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The Sun Sets on a Concrete Forest

The Sun Sets on a Concrete Forest
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odysseyroc


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"It's a concrete forest of course it is of course it is
The lamp posts are the oak trees the street tops are the streams
The natives all stay inside their huts until that bright sun beams" - Aceyalone The Greatest Show on Earth





zosai


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awesome design! GMV

midgerock


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amazing what you can do with 2 colors! amazing! I hope this prints!

Spiritgreen


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Awesome design, 'roc! I can see your comic book inspiration coming through more lately, and it's really working. :^)

BootsBoots


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The coloring is amazing. Your best yet!


jasneko


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I like the fisheye feel here odysseyroc. And great job with just the 2 colors, looks awesome.

Vote!


fishbiscuit5


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Whoa! How did you make that amazing sky with just two colors. Stay in the fog, awesome design!



odysseyroc


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Thanks everybody for the nice comments so far. I'm really happy about how this came out.





JRWorkshop


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The color is just sick!!


noblehappenstance


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Cool design, I think this is my favorite piece I've seen of yours


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expo01


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Amazing man!! (o;

kevlar51


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This really is top notch. What makes it for me are all the little details--the shoes, the droopy phone lines, the blimp-- all wonderful!

sTyLeS


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This is pretty swank, odysseyroc. I'd like to see you get a print.

ressamac


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This is gorgeous, odysseyroc! Am I correct in assuming there is a taco stand in one of these buildings? GMV.

odysseyroc


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ressamac wrote:This is gorgeous, odysseyroc! Am I correct in assuming there is a taco stand in one of these buildings? GMV.


One of the buildings? How about a taco stand in each building?!?





hashimotoyoshio


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Hey man, I gotta ask. You're clouds are beautiful. I can tell they are in halftones, (which they have to be) I've been struggling on making half tone shading like that. How does one accomplish it? Please .. o please. (avec le cherri)

odysseyroc


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hashimotoyoshio wrote:Hey man, I gotta ask. You're clouds are beautiful. I can tell they are in halftones, (which they have to be) I've been struggling on making half tone shading like that. How does one accomplish it? Please .. o please. (avec le cherri)


Are you asking how to become awesome like me, or do you just want to know how to make the halftones after you already have the art done?





hashimotoyoshio


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odysseyroc wrote:Are you asking how to become awesome like me, or do you just want to know how to make the halftones after you already have the art done?


Please, I don't need to be like you. I'm awesome in my own right. Just wondering the photoshop technique used to blend colors with halftones. I can do the rest. So yes, heheh, the halftones portion. Currently I'm able to create images like this, http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=48622 but the glow was accomplished by masking off the areas with the quick mask and then halftoning the quick mask so that I could erase the blue and add the orange on another layer. Gotta be a better way, since I wanted the line art to show throw both colors.
the layer option of multiply blends the colors as well as letting the black come through. So, there is some sort of technique I don't know yet. Care to let me know a little process? Thanks by the way.

odysseyroc


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hashimotoyoshio wrote:Please, I don't need to be like you. I'm awesome in my own right. Just wondering the photoshop technique used to blend colors with halftones. I can do the rest. So yes, heheh, the halftones portion. Currently I'm able to create images like this, http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=48622 but the glow was accomplished by masking off the areas with the quick mask and then halftoning the quick mask so that I could erase the blue and add the orange on another layer. Gotta be a better way, since I wanted the line art to show throw both colors.
the layer option of multiply blends the colors as well as letting the black come through. So, there is some sort of technique I don't know yet. Care to let me know a little process? Thanks by the way.


When you are creating this stuff, it's important to not use any of those layer optioins like screen, multiply, etc. Use as many layers as you want, but they need to be at 100% opacity, and everything including your tools need to be set to "normal". If you have a blue background and fill with 50% of the color that's fine, but you can't fill with the bucket set to screen or multiply. so go nuts with the rendering, but be sure that you don't use more than one color on a layer, then make your halftones at the end

Here is a video I made a while black showing how to make halftones.





lucky1988


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Looks great, love the perspective of the buildings!

hashimotoyoshio


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odysseyroc wrote:When you are creating this stuff, it's important to not use any of those layer optioins like screen, multiply, etc. Use as many layers as you want, but they need to be at 100% opacity, and everything including your tools need to be set to "normal". If you have a blue background and fill with 50% of the color that's fine, but you can't fill with the bucket set to screen or multiply. so go nuts with the rendering, but be sure that you don't use more than one color on a layer, then make your halftones at the end

Here is a video I made a while black showing how to make halftones.


ahem.. *get's down on knees* *begins bowing* ... *continues bowing*

hashimotoyoshio


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odysseyroc wrote:When you are creating this stuff, it's important to not use any of those layer optioins like screen, multiply, etc. Use as many layers as you want, but they need to be at 100% opacity, and everything including your tools need to be set to "normal". If you have a blue background and fill with 50% of the color that's fine, but you can't fill with the bucket set to screen or multiply. so go nuts with the rendering, but be sure that you don't use more than one color on a layer, then make your halftones at the end

Here is a video I made a while black showing how to make halftones.


Wait wait. *raises hand* how can I get my scanned in drawings to be line art over the coloring? I was accomplishing this through multiply. Is there another way with using white space as transparency?

odysseyroc


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hashimotoyoshio wrote:Wait wait. *raises hand* how can I get my scanned in drawings to be line art over the coloring? I was accomplishing this through multiply. Is there another way with using white space as transparency?


First thing you should do is scan your art as bitmap instead of greyscale. Then you can just select the black and make a layer via copy. If you insist on scanning in greyscale, then you'll have to threshold the art to get rid of any antialiasing.





hashimotoyoshio


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odysseyroc wrote:First thing you should do is scan your art as bitmap instead of greyscale. Then you can just select the black and make a layer via copy. If you insist on scanning in greyscale, then you'll have to threshold the art to get rid of any antialiasing.


hmmm. While not completely ignorant of the threshold and antialias, in context I don't know what you mean. Threshold to make the blacks black and the whites white, Cutting out all those pretty grays. What does antialiasing have to do with it?

odysseyroc


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hashimotoyoshio wrote:hmmm. While not completely ignorant of the threshold and antialias, in context I don't know what you mean. Threshold to make the blacks black and the whites white, Cutting out all those pretty grays. What does antialiasing have to do with it?


Each shade of grey would have to be it's own ink color, or you can fake a grey with halftones. Let's say your shirt was white and you wanted to make a 20% grey box without having grey be one of your colors. You'd make a box, fill it with 20% black and then make your halftones. What you'd be left with is a box filled with solid black dots, but it would appear to be grey from a distance. Same applies to your outlines, the black can only print as a solid black, so you'd lose all of your grey tones anyways. The best thing to do is threshold them and you'd have your solid black, it might look a little jaggy on your screen, but that won't matter when it prints. In your print ready art, each of your colors should be selectable with the wand tool set to 0 tolerance. Sure you can convert your outlines into a halftoned mess, but why would anybody want to do that?





hashimotoyoshio


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odysseyroc wrote:Each shade of grey would have to be it's own ink color, or you can fake a grey with halftones. Let's say your shirt was white and you wanted to make a 20% grey box without having grey be one of your colors. You'd make a box, fill it with 20% black and then make your halftones. What you'd be left with is a box filled with solid black dots, but it would appear to be grey from a distance. Same applies to your outlines, the black can only print as a solid black, so you'd lose all of your grey tones anyways. The best thing to do is threshold them and you'd have your solid black, it might look a little jaggy on your screen, but that won't matter when it prints. In your print ready art, each of your colors should be selectable with the wand tool set to 0 tolerance. Sure you can convert your outlines into a halftoned mess, but why would anybody want to do that?


I see what you are saying. So once I have the line art scanned in, I have it in a new layer on top of everything else so that the line art is on top? That being the case, can I use multiply on just the line art so the white drops away for the colors? Or could I somehow make the white space transparent? I've been trying to figure this one out. Thank you very much for the help.

odysseyroc


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hashimotoyoshio wrote:I see what you are saying. So once I have the line art scanned in, I have it in a new layer on top of everything else so that the line art is on top? That being the case, can I use multiply on just the line art so the white drops away for the colors? Or could I somehow make the white space transparent? I've been trying to figure this one out. Thank you very much for the help.


it would have to be black on a transparent background.





hashimotoyoshio


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odysseyroc wrote:it would have to be black on a transparent background.


I have figured it out. The answer is simple. Someone scans in their line art. for me, I couldn't scan in straight to bitmap. Which is fine, I didn't like the options. Better. Scan in grayscale. You're going to have white space on a white paper with black lines. However you get your blacks black and your whites white, do that to your liking. Then all you need to do is, when it's a grayscale drawing go to the channels and select the lines by alt clicking on the gray channel. Then with a new layer, fill with black. You will have every little speck of your drawing now without white for background, you'll have transparent. At which point you can clean up any points you don't want and you'll have line art you can work with with halftones.

SnowQueenVT


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ROCKY! ROCKY! (Crowd chants!)

http://www.wix.com/scottgreenip/snowqueenvt

polluxoil


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This is beautiful. I want a print of this on my wall, not just on a t-shirt.

avhienda01


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That sky is amazing. The colors work perfect for this.

L3g3ndQ


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how did this fall out of the fog???

B^(

Spiritgreen


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BootsBoots


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I'm so sad this fell out of the fog. I thought it was a print for sure.


odysseyroc


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glorinmann


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Aw, c'mon guys...
I'm so depressed to see it out of the fog, I was already wondering if I should buy one or two

melquam


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I had this picked for top honors. Shows how much I know.

fishbiscuit5


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odysseyroc wrote:


Me too.



paigeg


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odysseyroc wrote:First thing you should do is scan your art as bitmap instead of greyscale. Then you can just select the black and make a layer via copy. If you insist on scanning in greyscale, then you'll have to threshold the art to get rid of any antialiasing.


>joins in the genuflecting<
Dadburn, THAT was a little detail I was missing! SO glad I checked this out.
Oh yeah - nice picture.
NOT! I gotta add that this rocks SO hard. The light on the 'pander' sub is awesome. This, though, is almost metallic on my screen. I know it won't do that on a shirt, but it will still look fabulous.

paigeg


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odysseyroc wrote:


Added my vote, hoping to help re-fog this.

chumpmagic


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It seems like you already notice this, but it looks like you have found your calling here. I have always liked your characters, yet it seems your pure environment designs please the masses. Keep it up, and you be a shoo-in it seems!

Very awesome design!


odysseyroc


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chumpmagic wrote:It seems like you already notice this, but it looks like you have found your calling here. I have always liked your characters, yet it seems your pure environment designs please the masses. Keep it up, and you be a shoo-in it seems!

Very awesome design!


Funny thing is, I started doing these designs because I'm not real comfortable drawing environments. I figure I'll move away from my comfort zone for a while then see if I can bring everything together when I feel like I've reached at some level of proficiency. Expect to see more designs like this from me for a while.





odysseyroc


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For those of you who miss my taco designs...Here's my newest obsession, fluffernutter burritos or flufferitos.

To make one, you'll need a flour tortilla, marshmallow creme, peanut butter and (optionally) fruit spread. Just spread everything on the tortilla in the order I listed everything and roll that bad boy up, pinwheel style.





hashimotoyoshio


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odysseyroc wrote:For those of you who miss my taco designs...Here's my newest obsession, fluffernutter burritos or flufferitos.

To make one, you'll need a flour tortilla, marshmallow creme, peanut butter and (optionally) fruit spread. Just spread everything on the tortilla in the order I listed everything and roll that bad boy up, pinwheel style.


and the crowd goes silent...

paigeg


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odysseyroc wrote:For those of you who miss my taco designs...Here's my newest obsession, fluffernutter burritos or flufferitos.

To make one, you'll need a flour tortilla, marshmallow creme, peanut butter and (optionally) fruit spread. Just spread everything on the tortilla in the order I listed everything and roll that bad boy up, pinwheel style.


You bring a taco truck around my neighborhood selling these, and I'm in.

scarletrayne


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I am very upset that this is no longer in the fog. This is an amazing design and my favorite in this derby. I hope it climbs back up.

sTyLeS


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scarletrayne wrote:I am very upset that this is no longer in the fog. This is an amazing design and my favorite in this derby. I hope it climbs back up.


At the very least it should get an HM.

kakolak


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SunnyLea0


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humbert


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It really sucks that this has no chance of winning any more - it was the only sure-buy for me out of this week's selection.

*sigh* Oh well. I just hope you submit something equally gorgeous next time that actually gets enough votes.

odysseyroc


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Thanks everybody for the comments and support! Hopefully this will pull an HM.





walmazan


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odysseyroc wrote:Thanks everybody for the comments and support! Hopefully this will pull an HM.


GMV! And you deserve a print soon! Incredible work!

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