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I wanted to do something with a more abstract feel, but that still represented steampunk. I've been working on this one all day, I hope you like how it turned out

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cool i like it very much! I like how you draw. its amazing!hope it wins! +1 vote

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Wow, amazing! Love the colors, and the concept is awesome! Fits really well for a shirt, good job!

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its very nice like very nice dice!

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Much more interesting than your other entry.

Really awesome design. I have actually really liked your designs in these past couple derbies. They have had more of an abstract and natural splendor to them.

I really hope to see this printed.

Great job Ramy! Very wearable!

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You know exactly how I feel about your Dog / Robot entry. That being said, this is much much better, on theme, and wearable. Good job.

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Very cool GMV

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This is awesome!!!

I commented on your other entry already. I felt that it appealed to the lowest common denominator and went for cheap votes. This entry, however, is much more interesting. It shows the same artistic skill, but fits the overall theme better.

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I feel that this is much better than your other entry. GMV!

I agree with the other comments - I like this one much better than your dog/robot entry.

Is this on black, or navy?

good show this week, ramy

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this blows the dog/robot entry out of the water! very nice i'd buy this.

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This is way better, but the dog one wasn't too bad in my opinion...

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Ramy! This is the first design of yours that I actually, legitimately like!

At the moment, this is the only design I would consider buying in the derby. Great job! Let's seem some more of this stuff in following derbys.

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Heck Yes!

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Beautiful :D first shirt I felt worth voting for!

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what color shirt is this on? it looks like it might have difficulty printing clearly depending on the shirt color.

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Holy guppy that's gorgeous!

Equiether wrote:Beautiful :D first shirt I felt worth voting for!

wow, really? i think there are a few really good designs this week

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Much better! This one definitely fits the definition of Steampunk so much more than your robot entry. This is stunning. I hope it takes Top 3 because I /want/ this shirt. If I had my wishes, I'd wish this to be a large wall graphic to put in my computer room. sigh. It would sit over my lego Mechwarrior Madcat, lego AT-ST, lego speeder bike and Big Daddy (Bioshock 2) figure.

Jestik wrote:
Is this on black, or navy?

My monitor shows black.

jumcdona wrote:My monitor shows black.

I was just noticing that myself. I originally thought it was brown! O_o But yeah, I think it's black.

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Orders of magnitude better than your other entry which is IMHO utter garbage.

schof wrote:Orders of magnitude better than your other entry which is IMHO utter garbage.

(Trying to understand how that is a "humble opinion"...)

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Beautiful!!
Congrats on two in the fog =)

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Beautifully designed indeed.

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What would be the point of a steam-powered flower & mechanical butterfly?

Sorry, although it may be visually appealing, I don't quite get it.

Moondragon wrote:(Trying to understand how that is a "humble opinion"...)

Maybe s/he meant honest opinion?

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I love steampunk and I love t-shirts, but I am tired of the same old kitsch shirts... that being said this one definitely has my vote. Good job.

lunartan wrote:What would be the point of a steam-powered flower & mechanical butterfly?

Sorry, although it may be visually appealing, I don't quite get it.

Have you ever read any steampunk... very little of any of it has a discernible point, but that doesn't make it any less cool

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The shirts I love don't always make it into the fog, but this is just beautiful. I love the placement too.

Nice work!

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Gorgeous. Would buy it in a heartbeat.

me2you wrote:This is awesome!!!

What exactly is it and how is this steampunk?

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I think this design is really cool and I like how it's off to the right in the picture. I'll definitely get one if it gets printed.

Isn't this outside the printable area?

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Simply beautiful! Definitely has my vote. +1

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Adding gears and a whisp of steam does not a steampunk design make.

I thought your other one was offtopic... I didn't even check the other fog shirts but now I see this ridiculousness.

That's it Woot. If this BS is going to continue, I'm out. I'm done. Peace.

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ack154 wrote:Adding gears and a whisp of steam does not a steampunk design make.

I thought your other one was offtopic... I didn't even check the other fog shirts but now I see this ridiculousness.

That's it Woot. If this BS is going to continue, I'm out. I'm done. Peace.

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Hey, look a butterfly. With gears inside it and a wisp of steam.

Sorry ramy, but steampunk is not the same thing as steam and gears. It should feel "rough" and this doesn't do that at all.

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On the collar and over the sleeve seam? Gonna deliver on that Woot or do we have a double standard?

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I like I want I vote YES

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woot! yes

Stormink wrote:On the collar and over the sleeve seam? Gonna deliver on that Woot or do we have a double standard?

You DO realize that they have to conference to reject something out of the fog, right?

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I'd wear it. It looks cool. But really who are you trying to kid with this? This isn't Steampunk at all. I really like your other design, but I can now see why some people are bothered.

There's some really good designs this week that should be in the fog but won't get the chance because of this off-topic (although nice to look at) design.

HeartlineTwist wrote:You DO realize that they have to conference to reject something out of the fog, right?

I don't even get why I HAVE to defend this comment but OK here goes:

Drakxxx's shirt WAS in the fog, and it was rejected 50 hours after its submission.

This shirt IS in the fog, and we are approaching 100 hours after its submission with NO rejection.

Yes I DO realize they must conference to reject a fogged entry. BUT, if you'd do a little thinking you'd see there is reason to assume that it should have been rejected by now.

*And YES I can use capitalized words to sound like an ass too.*

Stormink wrote:I don't even get why I HAVE to defend this comment but OK here goes:

Drakxxx's shirt WAS in the fog, and it was rejected 50 hours after its submission.

This shirt IS in the fog, and we are approaching 100 hours after its submission with NO rejection.

Yes I DO realize they must conference to reject a fogged entry. BUT, if you'd do a little thinking you'd see there is reason to assume that it should have been rejected by now.

*And YES I can use capitalized words to sound like an ass too.*

Actually, Drakxxx's shirt was rejected in fifth place, according to SDS. So it may be that they couldn't reject Drakxxx's shirt immediately, but were able to do it earlier than it might have been since it fell out.

eHalcyon wrote:Actually, Drakxxx's shirt was rejected in fifth place, according to SDS. So it may be that they couldn't reject Drakxxx's shirt immediately, but were able to do it earlier than it might have been since it fell out.

And the alley-oop for the win?

Trust me, Storm, I want this to be rejected just as much as you do, but I also realize that the shirt.woot staff probably isn't around at all times. Should it have been rejected by now? In an ideal world, yes.

mollug wrote:Have you ever read any steampunk... very little of any of it has a discernible point, but that doesn't make it any less cool

Yep, I've read some steampunk lit, leaning towards the cyberpunk variations.

Guess I should have rephrased my question and asked how this design fit the genre ~ Just by slapping some gears and steam on a design? But that oversight seems to be the commonality with most derby entries... in this and most other derbies.

hasdgfas wrote:Hey, look a butterfly. With gears inside it and a wisp of steam.

Sorry ramy, but steampunk is not the same thing as steam and gears.

I agree with this statement. The design is visually appealing (except for the dripping part at the bottom) but it is not steampunk.

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It is a very nice looking drawing, but it doesn't fit the theme.

Also, it looks alot like those generic scene hoodies with a stylized skull and a bunch of fake paint drips or whatever.

HeartlineTwist wrote:And the alley-oop for the win?

Trust me, Storm, I want this to be rejected just as much as you do, but I also realize that the shirt.woot staff probably isn't around at all times. Should it have been rejected by now? In an ideal world, yes.

I agree.

However, if you're argument is true, you make Woot out to be very stupid. (Which I have no problem with... especially with this derby as evidence.) The Drakxxx shirt was rejected incredibly quickly after it fell out of the fog. If they hold meetings for fogged entries I'd assume it is because they are reluctant to reject a design that has so much backing. Also, I'd assume they would be aware that the fogged entries fluctuate a lot, and that a design that has just fallen out of the fog might be back in in a couple of hours. So, I think it is safe to assume that they would hesitate and have to confer to remove Drakxxx's shirt because it had been fogged for a good amount of time and just barely slipped out.

Of course, maybe you are right and Woot is even dumber than I give them credit for and rejected it as soon as it wasn't in the "precious fog". But, I have to at least concede a tiny bit of common sense to them and say that they also discussed the rejection of the Drakxxx shirt.

Stormink wrote:I agree.

However, if you're argument is true, you make Woot out to be very stupid. (Which I have no problem with... especially with this derby as evidence.) The Drakxxx shirt was rejected incredibly quickly after it fell out of the fog. If they hold meetings for fogged entries I'd assume it is because they are reluctant to reject a design that has so much backing. Also, I'd assume they would be aware that the fogged entries fluctuate a lot, and that a design that has just fallen out of the fog might be back in in a couple of hours. So, I think it is safe to assume that they would hesitate and have to confer to remove Drakxxx's shirt because it had been fogged for a good amount of time and just barely slipped out.

Of course, maybe you are right and Woot is even dumber than I give them credit for and rejected it as soon as it wasn't in the "precious fog". But, I have to at least concede a tiny bit of common sense to them and say that they also discussed the rejection of the Drakxxx shirt.

Granted, I would have to see a concrete depiction to be sure, but methinks this might be right on the line for what's in and out of the printable area, in which case, the call isn't as simple as "That template isn't a color we offer."

Anyway, that resub is making a meteoric rise, so things should be fine soon...

Maybe instead of favoritism, maybe it's the other way around. Are they waiting to pull the trigger so it can't be resubbed in time to garner its support back WITHOUT the support being alt accounts...hrmm...now THAT would be fun to see.

Yes, my foil hat is quite lovely...but since everyone else seems to be wearing one, I prefer my conspiracy theories to lean more toward insane and unfounded as opposed to plausible and unfounded.

So, the printable area is defined by the seams of the shirt? Is that box on the Woot template just for show then? By the looks of things anyone with a rack is going to have a portion of that butterfly all up in their armpit. I'm wearing a Threadless tee that is printed all the way to the seams and trust me that side seam (as well as what's printed near it) is sitting quite comfortably under my arm.

As evidenced by this set of boobies shown here...



But I guess dudes will be cool...

spanishmel wrote:So, the printable area is defined by the seams of the shirt? Is that box on the Woot template just for show then? By the looks of things anyone with a rack is going to have a portion of that butterfly all up in their armpit. I'm wearing a Threadless tee that is printed all the way to the seams and trust me that side seam (as well as what's printed near it) is sitting quite comfortably under my arm.

As evidenced by this set of boobies shown here...



But I guess dudes will be cool...

The unofficial boundary is 1 inch away from any seams. The template is, in fact, just a guide - you can safely place stuff outside of that bounding box. However, the closer you get to the seams, the more likely a rejection. Ultimately, it's Woot's call.

HeartlineTwist wrote:And the alley-oop for the win?

Trust me, Storm, I want this to be rejected just as much as you do, but I also realize that the shirt.woot staff probably isn't around at all times. Should it have been rejected by now? In an ideal world, yes.

If this gets rejected that would F A I L. I think this is one of the best entries this derby and one of the only ones I'd buy/wear. Of course I do agree that it doesn't exactly fit the theme, but I really don't care all that much. Most of the shirts that DO fit the theme, I wouldn't wear. If the shirt looks good, I'll buy it whether it fits the theme or not. This is a t-shirt site after all.

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Not steampunk. It's just a butterfly with gears painted on it.

masterxuln wrote:If this gets rejected that would F A I L. I think this is one of the best entries this derby and one of the only ones I'd buy/wear. Of course I do agree that it doesn't exactly fit the theme, but I really don't care all that much. Most of the shirts that DO fit the theme, I wouldn't wear. If the shirt looks good, I'll buy it whether it fits the theme or not. This is a t-shirt site after all.

Once again, why even have a theme at all, then? I mean, I have full confidence that all of the artists of the on-topic submissions that you may not find wearable (which doesn't make too much sense) could do fantastic designs that have absolutely nothing to do with the theme. But that's not the point.

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Hmm, weren't a lot of important discoveries in the field of entomology made during the 1800's? I think I remember that. At least I remember hearing about a lot of female entomologists at the time who couldn't publish their work without attributing it to men. So, seems steampunk to me to take that and put a mechanical spin on it.

ZMaiden wrote:Hmm, weren't a lot of important discoveries in the field of entomology made during the 1800's? I think I remember that. At least I remember hearing about a lot of female entomologists at the time who couldn't publish their work without attributing it to men. So, seems steampunk to me to take that and put a mechanical spin on it.

Oh, and I can't believe I forgot to mention butterfly hunting. I don't think I could picture Victorians without thinking about the butterfly houses. It was a pretty big thing.

I still really hope this wins. This design is awesome and I really want to buy this shirt.

HeartlineTwist wrote:Once again, why even have a theme at all, then? I mean, I have full confidence that all of the artists of the on-topic submissions that you may not find wearable (which doesn't make too much sense) could do fantastic designs that have absolutely nothing to do with the theme. But that's not the point.

I prefer to think of the theme as a general guide for all the submissions. It sets the mood of the derby and helps bring variety. Nevertheless, I don't think every design has to EXACTLY fit the theme. As long as it is relatively close and Woot does not reject it, any design should be allowed to win.

Another important thing to mention here is that the Steampunk theme is not concrete and well-defined enough. Even looking at several other Steampunk images for reference, one might not easily understand the whole concept behind it or the correct way to represent it. Limiting the derby to only TRUE Steampunk entries would greatly reduce the amount of contestants and prevent many artists from even participating. And that is, in my opionion, not the point of a Woot derby.

I do understand where you're coming from, though. The designs that you actually love and, I assume, would wear are being beaten by designs which do not fit the theme as well. Of course it would be in your best interest that a strict adherence to the theme was enforced. Most of the people here want their favorite designs to win (I hope), excluding those who vote for/against particular artists, of course. However, that does not mean they should bash all the designs/designers (and their fans) they don't like. Everyone has their tastes, and happy are those whose tastes match those of the majority.

HeartlineTwist wrote:Trust me, Storm, I want this to be rejected just as much as you do, but I also realize that the shirt.woot staff probably isn't around at all times. Should it have been rejected by now? In an ideal world, yes.

I can't even tell you how many times I've tattled on this entry and a number of others this Derby to no avail. I think woot staff isn't just not around at all times, I don't think they're *ever* around. Maybe Joel was the only one who could read tattles, and with him gone, Barbara is totally clueless. That could explain the bizarre "wrong color" rejections and the total lack of off topic rejections.

I've tattled on this shirt repeatedly for being off topic, and also for being too similar to a shirt that woot already printed (Against the Sky). No luck, obviously.

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awesome shirt!

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