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ramyb


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bluejester


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On the one hand it's pretty. However, I feel that this is too evocative of the "Aztec Sunset" design you did over the summer. Both of them are nicely done, just a little too similar. I think this would do better if on the bottom part a lion was taking down one of those animals.

omarfeliciano


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I like that the animals aren't the same on the reflection.

ramyb


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bluejester wrote:On the one hand it's pretty. However, I feel that this is too evocative of the "Aztec Sunset" design you did over the summer. Both of them are nicely done, just a little too similar. I think this would do better if on the bottom part a lion was taking down one of those animals.


The idea behind this was to do a reflection of the same scene at night- so the bottom shows the nocturnal animals- I see what you are saying about the similarity to aztec sunset in that they are both sun-based designs, but I think aesthetically and conceptually they are hopefully different enough that this one stands alone.

Josephus


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ramyb wrote:The idea behind this was to do a reflection of the same scene at night- so the bottom shows the nocturnal animals- I see what you are saying about the similarity to aztec sunset in that they are both sun-based designs, but I think aesthetically and conceptually they are hopefully different enough that this one stands alone.


it does, certainly. I don't think the blue works too well- evokes water to me more than night. maybe some sky with stars, or a moon would have been better.

sjwilcox83


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Beautiful! GMV

tobefonseca


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Just Great!

MasterWolf


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Unbelievably gorgeous. Wow I can't wait to buy this shirt.

dreadwood


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I've gotta say Ramyb, when you do the artsy designs I can't help but shake my head in wonder. Amazing work on this one. You should do a tutorial ;)

specsmachine


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ramyb wrote:The idea behind this was to do a reflection of the same scene at night- so the bottom shows the nocturnal animals-

I like this better after you described it. At first, I didn't notice the moon and stars and didn't know why the reflection was different. Then, after the explanation, I was like,"Oh, yeah! That makes sense!"

ccazabon


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Josephus wrote:it does, certainly. I don't think the blue works too well- evokes water to me more than night. maybe some sky with stars, or a moon would have been better.


I think that's the idea: the reflection looks like it's a reflection in a pond what it's reflecting isn't the scene above. Imo it works with the context of the rest of the design.

one of my favorites of yours, ramy.

bellisperennis


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I love it. Especially the attention to day/night detail. Thanks for branching out into this kind of work - a refreshing change from cutesy animals!

Nekkochan


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ramyb wrote:The idea behind this was to do a reflection of the same scene at night- so the bottom shows the nocturnal animals- I see what you are saying about the similarity to aztec sunset in that they are both sun-based designs, but I think aesthetically and conceptually they are hopefully different enough that this one stands alone.


I see what you're saying, but lions are also very active at night, while antelopes do most of their grazing and running around by day, so I'm not seeing a clear distinction between nocturnal & diurnal animals in this - which is why I totally missed what you were going for, I guess.

vwclogan


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your getting a little redundant in your design.

same idea, diff colors.

bigpauly85


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Ramyb you are an amazing artist!!

mldgibberish


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It is beautiful and I finally get it:I should be able to wear this shirt upside down! It's reversable! I Guess I'll have to order a 3x...GMV

fossilgirl1


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I wouldn't change a thing. GMV

SJulian1


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How is this a practical design for a shirt? It's way too small to see any of the detail. If someone were on the other side of a room, this shirt would look like a messed up circle with some blobs in it.

cwendauthi


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SJulian1 wrote:How is this a practical design for a shirt? It's way too small to see any of the detail. If someone were on the other side of a room, this shirt would look like a messed up circle with some blobs in it.


Boy, you must hate the shirts with phrases on them. From across the room they just look like solid shirts with scribbles on them.

devium


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vwclogan wrote:your getting a little redundant in your design.

same idea, diff colors.


I think you missed the point of this shirt. Not the same idea at all.

elmosuperman


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Rockn' colors. I dig it.

drummer07


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elmosuperman wrote:Rockn' colors. I dig it.


great looking shirt, I'd buy one.

Vormund


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vwclogan wrote:your getting a little redundant in your design.

same idea, diff colors.


I'm not sure why people say this is so similar. It's far different...and awesome!

JadenKale


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devium wrote:I think you missed the point of this shirt. Not the same idea at all.


Perhaps it's not the same idea, but if you look at the sunsets on the top, it's the same shape. He basically tossed a gradient on the new one and trimmed back the rays from the first piece. It's pretty much the same as the one from the summer. It's a sunset silhouette reflecting over water. It's not EXACT, but he's reusing the idea he did only a few months earlier and printed with last time.

rowanmikaio


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JadenKale wrote:Perhaps it's not the same idea, but if you look at the sunsets on the top, it's the same shape. He basically tossed a gradient on the new one and trimmed back the rays from the first piece. It's pretty much the same as the one from the summer. It's a sunset silhouette reflecting over water. It's not EXACT, but he's reusing the idea he did only a few months earlier and printed with last time.


If you looked more closely at the design, you'd see that it's not a reflection on water, but instead a day/night contrast. That's why the animals are different and there's a moon on the bottom half.

You'd also know this if you actually read the thread before posting. ^_^

devium


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JadenKale wrote:Perhaps it's not the same idea, but if you look at the sunsets on the top, it's the same shape. He basically tossed a gradient on the new one and trimmed back the rays from the first piece. It's pretty much the same as the one from the summer. It's a sunset silhouette reflecting over water. It's not EXACT, but he's reusing the idea he did only a few months earlier and printed with last time.


You are right. He has a sunset in this one just like the one from this summer. The sun looks completely different, isn't as big, does not have an Aztek pattern in it, is not showing a reflection over water but instead showing a contrast using much different colors, but you are right there is a sunset. My bad.

SJulian1


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cwendauthi wrote:Boy, you must hate the shirts with phrases on them. From across the room they just look like solid shirts with scribbles on them.


Yeah, actually. If it's a simple phrase with only a few words, and took up the whole shirt, then it would be fine.But all the key features of this design are indistinguishable from only a few feet away. Why would you want to wear something that will just look like blobs to everyone you pass by?

And besides that, with the bottom half of the circle is smaller than the top half, how is that "Balanced"?. I would just *love* to hear the excuse you have to justify why it was designed that way.

SJulian1


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JadenKale wrote:Perhaps it's not the same idea, but if you look at the sunsets on the top, it's the same shape. He basically tossed a gradient on the new one and trimmed back the rays from the first piece. It's pretty much the same as the one from the summer. It's a sunset silhouette reflecting over water. It's not EXACT, but he's reusing the idea he did only a few months earlier and printed with last time.


I'm going to have to side with those who are saying they aren't the same design. Ramyb tends to reuse general ideas over and over and over again. So yes, both designs are spherical and located on the chest of the shirt. But that doesn't mean that he just rehashed the Aztec design and slapped on a new name. Ramyb just uses the same few formats because he isn't really that creative.

There are plenty of legitimate faults to many of his designs, people can't go out of their way to make up something to complain about. Because when that happens, then all the blind Ramyb supporters can point at all the complaints, even valid ones, and say that we're just trying to bash on Ramyb.

cymricus


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SJulian1 wrote:I'm going to have to side with those who are saying they aren't the same design. Ramyb tends to reuse general ideas over and over and over again. So yes, both designs are spherical and located on the chest of the shirt. But that doesn't mean that he just rehashed the Aztec design and slapped on a new name. Ramyb just uses the same few formats because he isn't really that creative.

There are plenty of legitimate faults to many of his designs, people can't go out of their way to make up something to complain about. Because when that happens, then all the blind Ramyb supporters can point at all the complaints, even valid ones, and say that we're just trying to bash on Ramyb.


Your points are valid. I was thinking the same thing about this terrible artist that used the same tired technique throughout different points in his life. He clearly just took every painting, copied it, and then just changed a couple things about it 'til at some point he'd actually have a creative idea and switch it up a bit. I remember something about a blue period and cubism, but the guy's name escapes me. Pretty sure no one liked his art.

Do note, though, that personal taste dictates whether or not someone wants a subtle or intricately designed shirt with high color complement vs. a shirt that says "I LOOOOOOOVE PONIES" in bold, white, two-inch letters just so someone can read it. Your legitimate faults need to be objective for anyone to take you seriously.

Nice shirt. Keep up the good work.

alicorn894


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I really like this concept, but as an ecology major, the diurnal/nocturnal split here just doesn't sit right with me. Lions are largely nocturnal since it's cooler and most of their prey is out then.

I'll be interested to see how the shirt does. Probably won't get my vote, but if it turns up for sale I'll end up reconsidering. :P

sogwennn


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Cool shirt, voted.

harmony harmony oh love

SJulian1


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cymricus wrote:Do note, though, that personal taste dictates whether or not someone wants a subtle or intricately designed shirt with high color complement vs. a shirt that says "TOTALLY SCARED OF THE DARK NOW" in bold, white, two-inch letters just so someone can read it. Your legitimate faults need to be objective for anyone to take you seriously.

Nice shirt. Keep up the good work.


My complaints need to be objective? How is wanting a design that people can actually see the detail of not objective? But I can accept the fact that not everyone will share my opinion about that. Although, the fact that this shirt is suppose to be about balance, but the two halves of the circle aren't even close to being proportionate isn't really something that can be disputed as acceptable.

ramyb


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SJulian1 wrote:My complaints need to be objective? How is wanting a design that people can actually see the detail of not objective? But I can accept the fact that not everyone will share my opinion about that. Although, the fact that this shirt is suppose to be about balance, but the two halves of the circle aren't even close to being proportionate isn't really something that can be disputed as acceptable.


The two halves are actually almost identical- I broke the symmetry in a few places to make it a little more visually interesting and to push the fact that it isn't an exact reflection. Size-wise, though, they are nearly a perfect match- that was something I made sure of while working on the design. The top half has an extra "glow" around it, since it is illuminated by sunlight, while the bottom half blends into the darkness, but I don't see that as an issue. The design may not be to your liking, but I designed it this way because it is the visual I wanted to create and I don't think I failed in bringing my vision to life. As for the complaint that it will just be a blob from far away, just how far are you talking? Even from thumbnail size I can at least make out that the design shows a bright sun on top and a night sky on the bottom, as well as the silhouettes of trees and animals. That's about as large as the design would be from across a large room.


Anyway, thanks everyone for all the kind words I put a lot of time and thought into this design and went through many iterations before reaching this as my final product, and I'm glad people are enjoying the outcome.

muhammadajalal


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Good design, GMV

Dynasty471


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The color scheme reminds me a lot of the game Portal. It just has that two sides connotation to me.

ariellindz


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SJulian1 wrote:My complaints need to be objective? How is wanting a design that people can actually see the detail of not objective? But I can accept the fact that not everyone will share my opinion about that. Although, the fact that this shirt is suppose to be about balance, but the two halves of the circle aren't even close to being proportionate isn't really something that can be disputed as acceptable.


I think the point is different people have different tastes and not everyone cares if they can process the design as you walk past. The simple knowledge that you have an awesome shirt is enough for some people.
I personally don't care what interest people take in my clothing. If some random I don't know can't read the design on my shirt, am I really going to care? Not really.

pilarjuliet


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Wow, after looking at this for several days, I just noticed the little giraffes and elephants...so cool! I really like the idea of finding surprises in the design details, really love it.

FWIW, I wear designs that I like, whether or not someone needs to stick their nose in my chest to see the detail ;) It becomes a conversation piece & that's even more fun, for me, anyway.

In this design, I also find the contrast of day & night, with those particular colors, particularly striking and pleasing to the eye. Yeah, the nocturnal/diurnal animal choices aren't completely spot on, but still beautiful, love it.

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Pheline


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SJulian1 wrote:My complaints need to be objective? How is wanting a design that people can actually see the detail of not objective? .


It seems to me that someone would benefit from a good, thorough eye exam by an excellent opthalmologist. Seriously. I'm not being facetious. You may have a visual processing imbalance.

waterresistant


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SJulian1 wrote:
How is this a practical design for a shirt? It's way too small to see any of the detail. If someone were on the other side of a room, this shirt would look like a messed up circle with some blobs in it.

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Yeah, actually. If it's a simple phrase with only a few words, and took up the whole shirt, then it would be fine.But all the key features of this design are indistinguishable from only a few feet away. Why would you want to wear something that will just look like blobs to everyone you pass by?

And besides that, with the bottom half of the circle is smaller than the top half, how is that "Balanced"?. I would just *love* to hear the excuse you have to justify why it was designed that way.

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I'm going to have to side with those who are saying they aren't the same design. Ramyb tends to reuse general ideas over and over and over again. So yes, both designs are spherical and located on the chest of the shirt. But that doesn't mean that he just rehashed the Aztec design and slapped on a new name. Ramyb just uses the same few formats because he isn't really that creative.

There are plenty of legitimate faults to many of his designs, people can't go out of their way to make up something to complain about. Because when that happens, then all the blind Ramyb supporters can point at all the complaints, even valid ones, and say that we're just trying to bash on Ramyb.

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My complaints need to be objective? How is wanting a design that people can actually see the detail of not objective? But I can accept the fact that not everyone will share my opinion about that. Although, the fact that this shirt is suppose to be about balance, but the two halves of the circle aren't even close to being proportionate isn't really something that can be disputed as acceptable.


Holy freaking crap, SJulian1, someone's mother didn't love them when they were a child, did she?!? You are going to be a lonely, bitter old man that chases small children off his lawn with his cane and his pistol.

It's shirt woot. If you have to get your kicks by coming on here and bashing others to make yourself feel better, then you need get a life buddy. If you think ramyb's designs are so repetitive and obnoxious, why don't YOU submit a better one? Until we see that design and until it breaks the top 9, knock it off, please!

BigWes500


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WOW!!!!! ANOTHER shirt I would SO buy.....

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