


thank you Andy.

2thFairy


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female wrote:You may think so, but I sincerely doubt it. Mucha did many female figures standing up 'straight', but even these figures usually had an 'S' curve in them, if not in their body than at least in the form of their clothing (not the detail wrinkles, but the actual shape).



These 'S' shapes and contrapasto poses, however subtly done, create a feminine action line and silhouette. Toe's illustration has a very straight action line, which is rigid and masculine. The skirt wrinkles running diagonally help to break this up a bit, but the form and silhouette are still straight up and down. (I won't even discuss the shape that she and the bottom flower create as I don't want to be crude, but it also adds to the masculinity of what should be a very feminine design.) Just my opinion of course. I would be all over this design with some subtle modifications.


I dunno.. I think that the dress swirling to the right shows the S shape even better than than the middle picture on the top.

superspryte


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2thFairy wrote:I dunno.. I think that the dress swirling to the right shows the S shape even better than than the middle picture on the top.

I'd have to agree that this is extremely masculine in form. It's still great, but I have to agree it's also extremely phallic, despite the flower.

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4Se7ens


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I dunno, toe. Did you even consider that the line-work and stylization on this illustration would be way too well-rendered, visually stunning, and not even close to generic enough to have a decent chance at the fog? Just my two cents. Voted anyway.

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purplecrocus83


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Very beautiful and the colors are great together. GMV

toe2254


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4Se7ens wrote:I dunno, toe. Did you even consider that the line-work and stylization on this illustration would be way too well-rendered, visually stunning, and not even close to generic enough to have a decent chance at the fog? Just my two cents. Voted anyway.


not really, but it did occur to me after the 5 hour of working on it that i had already spent way too much time on it for it to win.

klswoot


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toe2254 wrote:not really, but it did occur to me after the 5 hour of working on it that i had already spent way too much time on it for it to win.


Wait...only 5 hours. I'm embarrassed to say how long it would take me. (I've spent 16 hours on one design...I know...I'm an WAFFLES! TASTY WAFFLES!!)

And, mine wouldn't look like your Luau Angel even if I tried to copy it straight off the page!!! 5 hours...no way! That's some serious talent!

Toe - Any chance you'll make Luau Angel available in a print form as well as a tshirt at some later date?

SydneyB


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Oh! How absolutely beautiful!! Why is this not fogged??

toe2254


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klswoot wrote:Wait...only 5 hours. I'm embarrassed to say how long it would take me. (I've spent 16 hours on one design...I know...I'm an WAFFLES! TASTY WAFFLES!!)

And, mine wouldn't look like your Luau Angel even if I tried to copy it straight off the page!!! 5 hours...no way! That's some serious talent!

Toe - Any chance you'll make Luau Angel available in a print form as well as a tshirt at some later date?


the 5th hour was when i had the realization.. i think it was somewhere around 8 total. it's the Wacom pad that makes the difference. once you have one you'll see the difference. there is a period of adjustment though until you get used to it. when i was using a mouse a design like Luau Angel could easily take twice as long.

and yes, she will be added to the growing list of designs that i will eventually offer somewhere.. once i decide where that somewhere is.

toe2254


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SydneyB wrote:Oh! How absolutely beautiful!! Why is this not fogged??


apparently she's too masculine and looks like a trouser snake.

dmkooo


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superb!

heartluce


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Still my favorite of the derby. Best of luck elsewhere with it Toe. Just let us know. Kudos on your dedication and talent.

toe2254


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heartluce wrote:Still my favorite of the derby. Best of luck elsewhere with it Toe. Just let us know. Kudos on your dedication and talent.


thanks so much! and be sure i will! still trying to decide on where to put them. i've new to this type of thing (online stores) and i'm trying to get as much information as i can before making my choice.

2thFairy


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klswoot wrote:Toe - Any chance you'll make Luau Angel available in a print form as well as a tshirt at some later date?


Yes!! Please do!

2thFairy


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I think this is absolutely stunning. I'm not sure why the drama came into play in the first place.

klswoot


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toe2254 wrote:thanks so much! and be sure i will! still trying to decide on where to put them. i've new to this type of thing (online stores) and i'm trying to get as much information as i can before making my choice.


Toe- Check out Robert's Bestloser site. He has a lot of good information comparing print qualities etc. from places like Spreadshirt, Bountee, Cafepress and more. Could be useful to you.

I'd also love to know what you do with this design.

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