Derby #157: Reinterpreting Famous Art Titles

We Can Do It! (Rosie the Riveter)

Off topic, reinterpreting artwork, not title

Rejected because: Off topic, reinterpreting artwork, not title

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astyrfan


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6 colors on Baby Blue. Enjoy!


-Ast

etripoli


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I don't think it'll make it past the censors, but it's clever.

llklocke


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this isn't a great work of art, it's just a pop culture, propaganda image.

jsichel


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llklocke wrote:this isn't a great work of art, it's just a pop culture, propaganda image.


It's a good thing the derby is "Reinterpreting Famous Art Titles" and not "Reinterpreting Great Works of Art," then. I'm betting you call Norman Rockwell an illustrator because he doesn't deserve the status of "painter."

I like it

astyrfan


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llklocke wrote:this isn't a great work of art, it's just a pop culture, propaganda image.


I foresee some dictionary quoting this derby. I personally will not go on a rampage to defend or attack anyone's submission -- and ultimately it will be up to the woot staffers, I imagine.

That said, I think it reasonable to consider this a famous work of art -- which is the requirements of the derby, rather than "great" -- if only because it has endured for so long and been parodied / imitated in several ways.

Thanks for looking, at the very least =)

-Ast

bubsters


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I really like this one a lot.

notpallavi


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llklocke wrote:this isn't a great work of art, it's just a pop culture, propaganda image.


Pop culture images, and certainly propaganda images, make their way into art.

Very clever, astyrfan. The Riveter is one of my favorite images, and this interpretation cracked me up. (And made me de-lurk.)

pi3832


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But does it qualify as parody?

Spiritgreen


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Cool spin on a very famous piece of art. :^)

AdderXYU


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jsichel wrote:It's a good thing the derby is "Reinterpreting Famous Art Titles" and not "Reinterpreting Great Works of Art," then. I'm betting you call Norman Rockwell an illustrator because he doesn't deserve the status of "painter."

I like it


It is, of course, arguable that this isn't reinterpreting the title at all, but instead parodying the work. The title of the piece is "we can do it," not "Rosie the Riveter." This is offtheme.

HeartlineTwist


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AdderXYU wrote:It is, of course, arguable that this isn't reinterpreting the title at all, but instead parodying the work. The title of the piece is "we can do it," not "Rosie the Riveter." This is offtheme.


I think Adder pretty much nails it here.


parvin


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AdderXYU wrote:It is, of course, arguable that this isn't reinterpreting the title at all, but instead parodying the work. The title of the piece is "we can do it," not "Rosie the Riveter." This is offtheme.


Though it is usually referred to as the "We can do it" poster, as your link suggests, that is not its title. Propaganda posters have no titles.

That does not negate your conclusion, of course.

AdderXYU


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parvin wrote:Though it is usually referred to as the "We can do it" poster, as your link suggests, that is not its title. Propaganda posters have no titles.

That does not negate your conclusion, of course.


Well, so long as we're all of the conclusion that this is offtheme, it's all gravy.

enginivity


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AdderXYU wrote:Well, so long as we're all of the conclusion that this is offtheme, it's all gravy.


Actually, many works of art often become known by alternate titles, or subtitles that are not originally part of the title. (by popular association)

If there is a derby that is subject to flexible parameters, this would be the one.

This piece is also based on a well known work of art called "Rosie the Robot," whose title and concept are parodied effectively here.

Love the shirt! =)

lindal33


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I love it, too. It combines two classic images, and anyone who doesn't think the original "Rosie the Riveter" is art, is a snob. :p

enginivity wrote:Actually, many works of art often become known by alternate titles, or subtitles that are not originally part of the title. (by popular association)

If there is a derby that is subject to flexible parameters, this would be the one.

This piece is also based on a well known work of art called "Rosie the Robot," whose title and concept are parodied effectively here.

Love the shirt! =)

sasham62


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The original Rosie the Riveter is art. Whether you consider it good art, bad art or mediocre art is your opinion. Commercial art is still art.

As to the title, I'd be open to either, but if the title is "We Can Do It", then this missed the mark because you didn't reimagine or interpret "We Can Do It" at all. You just replaced the Rosie. If the title is "Rosie the Riveter", then again, you didn't reimagine the title, just replaced the Rosie. If your Rosie the Robot were, perhaps, repairing herself -- and thus, actually riveting -- then you would be on-topic.
Of course, this derby is disappointingly loaded with images that are little more than reproductions. I'm not overly hopeful that the rejectionator will salvage this derby.

albinoapple


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Ugh, can we stop parodying Rose the Riveter? It's been done to death.

kylemittskus


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sasham62 wrote:The original Rosie the Riveter is art. Whether you consider it good art, bad art or mediocre art is your opinion. Commercial art is still art.

As to the title, I'd be open to either, but if the title is "We Can Do It", then this missed the mark because you didn't reimagine or interpret "We Can Do It" at all. You just replaced the Rosie. If the title is "Rosie the Riveter", then again, you didn't reimagine the title, just replaced the Rosie. If your Rosie the Robot were, perhaps, repairing herself -- and thus, actually riveting -- then you would be on-topic.
Of course, this derby is disappointingly loaded with images that are little more than reproductions. I'm not overly hopeful that the rejectionator will salvage this derby.


This.

A substantial number of submissions' designers seem to have completely misunderstood the derby's theme. It seems simple enough. Reinterpret the title of a famous piece of art; not reinterpret the piece of art itself.

"If drinking is bitter, change yourself to wine." -Rainer Maria Rilke

"Champagne is a very kind and friendly thing on a rainy night." -Isak Dinesen

loaba


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I'd buy if you reissue it!

glm9647


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lindal33 wrote:I love it, too. It combines two classic images, and anyone who doesn't think the original "Rosie the Riveter" is art, is a snob. :p


Just so we're clear, "Rosie the Riveter" is a wonderful painting by Norman Rockwell.. of a girl named Rosie holding a riveter. The subject of this parody is the "We can do it!" propaganda poster in which there's no indication the girl's name is Rosie or that she rivets.

That said, I like the concept!

stoocat


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Think it would be better on navy blue t-shirt with colors matching the original propaganda's colors, but I like the idea a lot.

Darquis


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sasham62 wrote:
As to the title, I'd be open to either, but if the title is "We Can Do It", then this missed the mark because you didn't reimagine or interpret "We Can Do It" at all. You just replaced the Rosie. If the title is "Rosie the Riveter", then again, you didn't reimagine the title, just replaced the Rosie. If your Rosie the Robot were, perhaps, repairing herself -- and thus, actually riveting -- then you would be on-topic.
Of course, this derby is disappointingly loaded with images that are little more than reproductions. I'm not overly hopeful that the rejectionator will salvage this derby.


I'm not saying I agree or disagree about this piece meeting the theme, but I will say that I don't think parody and interpretation have to be mutually exclusive.

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